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On May 01 2012 05:12 Iskusstvo wrote:
Apologies if this has been discussed before (I did a quick search and couldn't find anything), but what are the pros/cons of Maw of Malmortius vs. Wit's End?
Seems like both are decent ways of getting damage and MR for bruisers, but evidently they must play to different strengths. Is it a matter of it being better/worse on different champs, or could one be said to be straight up a superior item.
Wits is godlike. Maw is less so.
I only ever go Hex on someone that REALLY hates Aspeed or REALLY wants AD. Ie the list Smash posted.
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On May 01 2012 05:12 Iskusstvo wrote:
Apologies if this has been discussed before (I did a quick search and couldn't find anything), but what are the pros/cons of Maw of Malmortius vs. Wit's End?
Seems like both are decent ways of getting damage and MR for bruisers, but evidently they must play to different strengths. Is it a matter of it being better/worse on different champs, or could one be said to be straight up a superior item.
I go wits on champs that benefit quite a lot from attackspeed but mainly as a defensive item. I go Hexdrinker on champs I want MR on but want offensive items more.
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maw is much better if you plan on being able to crit. like gangplank could build a maw and be better off than a wits by far. they arent really comparable items though, maw is much more expensive. its better to compare to hexdrinker ;o wits is a really strong item but im pretty sure maw is actually just better when you are 6 items, but cost for cost wits probably cant be beaten.
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On May 01 2012 05:12 Iskusstvo wrote:
Apologies if this has been discussed before (I did a quick search and couldn't find anything), but what are the pros/cons of Maw of Malmortius vs. Wit's End?
Seems like both are decent ways of getting damage and MR for bruisers, but evidently they must play to different strengths. Is it a matter of it being better/worse on different champs, or could one be said to be straight up a superior item.
It's a matter of the champion you're playing. Hexdrinker/MoM are better of people with a lot of AD ratios, whereas Wit's is better of tanky guys who like to attack and scale well with AS.
Hexdrinker/MoM
Pantheon
Jarman IV
Lee Sin
Riven
Wukong
Garen
Wit's End
Warwick
Udyr
Skarner
Xin Zhao
Irelia
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So basically Maw is better on AD casters and Wits is better on autoattackers.
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smash more duo with shake later?!?! its teh fun
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Smash, add Naut to the Wit's list. It's the most broken thing in the world.
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On May 01 2012 05:35 Requizen wrote:
Smash, add Naut to the Wit's list. It's the most broken thing in the world.
Also olaf to the hexdrinker list. I'm sure there are others too.
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which is better on nocturne? since he has both an AD and an AS steroid they both seem good.
i guess on paper wit's is better when you consider that you max Q before W and the synergy with his passive, but with weak mechanics i can't help but feel that a decent amount of attack speed on melee champs gets wasted against moving targets.
edit: yeah the lack of 100% uptime on Q's steroid has led me to buy hexdrinker/maw in the past when i needed MR
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On May 01 2012 05:46 chalice wrote:
which is better on nocturne? since he has both an AD and an AS steroid they both seem good.
i guess on paper wit's is better when you consider that you max Q before W and the synergy with his passive, but with weak mechanics i can't help but feel that a decent amount of attack speed on melee champs gets wasted against moving targets.
This just me, but when I play noct I usually dont get either lol. Can't remember building any MR on nocturne other than mercs and a very rare fon if they magic heavy. I'd go for hex though. Has attackspeed already and Q and R scale with AD. Only gets bonus AD if he's actually on his Q.
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On May 01 2012 05:46 chalice wrote:
which is better on nocturne? since he has both an AD and an AS steroid they both seem good.
i guess on paper wit's is better when you consider that you max Q before W and the synergy with his passive, but with weak mechanics i can't help but feel that a decent amount of attack speed on melee champs gets wasted against moving targets.
The higher your attack speed, the less time you have to stand still to autoattack, so you can chase better.
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On May 01 2012 05:31 turdburgler wrote:
smash more duo with shake later?!?! its teh fun
Was Shake streaming that?
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ya we all watched him feed
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On May 01 2012 05:46 chalice wrote:
which is better on nocturne? since he has both an AD and an AS steroid they both seem good.
i guess on paper wit's is better when you consider that you max Q before W and the synergy with his passive, but with weak mechanics i can't help but feel that a decent amount of attack speed on melee champs gets wasted against moving targets.
edit: yeah the lack of 100% uptime on Q's steroid has led me to buy hexdrinker/maw in the past when i needed MR
Noct build is Wriggles->Hog & Avarice-> Ghostblade/Mallet (depending on if you are stupid fed or need to live)->whatever you didnt get.
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On May 01 2012 05:57 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 05:31 turdburgler wrote:
smash more duo with shake later?!?! its teh fun Was Shake streaming that?
yes
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On May 01 2012 06:01 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 05:46 chalice wrote:
which is better on nocturne? since he has both an AD and an AS steroid they both seem good.
i guess on paper wit's is better when you consider that you max Q before W and the synergy with his passive, but with weak mechanics i can't help but feel that a decent amount of attack speed on melee champs gets wasted against moving targets.
edit: yeah the lack of 100% uptime on Q's steroid has led me to buy hexdrinker/maw in the past when i needed MR Noct build is Wriggles->Hog & Avarice-> Ghostblade/Mallet (depending on if you are stupid fed or need to live)->whatever you didnt get.
so i'm not allowed to buy an MR item against double ap or a fed mid when i'm sitting at 3k+ hp and 200+ armor with only 80-90 MR?
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On May 01 2012 06:06 chalice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 06:01 Two_DoWn wrote:On May 01 2012 05:46 chalice wrote:
which is better on nocturne? since he has both an AD and an AS steroid they both seem good.
i guess on paper wit's is better when you consider that you max Q before W and the synergy with his passive, but with weak mechanics i can't help but feel that a decent amount of attack speed on melee champs gets wasted against moving targets.
edit: yeah the lack of 100% uptime on Q's steroid has led me to buy hexdrinker/maw in the past when i needed MR Noct build is Wriggles->Hog & Avarice-> Ghostblade/Mallet (depending on if you are stupid fed or need to live)->whatever you didnt get. so i'm not allowed to buy an MR item against double ap or a fed mid when i'm sitting at 3k+ hp and 200+ armor with only 80-90 MR?
Nop. Thats what the massive HP pool is for.
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On May 01 2012 06:01 Yiruru wrote:
ya we all watched him feed
oic
Shake real super feeder. Would've 0-3'd but my mantheon too stronk.
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There are MR items other than hexdrinker and wit's end too.
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But if you build items that only give defense how can you call yourself tanky DPS or complain about tanky DPS meta?
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