EPT[Patch 1.0.0.138: Hecarim] General Discussion - Page 48
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:19 HazMat wrote: zz you guys are being too cruel to hotshot. He does make dumb plays and has a lot of heroes he's terrible with but overall he is a good top laner and usually does well. 0-3 top is almost impossible to comeback from. Look at IPL, whenever Voy got camped Dig would lose, same with CLG. I think if he does better top this game the ping really won't be a huge problem. Also, I wouldn't consider Dig #1 team with how they (voyboy) have been playing recently. They almost lost to LgN... I've read this "camping" thing a lot lately in LoL. Now I come from dota where dying in lane doesn't mean you lose the game so what exactly does this mean. Can the other lanes not win if top is losing to even out or does this not work in LoL? | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
EDIT: Hazmat, I need confirmation. Your signature is mocking, correct? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
edit: ^ not at all | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:27 ManyCookies wrote: Where are these games happening? I don't see any tourney or player streams up. EDIT: Hazmat, I need confirmation. Your signature is mocking, correct? I highly doubt it's mocking <33333<33<33<33 XDDXD edit: here's the stream btw http://www.justin.tv/national_esl1/popout | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:25 Numy wrote: I've read this "camping" thing a lot lately in LoL. Now I come from dota where dying in lane doesn't mean you lose the game so what exactly does this mean. Can the other lanes not win if top is losing to even out or does this not work in LoL? Well the thing is, in LoL, once someone gets a lead they tend to keep the lead. In DotA, you can turn things around a lot easier because of the gold loss mechanic. If someone is getting really farmed/fed, if you gank them they lose their lead a lot harder than in LoL. Not to mention exp gain for killing heroes is much higher in DotA than LoL. So there's more of a chance to equalize/make a comeback. Ironically, the lack of a gold loss on death mechanic makes games snowball harder. Camping is basically when the jungler just sits on a lane and constantly nonstop ganks it. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:29 MooMooMugi wrote: Camping is when a jungler ganks/pressures a single lane for a long period of time to put the laner behind and more behind each time, even denying them cs at early levels is a successful camp Yea I wasn't questioning what camping was, merely why losing top can transition into losing game. Like in my mind if the enemy jungler is focusing one lane your jungler has freedom of ganking 2 lanes and forcing wins in those two lanes so you trading 2 for 1. Obviously this isn't the case in LoL. It's just such a strange concept to me that losing a lane can lose you the game. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:27 ManyCookies wrote: Where are these games happening? I don't see any tourney or player streams up. EDIT: Hazmat, I need confirmation. Your signature is mocking, correct? http://www.twitch.tv/national_esl1 | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:28 Numy wrote: I see so there's no point your team forcing a win mid lane if you losing top lane instead of forcing both lanes even. It's also much easier to gank top since it's a longer lane and harder to ward. It's why I hate top laning, so fucking easy to get ganked if you push just a little bit which naturally happens if you start harassing really well. | ||
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:31 LoCicero wrote: When does Season 3 start? Who am I kidding, I don't have any time anymore =(. Sad days. Stop playing Tribes noob. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
I'm not playing Tribes. I'm not playing anything anymore =(. Unless you consider Excel and Fluent playing. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:30 Numy wrote: Yea I wasn't questioning what camping was, merely why losing top can transition into losing game. Like in my mind if the enemy jungler is focusing one lane your jungler has freedom of ganking 2 lanes and forcing wins in those two lanes so you trading 2 for 1. Obviously this isn't the case in LoL. It's just such a strange concept to me that losing a lane can lose you the game. Losing a lane doesn't mean you lost the game. But the scene is still pretty young and not many teams can stage comebacks if a lane loses too hard. Three kills in lane is a pretty big deal because it means you're probably going to start getting zoned meaning you can't farm. So while the opposing team now has someone that's way stronger than anyone else your team has someone that's practically dead weight. Top lane sees this a lot because most top laners are bruisers who need to build damage and tank items. If you lose lane too hard you'll probably only be able to build one. Meaning the opposing top lane has his damage and tank item while you can only afford one of the two meaning your team has someone that can only tank or that can only deal damage. | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
before at least audio wasn't cutting out, now it's both | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:40 Craton wrote: rambo was lagging even worse than kara during the time he was in game before at least audio wasn't cutting out, now it's both It seemed like this to me too. Is it a twitch tv issue or something with the streamers? Pretty ridiculous. On a separate note, how did CLG manage to get Shen, Nocturne, AND TF? Looking at it more, they have soroka as well. I can't imagine this being an easy game for CRS. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
after that game europe was more or less considered better competitively than NA | ||
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