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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 03:22:32
June 25 2012 03:21 GMT
#3281
On June 25 2012 11:13 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 10:40 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 25 2012 10:32 gtrsrs wrote:
On June 25 2012 10:27 Sufficiency wrote:
I am thinking about making a smurf and only play one champion. I would name my smurf after the said champion (something like "I Only Play Irelia" or something). Who should I play? I only want to play a bruiser on the smurf because I mainly play AP mid and occasionally bottom lane. I want a bruiser who can do well in the general situation (esp. in blind pick); being able to jungle is a plus, but not required. I have the following in mind:

Irelia?
Riven?
Lee Sin?
Fizz? (the only AP bruiser I am willing to consider)
Nidalee?
Shyvana?


of those listed, the only one who i've seen have any success in bot lane against an ad/support lane is lee sin
irelia/fizz/nid all have such sub-par jungles it's not even worth considering them if that's a criteria IMO
shyvana can top/jungle with easy, as can riven, and i've also seen riven have success mid in certain matchups
lee will always have the problem of being lee sin in solo queue - your teammates will rarely take advantage of your extremely strong early game and will probably derp away any lead you give them and lee sin lategame is pretty weak.


I will most likely play the top lane on the smurf (or jungle, if feasible). The whole reason is that I am very used to play ranged champions (even since the DOTA days). Nowadays I feel that I don't really know how to play a melee champion at all.


if you think you will get to play top lane half or even one-quarter of the games you play in blind pick, then i have some real estate to show you
if you are just looking for a champ to exclusively play, regardless of which lane, i'd go with lee or riven


In blind pick, from my experience getting the lane you want depends solely on the quality of your pc. If you can get into the game faster then the others, choose a champion, and write top, you usually get top without many problems. I would say that i can get whatever lane i want about 75% of the time since my pc is, though not top-end, still faster then most. Of course you also need to be able to find the champion you want to play in the list pretty fast. I am doing quite a lot of blindpick at the moment because i want to be able to play all lanes at least halfway decent, and have barely any experience top or mid since i usually just go for whatever noone wanted, which led to me being comparatively better at jungle and support then other stuff.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 25 2012 03:21 GMT
#3282
gold quints and gold yellows for sure
i'd also get MR yellows and armor blues, they come in handy in certain matchups

other than that you have pretty much anything you'd need for 90% of champs in 90% of matchups
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 25 2012 03:28 GMT
#3283
armor reds for support/some jungles. gp/10 quints like said before. Armor quints for some jungles. If you're looking for special rune pages having a flat armor page and flat mr page can always be useful when you get counter picked in a lane you suck at. You can also have a crit page for GP/tryn trolling. That's about all I can think of.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 25 2012 03:30 GMT
#3284
GP10 Quints are standard on all supports
HP Regen Quints for some niche top lane pages
AP/lvl Yellow, and 1 Blue MPen if you want to be like Jiji

Anything more than that is just being indulgent. Like SpellVamp Quints for super abusive runepages you'll only ever use 1% of the time when you have a favourable matchup.

Also on behalf of Riot Marketting I thank you for all your purchases. No prize though. Although, if you're at 999 wins, I can arrange for a Rioter to play with you.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 25 2012 03:34 GMT
#3285
gp10 seals, armor blues, gp5 and armor quints
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 03:43:39
June 25 2012 03:42 GMT
#3286
On June 25 2012 12:30 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
GP10 Quints are standard on all supports
HP Regen Quints for some niche top lane pages
AP/lvl Yellow, and 1 Blue MPen if you want to be like Jiji

Anything more than that is just being indulgent. Like SpellVamp Quints for super abusive runepages you'll only ever use 1% of the time when you have a favourable matchup.

Also on behalf of Riot Marketting I thank you for all your purchases. No prize though. Although, if you're at 999 wins, I can arrange for a Rioter to play with you.

lolol thanks all for the advice; MB I think I'm like 40 wins off or some shit.
If I save up enough IP for Leona before Jayce comes out (with the boost I probably will, also if Riot caves to the 1000 RP whiners...) I'll probably get a bunch of the gp10 runes. I'm still kinda surprised they make a difference though, I mean it's SO much less gold even with a full set than the items.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 03:43:27
June 25 2012 03:43 GMT
#3287
double post, d'oh
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
June 25 2012 03:53 GMT
#3288
hp5, armor, mr quints
armor reds
hybrid pen for fun
cool beans
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
June 25 2012 03:54 GMT
#3289
The vamp Quints just depend on who you play. I like them for vlad and morde as well as Ken.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 25 2012 04:14 GMT
#3290
If riot caves i hope they lock your content for 3 days because im tired of people downplaying how annoying that was
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#3291
OK I thought of a name I like and decided to go with Riven. The only problem now is that I need to earn myself 6300 IP. I probably need to use the 400 RP they give me at lvl 3 for IP boosts and hope for the best.

Also my internet is failing really badly. Had to leave my first game (got an instant warning for it, sigh).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
June 25 2012 04:44 GMT
#3292
On June 25 2012 09:09 PrinceXizor wrote:
Soo... I just spent a good hour working on it... Jungle heimerdinger success:

semi-full clear ( blue > wolves > wraiths > red > wraiths instead of golems) in 4 minutes 5 seconds. no leash. end at full hp ready to gank mid lane.

EDIT: was able to get a full clear w/ golems at 4 minutes also with amp tome + 1 and the AP focus runepage. still high enough to gank too.

Items (equally) successful with:

Regrowth pendant + 1
Cloth + 5
Boots + 3
Ruby Crystal
Amp tome + 1
Doran Ring

Masteries used:

21 (standard AP fare except 2 in minion damage instead of 2 extra in % damage)/9/0

Smite was used

Rune pages tried:

Option 1: flat armor red+ yellow + quint, Flat AP Blue

Option 2: flat armor red + yellow, flat AP blue + quint (you finish clear at 40ish health under option 1, but gain 15 AP)

IF anyone is interested i'll post more in depth method of tackling each camp.

^^

please dont subject any teammates in a real game to this horror, i'm still mad at the guy that jungled heimer on my team in ranked game several weeks ago. it's like saying hey guys, i'm going to jungle but our mid is never going to get a single blue and everytime i gank i'm more likely to die than help you get a kill.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 04:47:50
June 25 2012 04:45 GMT
#3293
On June 25 2012 13:14 Slusher wrote:
If riot caves i hope they lock your content for 3 days because im tired of people downplaying how annoying that was

you know, in those three days, i managed to play a single game that wasn't horribly ruined by DC's or crashes.

so yeah, i'd trade that one game for 1k RP.


As for jungle heimer, That guy was probably trolling and trash. I'd totally give blue to mid after the first that is. in fact i played heimer in the jungle a couple games back i went 1-4-12, with three deaths because i dc'd or crashed mid game. (i dc at a tower, come back tower is dead and so am I). Only DC'd since riot screwed over the universe with the recent patches.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 25 2012 04:51 GMT
#3294
playing with oddone o.o
BW -> League -> CSGO
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
June 25 2012 05:10 GMT
#3295
Does anybody know why TD's streams are promoted streams on TSM's site?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 25 2012 05:11 GMT
#3296
So what ELO should I be at before it's considered "respectable"? Just shoot for Plat?
It's your boy Guzma!
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 25 2012 05:16 GMT
#3297
On June 25 2012 14:11 Requizen wrote:
So what ELO should I be at before it's considered "respectable"? Just shoot for Plat?

2700
GANDHISAUCE
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
June 25 2012 05:19 GMT
#3298
I swear everytime there's an enemy hec he crushes. Is he like, secretly OP? I don't understand his downside. You can ward, but he runs so fast that he can still get there lots of times if you extend at all. He tanks like a beast, has great initiate, etc...
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
June 25 2012 05:23 GMT
#3299
On June 25 2012 14:19 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I swear everytime there's an enemy hec he crushes. Is he like, secretly OP? I don't understand his downside. You can ward, but he runs so fast that he can still get there lots of times if you extend at all. He tanks like a beast, has great initiate, etc...


people had the same problem with rammus. Seriously if you want to gain elo and play jungler, play rammus sejuani hecarim etc. If you aren't on a team that knows how to ward against specific junglers they are really powerful
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
June 25 2012 05:52 GMT
#3300
On June 25 2012 14:23 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 14:19 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I swear everytime there's an enemy hec he crushes. Is he like, secretly OP? I don't understand his downside. You can ward, but he runs so fast that he can still get there lots of times if you extend at all. He tanks like a beast, has great initiate, etc...


people had the same problem with rammus. Seriously if you want to gain elo and play jungler, play rammus sejuani hecarim etc. If you aren't on a team that knows how to ward against specific junglers they are really powerful

no, really just play nautilus til you get to an elo where he is banned
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