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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On April 23 2012 18:07 Schnake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 18:03 JackDino wrote:On April 23 2012 17:46 iCanada wrote:On April 23 2012 17:39 gtrsrs wrote:
yo, i don't think you're understanding some basic teamfight principles here
every CC and nuke that the enemy team uses on you, is a CC/nuke that the enemy team is not using on your allies
blitz hook + pop-up + silence most likely, that right there is a good 3-5 seconds of chain-cc that would cripple a carry. it's not enough to kill you though, so if you're dying it's because they're using more CC and skills on you. that's a good thing. especially on a champ that gets so much free defense. you should be intentionally walking into every single hook as cho'gath. if blitz is anywhere near the enemy carry, you get a free reposition to use feast on him too, double points! Yup, I understand that, and it is all fine and dandy... Thing is people in soloQ are ridiculous and will just run and say something like "Wow, Cho getting caught like an idiot... Sick throws." Forever 1500 qq. If only I spent more time getting better and less time on TL... Just tell your team that if you get hooked they should go balls out crazy on the enemy team. I guess I will try that the next time I play Cho because at low elo, it seems you get hooked, bursted down and then it is 4v5 with your team complaining.
It still is your fault.. position better. Stay behind creeps.. All you have to do is tank and deny them from getting close?
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On April 23 2012 18:09 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 18:07 Schnake wrote:On April 23 2012 18:03 JackDino wrote:On April 23 2012 17:46 iCanada wrote:On April 23 2012 17:39 gtrsrs wrote:
yo, i don't think you're understanding some basic teamfight principles here
every CC and nuke that the enemy team uses on you, is a CC/nuke that the enemy team is not using on your allies
blitz hook + pop-up + silence most likely, that right there is a good 3-5 seconds of chain-cc that would cripple a carry. it's not enough to kill you though, so if you're dying it's because they're using more CC and skills on you. that's a good thing. especially on a champ that gets so much free defense. you should be intentionally walking into every single hook as cho'gath. if blitz is anywhere near the enemy carry, you get a free reposition to use feast on him too, double points! Yup, I understand that, and it is all fine and dandy... Thing is people in soloQ are ridiculous and will just run and say something like "Wow, Cho getting caught like an idiot... Sick throws." Forever 1500 qq. If only I spent more time getting better and less time on TL... Just tell your team that if you get hooked they should go balls out crazy on the enemy team. I guess I will try that the next time I play Cho because at low elo, it seems you get hooked, bursted down and then it is 4v5 with your team complaining. It still is your fault.. position better. Stay behind creeps.. All you have to do is tank and deny them from getting close?
Pfft, you've never played a big cho if you think it's easy to hide behind creeps. Especially considering there aren't always creeps nearby. It's fine if you get hooked tho, everyone will focus you because lol hooked so your team can just roll over them.
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On April 23 2012 18:16 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 18:09 Beyonder wrote:On April 23 2012 18:07 Schnake wrote:On April 23 2012 18:03 JackDino wrote:On April 23 2012 17:46 iCanada wrote:On April 23 2012 17:39 gtrsrs wrote:
yo, i don't think you're understanding some basic teamfight principles here
every CC and nuke that the enemy team uses on you, is a CC/nuke that the enemy team is not using on your allies
blitz hook + pop-up + silence most likely, that right there is a good 3-5 seconds of chain-cc that would cripple a carry. it's not enough to kill you though, so if you're dying it's because they're using more CC and skills on you. that's a good thing. especially on a champ that gets so much free defense. you should be intentionally walking into every single hook as cho'gath. if blitz is anywhere near the enemy carry, you get a free reposition to use feast on him too, double points! Yup, I understand that, and it is all fine and dandy... Thing is people in soloQ are ridiculous and will just run and say something like "Wow, Cho getting caught like an idiot... Sick throws." Forever 1500 qq. If only I spent more time getting better and less time on TL... Just tell your team that if you get hooked they should go balls out crazy on the enemy team. I guess I will try that the next time I play Cho because at low elo, it seems you get hooked, bursted down and then it is 4v5 with your team complaining. It still is your fault.. position better. Stay behind creeps.. All you have to do is tank and deny them from getting close? Pfft, you've never played a big cho if you think it's easy to hide behind creeps. Especially considering there aren't always creeps nearby. It's fine if you get hooked tho, everyone will focus you because lol hooked so your team can just roll over them.
Getting hooked (and eating other cc) is pretty much impossible to avoid as 6 stack Cho. However, if you and your team is in position, getting hooked is not a bad thing, it's just a gapcloser for you. If you or your team isn't in position and ready to fight, learn to not stand anywhere close to a blitz (or in any position where not being able to dodge a skillshot would mean losing a fight for your team).
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On April 23 2012 18:09 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 18:07 Schnake wrote:On April 23 2012 18:03 JackDino wrote:On April 23 2012 17:46 iCanada wrote:On April 23 2012 17:39 gtrsrs wrote:
yo, i don't think you're understanding some basic teamfight principles here
every CC and nuke that the enemy team uses on you, is a CC/nuke that the enemy team is not using on your allies
blitz hook + pop-up + silence most likely, that right there is a good 3-5 seconds of chain-cc that would cripple a carry. it's not enough to kill you though, so if you're dying it's because they're using more CC and skills on you. that's a good thing. especially on a champ that gets so much free defense. you should be intentionally walking into every single hook as cho'gath. if blitz is anywhere near the enemy carry, you get a free reposition to use feast on him too, double points! Yup, I understand that, and it is all fine and dandy... Thing is people in soloQ are ridiculous and will just run and say something like "Wow, Cho getting caught like an idiot... Sick throws." Forever 1500 qq. If only I spent more time getting better and less time on TL... Just tell your team that if you get hooked they should go balls out crazy on the enemy team. I guess I will try that the next time I play Cho because at low elo, it seems you get hooked, bursted down and then it is 4v5 with your team complaining. It still is your fault.. position better. Stay behind creeps.. All you have to do is tank and deny them from getting close?
If you want to hook Cho, it gonna happen.
You could hit a cho with six stacks with a skill shot by closing your eyes and rotating your mouse around your champ at random and clicking. His hitbox like the size of the whole entire lane.
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On April 23 2012 18:20 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 18:09 Beyonder wrote:On April 23 2012 18:07 Schnake wrote:On April 23 2012 18:03 JackDino wrote:On April 23 2012 17:46 iCanada wrote:On April 23 2012 17:39 gtrsrs wrote:
yo, i don't think you're understanding some basic teamfight principles here
every CC and nuke that the enemy team uses on you, is a CC/nuke that the enemy team is not using on your allies
blitz hook + pop-up + silence most likely, that right there is a good 3-5 seconds of chain-cc that would cripple a carry. it's not enough to kill you though, so if you're dying it's because they're using more CC and skills on you. that's a good thing. especially on a champ that gets so much free defense. you should be intentionally walking into every single hook as cho'gath. if blitz is anywhere near the enemy carry, you get a free reposition to use feast on him too, double points! Yup, I understand that, and it is all fine and dandy... Thing is people in soloQ are ridiculous and will just run and say something like "Wow, Cho getting caught like an idiot... Sick throws." Forever 1500 qq. If only I spent more time getting better and less time on TL... Just tell your team that if you get hooked they should go balls out crazy on the enemy team. I guess I will try that the next time I play Cho because at low elo, it seems you get hooked, bursted down and then it is 4v5 with your team complaining. It still is your fault.. position better. Stay behind creeps.. All you have to do is tank and deny them from getting close? If you want to hook Cho, it gonna happen. You could hit a cho with six stacks with a skill shot by closing your eyes and rotating your mouse around your champ at random and clicking. His hitbox like the size of the whole entire lane.
Makes me wonder why no one plays cho in a protect the kog/carry comp, he can literally block everything for kog and kog can always hide inside cho.
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How viable is support kayle now?
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SV loses game on korean ladder. Loses 87 elo.
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yeah matchmaking on KR seems really broken atm, got matched against a team of 1800s last game in normal. I am lvl 15
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On April 23 2012 18:09 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 18:07 Schnake wrote:On April 23 2012 18:03 JackDino wrote:On April 23 2012 17:46 iCanada wrote:On April 23 2012 17:39 gtrsrs wrote:
yo, i don't think you're understanding some basic teamfight principles here
every CC and nuke that the enemy team uses on you, is a CC/nuke that the enemy team is not using on your allies
blitz hook + pop-up + silence most likely, that right there is a good 3-5 seconds of chain-cc that would cripple a carry. it's not enough to kill you though, so if you're dying it's because they're using more CC and skills on you. that's a good thing. especially on a champ that gets so much free defense. you should be intentionally walking into every single hook as cho'gath. if blitz is anywhere near the enemy carry, you get a free reposition to use feast on him too, double points! Yup, I understand that, and it is all fine and dandy... Thing is people in soloQ are ridiculous and will just run and say something like "Wow, Cho getting caught like an idiot... Sick throws." Forever 1500 qq. If only I spent more time getting better and less time on TL... Just tell your team that if you get hooked they should go balls out crazy on the enemy team. I guess I will try that the next time I play Cho because at low elo, it seems you get hooked, bursted down and then it is 4v5 with your team complaining. It still is your fault.. position better. Stay behind creeps.. All you have to do is tank and deny them from getting close?
No.. you're the tank. If the enemy team blows cooldowns on you, your team needs to initiate. Also pulling cho is stupid. Either waste cc on him... bad. Or don't and he gets to silence and knock-up your entire team... also bad. In these situations cho is the creep that you don't want to pull and enemy team hides behind him.
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I can totally relate to how frustrating it is if you're playing tank Cho, get pulled and nuked into oblivion with all of their ults and your team just sits back and watches.
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SV's stream is pretty hilarious right now.
"Maokai is bot again... with oracles. This is his third oracles this game. But jokes on him... we don't even buy wards!"
How I feel every solo queue game where I buy oracles as a jungler.
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Westrice pretty guud Lee Sin.
Sick move, tag fid with Q over wall, fly over wall with Q the same moment fid ults over wall, dodging the ult completely. >< Then he proceeds to 1v2 fid and nautilus down.
http://www.own3d.tv/live/15088/Westrice
Omg, and now he kicks fid away, follows with Q to him just the moment galio flash ulted to where he was, dodging another ult and killing fid :D lucky guy
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To Xevious and Gondlem, I like them random livestream tidbits =p
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This AP Mumu on Alex's stream... TONS OF DAMAGE
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100% ap ratio aoe stun
its like if brands ult stunned you, and did more damage. ap mumu legit
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I knew Mumu with AP is quite powerful (Teut hard carried in normals), but going full AP and laning mid... dat burst.
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Why doesn't clg stream scrims anymore?
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:14 Bwaaaa wrote:
Why doesn't clg stream scrims anymore?
because there are playing on wednesday? It is not very clever to broadcast your scrims right before you play
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So, unconventional but workable bot lanes.
Alistar + Heimerdinger
Works well against ADs that don't outrange your turrets. Needs to maintain brush control so cow can threaten people away from turrets. Really scrubs people around 1500 ELO - one misstep or bad engage from them, and they're cc'd in heimerturret range for infinity time. Also pushes bot tower super hard. This can be good or bad.
Team considerations: jungler that doesn't need to gank bot. At least one, probably two of top, mid, and jungle need to be a significant source of physical damage. Good poke and cc.
Enemy team considerations: ADs that outrange the turrets suck. Ashe, Cait, Kog will be no fun to lane against. Soraka can spam starcall on the turrets, which is annoying. Standard anti-heimer tech is annoying (strong aoe initiation, better poke).
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I had that lane as a solo Lux a bit before I hit 30. Actually got a round of kills, but tower went down at 4:30.
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