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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 30 2012 17:53 GMT
#2821
If you get lag right click the vid, set local storage to 10mb ,reload browser. If that doesn't help use the report button in the vid

The mod in xpecial's stream chat said that
:)
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 17:56:20
April 30 2012 17:55 GMT
#2822
On May 01 2012 02:49 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
What do you guys think about Lifesteal/armor quints on weak AD laners such as Kog Maw? It seems to make that, if you just want to farm, something that provides sustain>early game damage.


You'd much rather have the extra AD so that if they try to deny you, you can trade back better. Lifesteal quints are terrible if you're playing a weaker laner. Armor quints also not as good as AD because it increases the amount of effort it takes to last-hit and therefore makes it easier to harass you back.

You can play around with the glyphs for AD bot lane since the standard MR stuff isn't all that vital in lane unless you're up against Leona or Sona or something. AD or Armor glyphs aren't so bad if you want to boost your early game strength a little bit more bot-lane.
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
April 30 2012 18:03 GMT
#2823
On May 01 2012 02:44 TheYango wrote:
Watching Lilballz at NGF has restored my faith in Trundle jungle.

Lilballz still plays LoL? where can I watch him
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
April 30 2012 18:08 GMT
#2824
On May 01 2012 02:53 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 02:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 01 2012 02:34 spinesheath wrote:
On May 01 2012 01:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
On that note, what happens when the other champ is untargetable just as Urgot's channel finishes (Vlad, Fizz, Zhonyas)?
Does the universe implode?

How'd you even get to that situation? Can't go untargetable while suppressed.

Banshee's Veil, being Sivir, having Morg on your team etc.

Neither of these lets Urgot's ult even start to channel.


None of them = untargetable. Banshee veil coming up in the 1s period urgot ult channel? Also if both urgots swap at same time (possible due to riot netcode) they don't move?
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
April 30 2012 18:12 GMT
#2825
On May 01 2012 02:53 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 02:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 01 2012 02:34 spinesheath wrote:
On May 01 2012 01:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
On that note, what happens when the other champ is untargetable just as Urgot's channel finishes (Vlad, Fizz, Zhonyas)?
Does the universe implode?

How'd you even get to that situation? Can't go untargetable while suppressed.

Banshee's Veil, being Sivir, having Morg on your team etc.

Neither of these lets Urgot's ult even start to channel.


It was said earlier that if Urgot ults you while you have Morgana's Black Shield for example you will not get supressed by you will still get swapped. So assuming that is true what happends when you Blackshield a Fizz, who then does his Pole thing just before the channel finishes. Does it not swap or does it swap regardless, or does the universe explode.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 30 2012 18:14 GMT
#2826
On May 01 2012 03:12 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 02:53 spinesheath wrote:
On May 01 2012 02:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 01 2012 02:34 spinesheath wrote:
On May 01 2012 01:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
On that note, what happens when the other champ is untargetable just as Urgot's channel finishes (Vlad, Fizz, Zhonyas)?
Does the universe implode?

How'd you even get to that situation? Can't go untargetable while suppressed.

Banshee's Veil, being Sivir, having Morg on your team etc.

Neither of these lets Urgot's ult even start to channel.


It was said earlier that if Urgot ults you while you have Morgana's Black Shield for example you will not get supressed by you will still get swapped. So assuming that is true what happends when you Blackshield a Fizz, who then does his Pole thing just before the channel finishes. Does it not swap or does it swap regardless, or does the universe explode.

Urgots ult suppresses you. So fizz cant do his pole jump.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 18:16:55
April 30 2012 18:16 GMT
#2827
No you're black shielded so you don't get suppressed. Then when the swap is about to happen you pole vault. It's like if a tree falls in the woods.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
April 30 2012 18:17 GMT
#2828
On May 01 2012 03:14 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 03:12 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 01 2012 02:53 spinesheath wrote:
On May 01 2012 02:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 01 2012 02:34 spinesheath wrote:
On May 01 2012 01:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
On that note, what happens when the other champ is untargetable just as Urgot's channel finishes (Vlad, Fizz, Zhonyas)?
Does the universe implode?

How'd you even get to that situation? Can't go untargetable while suppressed.

Banshee's Veil, being Sivir, having Morg on your team etc.

Neither of these lets Urgot's ult even start to channel.


It was said earlier that if Urgot ults you while you have Morgana's Black Shield for example you will not get supressed by you will still get swapped. So assuming that is true what happends when you Blackshield a Fizz, who then does his Pole thing just before the channel finishes. Does it not swap or does it swap regardless, or does the universe explode.

Urgots ult suppresses you. So fizz cant do his pole jump.


Crowd control immunity such as Black Shield or Ragnarok will prevent the suppression effect, but if the channel completes the target will still be moved.

^taken from the LoL wiki on Urgots ultimate.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 30 2012 18:18 GMT
#2829
This conversation is pretty humorous. People keep restating things
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 30 2012 18:20 GMT
#2830
On May 01 2012 03:18 mordek wrote:
This conversation is pretty humorous. People keep restating things

TL LoL General general.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
April 30 2012 18:37 GMT
#2831
On May 01 2012 03:18 mordek wrote:
This conversation is pretty humorous. People keep restating things


You'd almost think they all are just argueing for the sake of it.

On a different note; the more I've played with movespeed quints the more I like them. It started with just junglers, untill I realized it's pretty good on a lot of tops as well. Now after having played some ryze with movespeed I really feel like swapping out my ap quints on standard mana ap champs to movespeed as well. And, godforbid, maybe even swap out ad quints for movespeed on ad carries.
Anyone tried ad/ap with movespeed quints for a while?
Only the dead have seen the end of war
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 30 2012 18:46 GMT
#2832
Ashe with MS quints is amazing since she's so kite-dependent, along with her amazing slows almost nobody can catch or get away with her without flash or an escape tool.

MS quints on AP has been common because it helps throughout the entire game whilst the standard 3 AP Quints only give a little extra early game damage
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
April 30 2012 18:48 GMT
#2833
Lilballz plays for Taipai Assasins doesnt he?
washed
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 30 2012 19:09 GMT
#2834
On May 01 2012 03:18 mordek wrote:
This conversation is pretty humorous. People keep restating things

It's the TL LoL General Discussion Meta, waiting for new patch for meta to change. Huehuehuehue.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 30 2012 19:14 GMT
#2835
I don't see the point of running MS on AD carries. Usually AD carries get zeal/pd/triforce, and that's plenty of extra MS for most of the game. Usually you're shoot/scoot, and teamfights usually aren't about being that mobile, it's about not getting caught, the %ms you get from quints aren't gunna prevent you from getting caught in teamfights.

As far as AP's go in terms of MS quints, I could see it being useful in champs who's base MS is dreadfully terrible, and doesn't have a form of CC that can stop enemies in their track.
liftlift > tsm
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#2836
you dont start the game with a zeal, moving faster allows you to poke better and win the lane.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
April 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#2837
chobz and soloside on saints stream come watch
GANDHISAUCE
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#2838
On May 01 2012 04:14 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't see the point of running MS on AD carries. Usually AD carries get zeal/pd/triforce, and that's plenty of extra MS for most of the game. Usually you're shoot/scoot, and teamfights usually aren't about being that mobile, it's about not getting caught, the %ms you get from quints aren't gunna prevent you from getting caught in teamfights.

In a lane where most engagements come in the form of autoattack trades, potentially getting or avoiding an extra autoattack on every trade has an enormous effect on your strength in lane.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 30 2012 19:35 GMT
#2839
I feel like most AD's would rather do guaranteed extra damage in a poke/trade than having slightly more mobility, because to be perfectly honest it's hard to abuse the mobility to come ahead in trades when you're down 7AD.
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
April 30 2012 20:12 GMT
#2840
Apologies if this has been discussed before (I did a quick search and couldn't find anything), but what are the pros/cons of Maw of Malmortius vs. Wit's End?

Seems like both are decent ways of getting damage and MR for bruisers, but evidently they must play to different strengths. Is it a matter of it being better/worse on different champs, or could one be said to be straight up a superior item.
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