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On April 25 2012 03:23 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 03:00 bmn wrote:
Do you guys play a new champ a bunch of times in normal/unranked before you feel you can play close to your current elo?
Obviously you keep improving, but when do you reach a decent level before you "figured out" the basics of the champ and do well? 5 games? 15? 50?
I need to cut down my novelty-seeking behavior, I think I play new champions long before I ever get good at any of the ones I have. Kayle/Jax top too tempting to try anyway :[ I always play a new champ at least once in normal before go into ranked unless its a support. If so, I will just ask people what skill to max first and go with gp5 items. As TD said, you can will by knowledge and not go full retard. I once play a Brand in ranked after just one game normal and go godlike with him, lol. But some champs are more difficult to learn than others, esp if you plan to go top since there is no one to wipe your ass up there you really need to understand your champ in order to even stay in lane.
Normals would be great, if people didn't just derp the whole time. If you want to practice jungle someone instalocks shaco then proceeds to not gank, if you want to practice top, no one jungles and they push the lane while killing your CS (and not getting any themselves), etc.
Pretty much only good for practicing Mid and sometimes jungle, if at all.
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Man, don't just randomly queue up and expect that you'll get a team full of people who're willing to work with you to do whatever. Queue with friends! When you're directly communicating with and working with 4/5 or 5/5 of the members on your team you tend to get to play the role you want to try out more often than not, assuming you're not super-pushy and a huge jerk about it.
But yeah, I can't remember the last time I played a normal with less than three other people.
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On April 25 2012 04:19 Two_DoWn wrote:
Isnt complaining that the Tribunal bans people unfairly one of the banned topics on this subforum?
And if it isnt, I move for its inclusion to that list.
I'm not saying it's unfair I just dislike people :D.
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New topic I want to discuss. Bot lane comps. Especially traditional support + ad comps
Been playing a lot of semi-kill lanes w/ Ali+vayne combo. One of the strongest things about vayne is her ability to make plays in lane, simply due to her condemn. Also BC+vayne combo is extremely deadly, especially if you ban out Soraka.
I need to pick up Leona, because she offers a lot in a kill lane, but one of the problem with pure offense kill lanes is that if you aren't stomping you become completely useless, at least w/ alistar, you can still heal your AD when behind.
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On April 25 2012 05:00 wei2coolman wrote:
New topic I want to discuss. Bot lane comps. Especially traditional support + ad comps
Been playing a lot of semi-kill lanes w/ Ali+vayne combo. One of the strongest things about vayne is her ability to make plays in lane, simply due to her condemn. Also BC+vayne combo is extremely deadly, especially if you ban out Soraka.
I need to pick up Leona, because she offers a lot in a kill lane, but one of the problem with pure offense kill lanes is that if you aren't stomping you become completely useless, at least w/ alistar, you can still heal your AD when behind.
I'd say leona stuns are a pretty big threat to let your ad atleast farm.
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Leona retains presence for herself when behind unless her level is terribly behind her passive and kit is still amazing for team fights.
But she is a non factor as far as supporting an ad too far behind to have kill potential
but that much is obvious so mabye I don't get the question?
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On April 25 2012 05:00 wei2coolman wrote:
New topic I want to discuss. Bot lane comps. Especially traditional support + ad comps
Been playing a lot of semi-kill lanes w/ Ali+vayne combo. One of the strongest things about vayne is her ability to make plays in lane, simply due to her condemn. Also BC+vayne combo is extremely deadly, especially if you ban out Soraka.
I need to pick up Leona, because she offers a lot in a kill lane, but one of the problem with pure offense kill lanes is that if you aren't stomping you become completely useless, at least w/ alistar, you can still heal your AD when behind.
Ali+Vayne so fun~ 5 seconds of permastun hue. Don't like BC though but whatever works for you. Leona isn't completely useless since 1200 range stun and all that peel is still good, although it is true Ali Ult means he's not as level dependent while Leona is.
Corki+Leona is another kill lane since Gattling procs Leona's passive. Graves+Janna/Ali/Leona works against any really squishy AD like Vayne or Ashe. If you Q them for 120-150 at lvl 1, you pretty much insta-win lane. Then if they mess up you CC them and kill them. Trist still has her old burst too. If they're single target only 550 range champions and your support is on the ball, Cait headshots/Urgot EQQQQ while they're under tower makes laning hell for them.
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On April 25 2012 04:42 wussleeQ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 04:19 Two_DoWn wrote:
Isnt complaining that the Tribunal bans people unfairly one of the banned topics on this subforum?
And if it isnt, I move for its inclusion to that list. I'm not saying it's unfair I just dislike people :D.
People suck. 's how the world is.
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United States37500 Posts
Hallo
Need some quick feedback from everyone.
What are some topics that shouldn't be broached on our subforum anymore? It's either been discussed to death or simply isn't productive.
elo hell, GP10, Tribunal, getting banned
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On April 25 2012 05:09 Slusher wrote:
Leona retains presence for herself when behind unless her level is terribly behind her passive and kit is still amazing for team fights.
But she is a non factor as far as supporting an ad too far behind to have kill potential
but that much is obvious so mabye I don't get the question?
Well, sometimes when making a play can go terribly wrong, such as a jungler ganking right as we try and go for a kill, and end up giving 2 kills, and now you're behind in lane, and you can't exactly do much for a while.
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On April 25 2012 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hallo
Need some quick feedback from everyone.
What are some topics that shouldn't be broached on our subforum anymore? It's either been discussed to death or simply isn't productive.
elo hell, GP10, Tribunal, getting banned
GP10 discussions are like tradition, they should stay imoimo.
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On April 25 2012 05:12 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hallo
Need some quick feedback from everyone.
What are some topics that shouldn't be broached on our subforum anymore? It's either been discussed to death or simply isn't productive.
elo hell, GP10, Tribunal, getting banned GP10 discussions are like tradition, they should stay imoimo.
this wouldn't be TL LOL thread w/o gp10 discussion.
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On April 25 2012 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hallo
Need some quick feedback from everyone.
What are some topics that shouldn't be broached on our subforum anymore? It's either been discussed to death or simply isn't productive.
elo hell, GP10, Tribunal, getting banned
I think maybe a thread where "TL" states our opinions on certain topics and why we don't want them discussed. Especially gp10, because there's a mixed opinion about it (elo hell too, but that's another story)
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Is Olaf some kind of a counter, or hard lane for Shen? I went up against one, expecting to have free harass on him using dagger to stay out of harm's way, and try to zone him.
Turns out I'm overestimating the dagger's damage, and isn't nearly enough to get him out. On the other hand, the range differential between the dagger and reckless swing is so tiny that I get to eat it almost every time (can you anim' cancel the dagger btw? It's got a lot of frames post-cast), and after some levels my level 1 shield isn't enough to cover it. I fell behind a bit in cs, but that had probably more to do with how aggressive he was, and the triple gank from Lee early on (good thing, I was purple side, so he only came at level 3).
I'd probably have been zoned had I not taken MS quints and picked fast tabis after HoG.
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United States37500 Posts
On April 25 2012 05:12 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hallo
Need some quick feedback from everyone.
What are some topics that shouldn't be broached on our subforum anymore? It's either been discussed to death or simply isn't productive.
elo hell, GP10, Tribunal, getting banned GP10 discussions are like tradition, they should stay imoimo.
You serious here? I figure I can sift through some of the old GDs and link all the relevant point of views and pro/con about GP10s. It's not an evolving topic. I feel like we've discussed all there needs to be ever said when it comes to GP10s...
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On April 25 2012 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hallo
Need some quick feedback from everyone.
What are some topics that shouldn't be broached on our subforum anymore? It's either been discussed to death or simply isn't productive.
elo hell, GP10, Tribunal, getting banned
AD vs. ArPen on botlane AD.
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On April 25 2012 05:14 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hallo
Need some quick feedback from everyone.
What are some topics that shouldn't be broached on our subforum anymore? It's either been discussed to death or simply isn't productive.
elo hell, GP10, Tribunal, getting banned I think maybe a thread where "TL" states our opinions on certain topics and why we don't want them discussed. Especially gp10, because there's a mixed opinion about it (elo hell too, but that's another story)
I'll give thorough explanations as to why "these" topics shouldn't be touched. I simply need a general list for now.
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United States47024 Posts
AD vs. ArPen
"What is a tank?"
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does anyone know why holding control makes LoL ingore move commands?
i like to use ctrl as a cast modifier, but i cant because i would stop moving constantly.
is it a bug? can i report this to riot?
i really want to use my ctrl key for something in LoL, its a button i can access without moving my fingers.
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On April 25 2012 05:15 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:12 JackDino wrote:On April 25 2012 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hallo
Need some quick feedback from everyone.
What are some topics that shouldn't be broached on our subforum anymore? It's either been discussed to death or simply isn't productive.
elo hell, GP10, Tribunal, getting banned GP10 discussions are like tradition, they should stay imoimo. You serious here? I figure I can sift through some of the old GDs and link all the relevant point of views and pro/con about GP10s. It's not an evolving topic. I feel like we've discussed all there needs to be ever said when it comes to GP10s...
I think he was joking. But it's still a kind of tradition for us all to gather around the TL LoL campfire to discuss about these nifty little topics of old. 
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