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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On July 02 2012 03:37 wei2coolman wrote: just to add context, highest elo in korea is ~2400. also, if you feed, like go 1-5, you lose 80 elo or something insane like that. wat how does that work? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
i guess they have a threshold that considers you "feeding", and if you reach that threshold at the end of the game, you lose a shit ton of elo. i'm guessing assists are counted into that stat as well. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On July 02 2012 03:45 zulu_nation8 wrote: that's a pretty crazy system, im not sure if it makes any sense voyboy lost 100 elo on stream the other day, it was really funny/sad at the same time | ||
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
That seems really stupid. It totally ruins any sort of team feeling. Why would anyone play support? Doesn't seem right. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 02 2012 03:49 LoCicero wrote: That seems really stupid. It totally ruins any sort of team feeling. Why would anyone play support? Doesn't seem right. well assists are factored in. so as long as you don't play full retard, you should be okay w. supports. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 02 2012 03:49 LoCicero wrote: That seems really stupid. It totally ruins any sort of team feeling. Why would anyone play support? Doesn't seem right. I'm guessing this is also the reason why everyone on the KR server is insanely aggressive suiciding for kills for seemingly no reason. You should be able to win games with a focus on outfarming and outpushing / getting more objectives. Also baiting for your team is very useful. All in all, terrible system. On July 02 2012 03:52 wei2coolman wrote: well assists are factored in. so as long as you don't play full retard, you should be okay w. supports. Some games, you for instance will get camped by their jungler and mid, and that means that you might be going like 0-4-0 or something similiar, however in the meantime the rest of your team is going to be able to outfarm / outplay the opposing team in the other side of the map, etc. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 02 2012 03:53 Shikyo wrote: I'm guessing this is also the reason why everyone on the KR server is insanely aggressive suiciding for kills for seemingly no reason. You should be able to win games with a focus on outfarming and outpushing / getting more objectives. Also baiting for your team is very useful. All in all, terrible system. Some games, you for instance will get camped by their jungler and mid, and that means that you might be going like 0-4-0 or something similiar, however in the meantime the rest of your team is going to be able to outfarm / outplay the opposing team in the other side of the map, etc. i think it's a good system to have, but it's a bad system. Its good because it forces a super aggressive mechanically superior meta, which makes for really fun and interesting games to watch. Just watching scarra's stream for like the past 2 hours, I've seen more man-mode plays, than i've seen on any NA stream over a period of like a days worth of games. I think it makes the game way more interesting to watch. | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
it would do the exact opposite If you get heavily penalized for deaths, you're just gonna sit your ass on a tower or surrounded by wards and be afraid to take risks because of how excessive the penalty for failure is. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:02 Craton wrote: wut it would do the exact opposite If you get heavily penalized for deaths, you're just gonna sit your ass on a tower or surrounded by wards and be afraid to take risks because of how excessive the penalty for failure is. nope. koreans are crazy, they try and get kills no matter what. every single play is extremely aggressive. I'm not quite sure how the math works out for the "feeding" threshold, but the results have been ridiculously aggressive plays. WHOA EDIT: So apparently this only happens to the lvl 30 accounts that riot hands out to pro foreign players (like clg/dig). still, that's ridiculous. | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
On July 02 2012 03:53 Shikyo wrote: I'm guessing this is also the reason why everyone on the KR server is insanely aggressive suiciding for kills for seemingly no reason. You should be able to win games with a focus on outfarming and outpushing / getting more objectives. Also baiting for your team is very useful. All in all, terrible system. Some games, you for instance will get camped by their jungler and mid, and that means that you might be going like 0-4-0 or something similiar, however in the meantime the rest of your team is going to be able to outfarm / outplay the opposing team in the other side of the map, etc. This system is just there for fresh accounts, like Scarra gets a fresh lvl 30 account with everything pretty much unlocked on the Korean server. Now if it turns out that he "bought" the account or similar and that he sucks and shouldnt be at that elo it will do the reverse of what happens when you start solo queueing (getting alot more elo during your first 10 games) to balance the fact out that you obviously are a smurf and should be able to carry your self. You do not get more elo from winning if you carry hard, which makes it so rage enducing to do ranked games on these accounts, but if you are good enough (like scarra) you can play around it by having a pretty darn good winrate (scarra does for instance on the Priscent account have 88W and 33L, and a 79% winrate midlane) | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Also there are situations where you can make a gamble and try to get an early kill to snowball off, increasing your overall win rate over many games, but occasionally snowballing hard against you. If you lose a ton of elo for these, it shifts the odds heavily. Like say in poker you make plays based on the expected value, but that system would shift everything towards low risk low reward plays. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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CaffeineFree-_-
United States712 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
Is TD the next annexation of the scene in the TSM vs CLG arms race? | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
"you nono get jobs" and my old personal favorite from last time "yankee go home" | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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