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Craton
United States17274 Posts
It's really difficult (pretty much impossible) to actually say one way or the other without actually knowing the underlying information. There's a ton of options they have on mitigating the additional demand ranging from when and how often the pages are saved or pulled from the server, making the feature optional, adding more hardware just for this kind of thing, etc. And that's if they even feel the added performance costs even need addressing with the current architecture. | ||
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yenta
Poland1142 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:45 0123456789 wrote: Why doesn't riot add more servers. Every time I log on, there's a queue now. Don't be cheap riot! U making teh bank. Come back and do the duos with me again! | ||
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Acechi
United States50 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Bruisers usually build witsend or hexdrinker, while AD carries build QSS (or BVeil), Usually putting their MR +100, which is around 50% reduction. So 1% truedamage should be a nice improvement. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:44 yenta wrote: I think its laughable to say that pulling a small string very infrequently will cause a load on the servers. the butterfly effect is not something to scoff at. | ||
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Logrus
United States228 Posts
It's always bugged me SO MUCH that I can't assign default cast a shift modifier, ie shift+q for normal cast and q for smartcast. And I could swear I saw this functionality on pro streams particularly Salce. Also I was pissed I coulnd't rebind ~ to something better like X. apparently I just had to edit the input config file directly instead of try to do it through the fail in game interface here's my new UBER BINDINGZ for those interested [GameEvents] evtCameraLockToggle=[Shift][y] evtOpenShop=[p] evtPlayerHoldPosition=[x] evtCastSpell1=[Shift][q] evtCastSpell2=[Shift][w] evtCastSpell3=[Shift][e] evtCastSpell4=[Shift][r] evtSmartCastSpell1=[<Unbound>] evtSmartCastSpell2=[<Unbound>] evtSmartCastSpell3=[<Unbound>] evtSmartCastSpell4=[<Unbound>] evtCastAvatarSpell1=[Shift][d] evtCastAvatarSpell2=[Shift][f] evtSmartCastAvatarSpell1=[<Unbound>] evtSmartCastAvatarSpell2=[<Unbound>] evtShowHealthBars=[Shift][l] evtToggleMinionHealthBars=[<Unbound>] evtPlayerAttackMove=[a],[g] evtUseItem1=[<Unbound>] evtUseItem2=[<Unbound>] evtUseItem3=[<Unbound>] evtUseItem4=[<Unbound>] evtUseItem5=[<Unbound>] evtUseItem6=[<Unbound>] evtSmartCastItem1=[1] evtSmartCastItem2=[2] evtSmartCastItem3=[3] evtSmartCastItem4=[4] evtSmartCastItem5=[5] evtSmartCastItem6=[6] evtPlayerAttackMoveClick=[Shift] [Button 2] evtSmartPlusSelfCastSpell1=[q] evtSmartPlusSelfCastSpell2=[w] evtSmartPlusSelfCastSpell3=[e] evtSmartPlusSelfCastSpell4=[r] evtSmartPlusSelfCastAvatarSpell1=[d] evtSmartPlusSelfCastAvatarSpell2=[f] evtCameraSnap=[Space] evtSelectSelf=[<Unbound>] evtSelectAlly1=[F1] evtSelectAlly2=[F2] evtSelectAlly3=[F3] evtSelectAlly4=[F4] evtDrawHud=[<Unbound>] evtSelfCastSpell1=[<Unbound>] evtSelfCastSpell2=[<Unbound>] evtSelfCastSpell3=[<Unbound>] evtSelfCastSpell4=[<Unbound>] evtSelfCastAvatarSpell1=[<Unbound>] evtSelfCastAvatarSpell2=[<Unbound>] evtEmoteJoke=[Alt][1] evtEmoteTaunt=[Alt][2] evtEmoteDance=[Alt][3] evtEmoteLaugh=[Alt][4] evtPlayerStopPosition=[s],[t] evntPlayerPingCursor=[h] evntPlayerPingCursorDanger=[b] evtUseItem7=[v] evtOnUIMouse4Pan=[<Unbound>] evtChampionOnly=[n] EDIT : OMG WOAAAAH they promised bug fix and QOL buffs for Teemo and instead HUUUGE TEEMO NERF wow | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On April 12 2012 09:08 wei2coolman wrote: Sunfire cape change should be a buff, right? Since it's true damage, ergo can't be reduced by MR. Bruisers usually build witsend or hexdrinker, while AD carries build QSS (or BVeil), Usually putting their MR +100, which is around 50% reduction. So 1% truedamage should be a nice improvement. That looks like a huge buff, but also likely fake. A bunch of those notes were not on the PBE at all (ie Kog'Maw nerfs) and seem kinda fishy, like someone made them up in reaction to IPL4. (Also the grammar is bad in some places but it's possible this is a translation, I guess.) | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On April 12 2012 09:08 wei2coolman wrote: Sunfire cape change should be a buff, right? Since it's true damage, ergo can't be reduced by MR. Bruisers usually build witsend or hexdrinker, while AD carries build QSS (or BVeil), Usually putting their MR +100, which is around 50% reduction. So 1% truedamage should be a nice improvement. You'd think that they'd increase the price of it if they made it deal true damage. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On April 12 2012 09:19 Ferrose wrote: You'd think that they'd increase the price of it if they made it deal true damage. well right now its trash so idk im happy to see it buffed. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:41 obesechicken13 wrote: I really don't buy this. I'm sure significantly more bandwith goes through the server in game than what can be put in a small text file. That's like saying your mortgage costs more than the fuel for your car. It probably is, but you can't just ignore it either. I do not know how the mastery servers are being set up, but it would probably go something like this. A query is sent to server for userlookup The server runs search algorithm over millions of users based. I don't know whether the client knows your primary key associated with your account or not. If not, that's another query that needs to be run. The server also needs to check your summoner level, requiring another query. Finally this information gets returned to the client. Now run this every single time someone goes into champion select, or someone loads a profile, or when a game initialises. There are approximately 20+ games that start per second on average. Don't know figures for Profile Views. But it's really not a trivial matter. On April 12 2012 09:11 Logrus wrote: WOWOW I just discovered I can actually rebind my keys the way I want!! [...] Why is this still new to people. It's not like I made a thread all about doing this sort of stuff and even went and found every possible keybind and input command... On April 12 2012 08:59 Acechi wrote: I think the new patch notes are already out, right here. Some wrong stuff in there. The stuff datamined off the PBE on lolpro.com is probably more accurate. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:44 yenta wrote: I think its laughable to say that pulling a small string very infrequently will cause a load on the servers. you clearly haven't been playing on the same shitty servers as I have lol | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
Especially in late game where most champions are 3k HP or higher? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On April 12 2012 09:29 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: That's like saying your mortgage costs more than the fuel for your car. It probably is, but you can't just ignore it either. I do not know how the mastery servers are being set up, but it would probably go something like this. A query is sent to server for userlookup The server runs search algorithm over millions of users based. I don't know whether the client knows your primary key associated with your account or not. If not, that's another query that needs to be run. The server also needs to check your summoner level, requiring another query. Finally this information gets returned to the client. Now run this every single time someone goes into champion select, or someone loads a profile, or when a game initialises. There are approximately 20+ games that start per second on average. Don't know figures for Profile Views. But it's really not a trivial matter. Well I think they have one table for every user. You only need to find the user once. This query shouldn't take long and in fact you should have it right when someone logs into the client. The connection is already established. Now finding the information about things like summoner levels takes O(1) time aka constant time. The load should be minimal if the coding was done correctly. And it's always possible to not have to load a file over and over if one creates a temporary backup on the client side and just syncs it up with the server whenever necessary. On April 12 2012 09:08 wei2coolman wrote: the butterfly effect is not something to scoff at. I think the butterfly effect is more about small actions having large consequences in the way our universe works. Like every time I move my arm I displace air that could create tornados in australia or influence a supernova in a galaxy far away. It's not about small things like multiple people waving their arms adding up to big things. Also I'm also calling BS on the patch notes with sunfire cape getting true damage. It's a community consensus that sunfire is a bad item and there have been people calling for it to do true damage for no good reason but giving it true damage is just retarded. "We're gonna make this farming item make you better at slow drawn out fights against tanks." | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
On April 12 2012 09:40 Juicyfruit wrote: The problem is that even late-game it doesn't exactly make much of a difference. 3000HP = 30dps which is kinda sad. That's even stronger than the old 40 magic damage per second... | ||
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