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On April 22 2012 05:58 MooMooMugi wrote: You can condemn people though it because its not a solid obstacle, its considered a light obstacle therefore condemn goes through, not stun against it No, you can condemn people through it because they haven't figured out how to code terrain interactions to work with temporary terrain.
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How the hell do you deal with Ali/Blitz bottom with a jungler that doesn't gank?
I played Vayne and my friend played Taric, we tried to play super safe, but one hook meant insta death(they were running exh/ignite). We had a Shyv who refused to gank bottom at all and bitched at us the rest of the game. We didn't know they were running it until after we had picked, because they picked last. Are there any suggested supports that can deal with the lane, or strategy for it?
I was thinking of picking Tristana, but changed my mind last second :/
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On April 22 2012 06:09 Mondeezy wrote: How the hell do you deal with Ali/Blitz bottom with a jungler that doesn't gank?
I played Vayne and my friend played Taric, we tried to play super safe, but one hook meant insta death(they were running exh/ignite). We had a Shyv who refused to gank bottom at all and bitched at us the rest of the game. We didn't know they were running it until after we had picked, because they picked last. Are there any suggested supports that can deal with the lane, or strategy for it?
I was thinking of picking Tristana, but changed my mind last second :/
Wards shut down that lane pretty easily. As long as you see them, they should never be able to catch you off guard. This should happen from the beginning, and should not be a reactive thing. It's not really the jungler's fault if you don't ward properly since the beginning.
Also on a side note, as long as you play defensively, you should be able to out damage them late game.
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Ward the brush, don't get hooked. You die to any blitz lane if you eat hooks, alistar doesn't make that anymore special.
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On April 22 2012 06:09 Mondeezy wrote: How the hell do you deal with Ali/Blitz bottom with a jungler that doesn't gank?
I played Vayne and my friend played Taric, we tried to play super safe, but one hook meant insta death(they were running exh/ignite). We had a Shyv who refused to gank bottom at all and bitched at us the rest of the game. We didn't know they were running it until after we had picked, because they picked last. Are there any suggested supports that can deal with the lane, or strategy for it?
I was thinking of picking Tristana, but changed my mind last second :/
If the hooks are your problem, don't get grabbed? It's a skillshot, tumble out of it. Get brush control with wards and just get the cs you can get. They obviously are trying to kill you, but Vayne scales 1000 times harder than both of them combined.
Support wise, take Janna. One good tornado will allow you to get out of the cc chain and the shield helps too. And if both fail she still has ult and dat passive.
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Just play safe to lvl3 with Taric going Stun/Aura/Aura then start killing the Alistar aggressively is what I'd try.
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Just pick corki and push the lane, can't grab you with huge minion wave, if they try to run past minions and grab you it's easier to avoid the hook. Just gotta be careful you dont get hit by alistar. Corki good at pushing+escape.
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Interesting comp for Luna Gaming in Game 2 of the 4PL finals. Jungle Jax, top Twitch, mid Viktor, bottom Taric/Urgot.
Edit: Nope. Viktor top, Urgot mid, Twitch bot.
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On April 22 2012 06:33 Jaksiel wrote: Interesting comp for Luna Gaming in Game 2 of the 4PL finals. Jungle Jax, top Twitch, mid Viktor, bottom Taric/Urgot.
Edit: Nope. Viktor top, Urgot mid, Twitch bot. Wish it was doing better
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xerath is a really good choice vs twitch, and also good to mid against urgot imo, good pick.
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Wth I don't understand how TOO has 3.5k health on noc with that build.
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T_D Jungle fortune cookie of the day:
True Jungle mastery is being able to play a ganking jungle as a farmer and a farming jungle as a ganker.
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Link please.
EDIT: Guess I missed it, dang.
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On April 22 2012 06:09 Mondeezy wrote: How the hell do you deal with Ali/Blitz bottom with a jungler that doesn't gank?
I played Vayne and my friend played Taric, we tried to play super safe, but one hook meant insta death(they were running exh/ignite). We had a Shyv who refused to gank bottom at all and bitched at us the rest of the game. We didn't know they were running it until after we had picked, because they picked last. Are there any suggested supports that can deal with the lane, or strategy for it?
I was thinking of picking Tristana, but changed my mind last second :/
yeah that was your fault... you just need to ward and give up cs when you have to. It's not the jungler's fault you fed your lane, and it's not his job to fix your bad play. It's not gonna matter if he ganks if you keep failing after he gives you kills because you don't realize you're doing shit wrong.
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Freeze minions in front of tower, keep lane brush warded as much as possible. Pink gank paths to allow the jungler to do something. Always stand out of range / behind minions.
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How much Burst can Blitz-Ali do? They are both tanky/cc characters. I feel like you have ranged to harass any last hits they go for and your support should have enough cc to save one grab. If you ward river and stay riverside of minions, should not be hard to outfarm them pretty hard while harassing and staying alive.
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On April 22 2012 09:22 cLutZ wrote: How much Burst can Blitz-Ali do? They are both tanky/cc characters. I feel like you have ranged to harass any last hits they go for and your support should have enough cc to save one grab. If you ward river and stay riverside of minions, should not be hard to outfarm them pretty hard while harassing and staying alive. enough to 100 to 0 pretty much anyone at level 2 with ignite
at most points in the lane a pull = a kill, you can basically deny people with fear of getting hooked
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Kill lanes are always like that, you have to play super safe and to try farm as much as you can, hoping your jungler ganks for you. When you go into the mid game you scale much better than them and they fall off drastically. They NEED kills to snowball or theyre basically useless
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Yeah pretty much don't get grabbed and miss cs if you have to. You win hard lategame.
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