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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
May 07 2012 12:56 GMT
#1321
On May 07 2012 17:32 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Holy shit lee sin takes so much effort to play properly. My wrist is aching after playing 3 games as lee sin.

Have you tried playing with both hands?
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 07 2012 13:05 GMT
#1322
On May 07 2012 21:56 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 17:32 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Holy shit lee sin takes so much effort to play properly. My wrist is aching after playing 3 games as lee sin.

Have you tried playing with both hands?


One hand is always...occupied
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 07 2012 13:09 GMT
#1323
Aint that the truth.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 07 2012 13:25 GMT
#1324
The most important part of playing Lee Sin is blinding folding yourself/being blind. Be a blind monk = play like a blind monk.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 07 2012 13:30 GMT
#1325
I still have no idea how your wrist could hurt from playing any champion in lol, oh noes guys, that 5 apm too hardddd.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 07 2012 13:40 GMT
#1326
On May 07 2012 22:30 Slayer91 wrote:
I still have no idea how your wrist could hurt from playing any champion in lol, oh noes guys, that 5 apm too hardddd.


to be fair, lee sin has 7 skills so it's more like 10 apm.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 07 2012 13:48 GMT
#1327
Rageblade Nidalee is probably the most apm intensive champion. You have to spam something every 5 seconds which makes her a 12 apm champ.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 07 2012 13:49 GMT
#1328
Any mid, top, or AD by nature requires a minimum of 12 APM because there are 12 creeps every minute to last-hit.

Support on the other hand...
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 07 2012 13:50 GMT
#1329
On May 07 2012 22:49 TheYango wrote:
Any mid, top, or AD by nature requires a minimum of 12 APM because there are 12 creeps every minute to last-hit.

Support on the other hand...


don't forget jungle.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
May 07 2012 13:53 GMT
#1330
On May 07 2012 22:49 TheYango wrote:
Any mid, top, or AD by nature requires a minimum of 12 APM because there are 12 creeps every minute to last-hit.

Support on the other hand...

Not entirely true, you could just a-move and still potentially get all the creeps. 2 apm.
boomer hands
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
May 07 2012 13:54 GMT
#1331
On May 07 2012 22:49 TheYango wrote:
Any mid, top, or AD by nature requires a minimum of 12 APM because there are 12 creeps every minute to last-hit.

Support on the other hand...


Sona begs to differ.
QWEQWEQWEQWEQWEQWEQWEQWEQWEQWEQWE really hard.
"My spoon is too big."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 07 2012 13:57 GMT
#1332
On May 07 2012 22:53 seRapH wrote:
Not entirely true, you could just a-move and still potentially get all the creeps. 2 apm.

By that logic every champion require 0 APM to just sit in fountain AFK.

Realistically you have to actually make the action to lasthit creeps if you expect to play to some level of competency, which I figured was the whole point of this discussion.
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 14:02:30
May 07 2012 13:59 GMT
#1333
Hey guys,

currently trying my hand at commentary. Care to review my test video? I know the video is stuttering a little, but I'm fixing up another computer tomorrow that should be able to handle it. I know that I wasn't "in it" at the beginning, but after a couple minutes my commentary flows much better, I think... Anyways, any tips are more than welcome!

Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 07 2012 14:07 GMT
#1334
Joking aside, late-game AD carries require a sizeable amount of APM.
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
May 07 2012 14:13 GMT
#1335
To play competently you would actually need to either stop or spam move, each counted as one action, between every last hit. That's at least 24 actions. At some various points you also need to harass and dodge and there's another 6 at least. You're up to 1 action every 2 seconds. Game's getting hard.
There is but one truth.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
May 07 2012 14:13 GMT
#1336
My fingers sometimes ache from clicking so much on the mouse. Sorry im no longer as fit to play videogames as you kids.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 07 2012 14:22 GMT
#1337
Have you ever tried playing with out a keyboard by clicking the spells at the bottom to cast them? I was playing as Janna a few weeks ago was doing great something like 1-1-13, and I spilled like a tablespoon of water in my mechanical keyboard. Next thing you know its just spamming random nonsense so I unplugged it and finished the game with just the mouse. The game requires a lot more actions than you think.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
May 07 2012 14:23 GMT
#1338
On May 07 2012 20:08 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 19:09 jadoth wrote:
On May 07 2012 09:08 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On May 07 2012 08:58 sylverfyre wrote:
On May 07 2012 08:45 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On May 07 2012 08:37 zer0das wrote:
Can someone explain how to do double golems without taking much damage as AD/support? Does it even work after they buffed the speed of the golems?

Still possible, but you need to kite a little harder. For Blue side, start with leashing it towards the left side while the AD Carry damages it. The Support generally then breaks the leash by going out of the aggro range and the golems then turn back. Make sure the AD is within aggro range so they don't reset. Then you kite backwards (Marine stutterstep micro!) while the Support damages it as well. Almost the same as before, except you need to kite a little bit more and you take a bit more damage then before.

On May 07 2012 08:31 Sponkz wrote:
Does gp10 runes round up? So if i have 2,6 or higher i get 3 and if i have 2,5 or less i get 2?

Just to add to what the others have said, if you're going Gp10 Yellow, just use 8 of them and use the last slot for an armour seal.

Why? 2.25 gold gen is better than 2, since decimals are all tracked.

Has anyone considered opening like... cloth + wards on a support while running full gp10 runes? My idea being, start out with a full gp5 item out of the gate without having 0 armor? [rather, having low enough armor that the enemy's armor pen nulls it out entirely]

Experimentation time...

The extra armour seal lets you break +10 armour from runes, since for stats which take integer values (such as AD, AP) the client rounds it while still letting you start with +5gp10.


i was under the impression that all stats and calculations took decimals. can you give us a full list of where things are rounded and where the decimals are tracked?


He's mistaken.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=417123#417123

All numbers appear rounded but all decimal places are tracked.

Hm. Distinctly remember taking to someone in QA before about rounded values. Oh well. I guess I'm wrong haha.

On May 07 2012 22:59 Celial wrote:
Care to review my test video? [...]

http://youtu.be/Xadtyn06wp8

Watched about 10-15 min of it, in 3 min chunks spread across the video. The biggest piece of advice I can give is that when you're commentating, have a goal in mind. Why are you commentating? What are you trying to communicate? Right now it seems very off-the-cuff, where you're just describing what you saw on screen. Unless the view is new to the game, they can likely figure out most of the information themselves.

Commentary is supposed to add value to the game. So decide on what kind of value you want to add, who your target audience is, and work from there. Are you trying to add insight and explain what is going on and why players make certain decisions and what they could do better? Are you just trying to make watching a game entertaining and interesting? Are you just trying to explain the game to new players? Etc.

On May 07 2012 23:13 Cloud wrote:
My fingers sometimes ache from clicking so much on the mouse. Sorry im no longer as fit to play videogames as you kids.

I know the feeling. I can't play Osu for extended periods of time before my hands start to ache. =(
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 14:48:31
May 07 2012 14:45 GMT
#1339
On May 07 2012 23:13 Cloud wrote:
My fingers sometimes ache from clicking so much on the mouse. Sorry im no longer as fit to play videogames as you kids.


my mouse hand aches after about 2 hours because i broke it twice and never had it properly treated and played frisbee before it was fully healed.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 07 2012 14:55 GMT
#1340
On May 07 2012 23:23 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 23:13 Cloud wrote:
My fingers sometimes ache from clicking so much on the mouse. Sorry im no longer as fit to play videogames as you kids.

I know the feeling. I can't play Osu for extended periods of time before my hands start to ache. =(

Assuming you play maps close to 5 stars, that's to be expected. But LoL is nowhere close to Osu! in terms of stress on your hands...
Luckily Osu! encourages you to take short breaks frequently.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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