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overt
United States9006 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
And the bad ones are fucking BAD and die in 2 seconds. I'd be like the Akali FOTM all over again, only instead running into the same "it doesnt matter if akali is bad and 0-5 in lane, she just goes into teamfight gets 5 kills and builds a gunblade and wins" it'll be "swain is bad and 0-5 and just dies." | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On March 23 2012 12:56 overt wrote: I don't think Swain will be fotm honestly. He doesn't like destroy anyone mid, most solo top players shy away from APs and prefer tanky AD bruisers, and he doesn't have cool leaps like Ahri, Kennen, or Kassadin. This also leads to him being one of the least played champions (he's routinely like in the bottom 20 or so played champs) which means that Riot never releases new skins for him. Which makes me sad because Swain is awesome and deserves a new skin. It's k because he's got one of the best release skins imo. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
He doesn't like destroy anyone mid Hoooh man, you do not want to see the utter backdooring Swain vs Karthus/Annie/Kassadin/Ryze is. And anyone he gets an upper hand on (whether through a mistake or jungle gank). Once Swain gets a level or gold advantage, his opponent is pretty much done without help. There's just no way to straight up trade with him. | ||
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Craton
United States17272 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:15 Craton wrote: If blue buff was nerfed because of the major abusers, it makes no sense to buff their ult mana costs. If you end up with an offsetting change, it's not a nerf at all. It makes blue less important. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:15 ManyCookies wrote: Hoooh man, you do not want to see the utter backdooring Swain vs Karthus/Annie/Kassadin/Ryze is. And anyone he gets an upper hand on (whether through a mistake or jungle gank). Once Swain gets a level or gold advantage, the other Mid is pretty much done without help. I don't think he's bad mid. But he doesn't like crush people mid or out push people like Cass or Morg. And about the blue buff changes, I don't think they had Anivia/Swain in mind when they nerfed it. They just didn't want it to give champions infinite mana late game. It's not like Anivia or Swain were super common picks at the pro level anyways. Morello even said that they feel the blue buff changes was unfair to them and so they were looking at their toggle ults. It still has a purpose because it means champions like Cass can't just spam shit with blue late game. I don't think the nerf was at all targeted at the champions it hurt the most (i.e., Swain/Anivia). | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 23 2012 12:40 overt wrote: Very likely that whatever Anivia/Swain buffs they give to their ults will just be to compensate for the blue buff nerf. So it'll probably be incredibly minor. Really stupid though how many people were like, "nah it's cool they're still strong." Of course they're both still strong but the blue buff nerf hurt those two champions more than it hurt any other APs so it makes sense that they get some kind of reduced mana cost on their ults to make up for it. Of course, it should definitely be minor but I don't think Riot is going to over due it. Also I wouldn't mind a Swain fotm. Maybe it'd get more people to play him so that Riot would release a new Swain skin. i'm of the opinion anivia was insanely overpowered tho, and still is. TBH i'd be happy to see further nerfs on her, just glad hardly any1 plays her, kus she's easily one of the most frustrating champs to play against post-laning. | ||
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ManyCookies
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On March 23 2012 09:53 Bezelheim wrote: Who would you guys run top and jungle in a poke/disengage comp? I was thinking Nidalee mid, Corki bot with Janna, but no clue who to run in the other two places. Nidalee would probably be better suited top, and trundle would be a fantastic choice for the jungle. Mid is a little more tricky. On paper Lux would do really really well in this type of comp, but it's hard to justify picking her because she hits a wall so early. Other viable "poke" mids include gragas, xerath, TF, and possibly ziggs. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:20 barbsq wrote: i'm of the opinion anivia was insanely overpowered tho, and still is. TBH i'd be happy to see further nerfs on her, just glad hardly any1 plays her, kus she's easily one of the most frustrating champs to play against post-laning. Not OP, just annOyP. Frustrating b/c of slow + minion slaying. The egg is also dumb. As a rule I don't like those long CD abilities, even summoners seem stupid at times. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:36 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: kinda off-topic but running a double wota comp with ryze and swain is stupidly overpowered as hell. Welcome to double wota in general  | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
As an aside, how on earth was Swain not considered overpowered before his Bird Form nerf? I can't comprehend losing with a Swain that heals as much on minions as champions and doesn't abate by Exhaust. On paper Lux would do really really well in this type of comp, but it's hard to justify picking her because she hits a wall so early. What do you mean by that? | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
Except both swain and ryze have ults that heal them anyways so having them both in your teamcomp basically makes it a TRIPLE wota or some shit. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:40 ManyCookies wrote: As an aside, how on earth was Swain not considered overpowered before his Bird Form nerf? I can't comprehend losing with a Swain that heals as much on minions as champions and doesn't abate by Exhaust. He was op. HotshotGG ran him with great success in tournies and in scrims prior to the nerf. It wasn't that he wasn't op though, it's just that Swain has never been that popular of a champion. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:50 ManyCookies wrote: How does Ryze's Ultimate treat spell vamp anyway? Does it consider Overload/Rune Prison an AoE spell, hence applying 33% healing? Or does it still treat it as single target, healing for full off everything? yes they are treated as AOE with R on Also LOL is totally fucked right now with lag | ||
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Craton
United States17272 Posts
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