On May 07 2012 11:36 Navi wrote:
as olaf
press E
throw q when she commits or need to catch
as riven
play pussy and cry for gank
if get lead max Q and smash
if not play pussy and cry for more ganks

worked good.

overt

United States9006 Posts

May 07 2012 03:22 GMT

#1282

On May 07 2012 09:16 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:

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Neither would tanky dps. Heck I remember one time as Corki opening Cloth+5 solo top and I went "Ah, screw it" and built a HoG too >.>

I remember when TSM did HoG stacking. Literally everyone, including Chaox, built a HoG or two. From memory Chaox only had one, Regi had two, but TRM and OddOne both had like three HoGs and so did Xpecial. Really hard to kill any of them because of the health+armor and it made them all get "fed." Was a crazy smart strategy, kind of curious about who on TSM came up with it or who they stole it from.

Ryuu314

United States12679 Posts

May 07 2012 03:36 GMT

#1283

On May 07 2012 12:22 overt wrote:

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Iunno if they came up with the strat, but if they did, it was prolly Chaox who thought of it up. He's generally the theorycrafter on TSM.

I remember when everyone would build like 2 philos and 2-3 hogs. It was ridiculous.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

May 07 2012 03:36 GMT

#1284

LET EVERYONE LISTEN TO THIS.

I hope, this weekend, I served as an example of when not to requeue. I tilted hard the past couple days, although not without my fair share of being trolled. But fear not. I HAVE FAITH. I will return to you all. I shall restore my honor, my dignity. I will take my laser-y throne back!

*This has been a public service by your resident Viktor enthusiast. All donations and proceeds go to the "I Need to Start Buying Junglers" fund. This message has been paid for by the College of Techmaturgy.*

0123456789

United States3216 Posts

May 07 2012 03:41 GMT

#1285

There's a secret to winning easily in solo queue. As long as you just follow it, you're guaranteed at least 2.2K elo. More actually. There are many examples that this formula for playing works.

Sicariidae

50 Posts

May 07 2012 03:45 GMT

#1286

So, I'm getting more and more convinced that the level 1 jungle game is flawed. Losing your Red Buff when starting Wolves -> Blue can ruin your game and you had no way to do anything about it.

If your laner goes straight to their tower, or waits for an extra health pot, then there is a hole in your jungle not being watched. If the enemy team sees that there is no-one watching the entrance, they can walk in for free, steal the buff and leave.

If someone watches that entrance, I may still lose the buff; however, I can adjust accordingly and go to the enemies Red Buff. Walking to your buff only to realise it is gone can ruin your entire game because that snowballs away from you. It didn't take skill from your opponents to walk in to an uncontested buff and take it, yet they gained a huge advantage from it and lost nothing.

And, this is completely disregarding level 1 invades, which are completely random depending on how the teams picked and, once again, can snowball a game away from a jungler.

nosliw

United States2716 Posts

May 07 2012 03:47 GMT

#1287

oh really? What's the secret?

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

May 07 2012 03:48 GMT

#1288

Mods can see edits, right? So numbers is basically nude in the eyes of neo. All his secrets revealed.

(i saw it)

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

May 07 2012 03:51 GMT

#1289

On May 07 2012 12:41 0123456789 wrote:
There's a secret to winning easily in solo queue. As long as you just follow it, you're guaranteed at least 2.2K elo. More actually. There are many examples that this formula for playing works.

I'm gonna assume this formula doesn't include flipping your shit, saying "fucking it, i'm done" and then clicking "play again", right? ^.^

Alaric

France45622 Posts

May 07 2012 04:04 GMT

#1290

You just pick Mundo.
I should try to make it work with Nautilus too, tho. Dude's so fun to gank with. And he dives into the middle of 5 people, never giving a fuck, a lot better than Blitz. Not as well as Mumu but mummy gives fucks about it. Except when it's played by Teut. Then it just carries 4 sorry TL feeders on its tiny back.

I guess the secret is to play mummy in ranked like Teut plays him in normals, then.

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

May 07 2012 04:14 GMT

#1291

On May 07 2012 12:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:

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I'm gonna assume this formula doesn't include flipping your shit, saying "fucking it, i'm done" and then clicking "play again", right? ^.^

I'd say you're just taking the Soniv strat to a new level: feed games, then win more later.

Juddas

768 Posts

May 07 2012 04:29 GMT

#1292

Ok so I'm about to ask a serious question but I have a feeling you guys are going to think it's a troll....

But anyways, here goes:

If I were to play Sona mid, which I did a lot this weekend, do you think it would be better to go Manamune + T-Force, or AA and Lich Bane? I think both would work just fine, but which do you think is more viable. I have been going the AD route, but maybe the AP route would be better because she has some actual AP ratios, even if they are shit. The main source of damage from either way would still be her power chord with Q + sheen proccing item ofc, but I'm not sure....

What do you guys think?

overt

United States9006 Posts

May 07 2012 04:59 GMT

#1293

I like AD Sona more than AP Sona but that's just me.

On May 07 2012 14:00 seRapH wrote:
I doubt you actually need the manamune, just get trinity.

Probably this. Get Sheen first, finish Trinity, build standard AD stuff. Better than AP Sona if you're gonna go mid Sona imo.

seRapH

United States9776 Posts

May 07 2012 05:00 GMT

#1294

I doubt you actually need the manamune, just get trinity.

deskscaress

United States399 Posts

May 07 2012 05:28 GMT

#1295

The best AD Sona builds I've seen have involved extremely high attack speed rather than proc or damage-based builds. 2-dblades, Wriggle's, 2 Phantom Dancers. No clue how, but it carried soooo hard.

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

May 07 2012 05:44 GMT

#1296

On May 07 2012 13:14 Juicyfruit wrote:

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I'd say you're just taking the Soniv strat to a new level: feed games, then win more later.

More like lose plat then carry so hard they make a new "diamond" level elo bracket.

barbsq

United States5348 Posts

May 07 2012 05:55 GMT

#1297

On May 07 2012 12:48 UniversalSnip wrote:
Mods can see edits, right? So numbers is basically nude in the eyes of neo. All his secrets revealed.

(i saw it)

it's quite liberating really, i've done it once or twice myself

Cloud

Sexico5880 Posts

May 07 2012 05:55 GMT

#1298

I used to think mumu jungle was really bad after hearing saintvicious. But I've been trying him in ranked lately. Gotten games vs shyvana, mundo and lee already and never lost jungle. I think he's pretty strong. Lots of damage and utility in teamfights, great 1v1 esp with red, sick ganks, clears pretty fast and isn't as reliant on blue as people think. Granted those were games at only 1700 elo.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 07 2012 05:57 GMT

#1299

On May 07 2012 14:55 Cloud wrote:
I used to think mumu jungle was really bad after hearing saintvicious. But I've been trying him in ranked lately. Gotten games vs shyvana, mundo and lee already and never lost jungle. I think he's pretty strong. Lots of damage and utility in teamfights, great 1v1 esp with red, sick ganks isn't as reliant on blue as people think. Granted those were games at only 1700 elo.

TOO also hates amumu. I think he has a video titled "Amumu the crybaby" or something.

Navi

5286 Posts

May 07 2012 06:03 GMT

#1300

saint has a habit of assuming that any jungler he can't play sucks
he's been trying to pick up amumu recently though
definitely viable, but the wait inbetween your ults (not being able to force objectives in those times unless fed) is quite long
lategame beast for sure