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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 12 2012 00:56 GMT
#5341
on the subject of server side vs local. on world of warcraft it wasnt until about 2 years ago that macros were kept server side. a few lines of text werent kept on a server that hosts an entire world. blizzard couldnt 'afford' to do it for 5 ish years of gameplay.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2012 00:56 GMT
#5342
On April 12 2012 09:55 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 09:40 Juicyfruit wrote:
The problem is that even late-game it doesn't exactly make much of a difference. 3000HP = 30dps which is kinda sad.


That's even stronger than the old 40 magic damage per second...


Except that the old sunfire cape was gotten less than 12 minutes into the cape where everybody's HP and MR was low, making the flat 40 DPS actually really strong for when you get it.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
April 12 2012 00:56 GMT
#5343
sunfire cape is exactly the same on PBE as it is live, just because people on the riot forums are getting trolled doesn't mean you have to as well
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 12 2012 00:58 GMT
#5344
On April 12 2012 08:59 Acechi wrote:
I think the new patch notes are already out, right here.

Ezreal... buffs?

Please be true, no matter how miniscule.
It's your boy Guzma!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 12 2012 00:58 GMT
#5345
What they really need to do to fix Sunfire cape is to reduce the price to something reasonable in the 2,000-2,200 gold range, not the ridiculous 2,600 it is now, I mean you're basically paying for a Giants Belt + Chain Vest with a 800 gold shitty passive.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 12 2012 01:01 GMT
#5346
I'm going to go top as Olaf and enemy picked Rumble. Am I fucked?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 12 2012 01:06 GMT
#5347
On April 12 2012 10:01 Alaric wrote:
I'm going to go top as Olaf and enemy picked Rumble. Am I fucked?

You should be able to beat him if you trade properly, stay behind minions so his harpoons dont hit you and whenever he flamethowers, kite back and when its on CD hit him with your true damage. You will come out ahead, he wont be able to kill you unless he gets free harass in and you have your ult to escape his if he ever uses it. Buy a early null-magic-mantle if you're doing poorly
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
April 12 2012 01:07 GMT
#5348
On April 12 2012 09:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
What they really need to do to fix Sunfire cape is to reduce the price to something reasonable in the 2,000-2,200 gold range, not the ridiculous 2,600 it is now, I mean you're basically paying for a Giants Belt + Chain Vest with a 800 gold shitty passive.


They should make the unique passive not unique anymore so that sunfire Evelynn becomes legit.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 01:13:57
April 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#5349
On April 12 2012 10:07 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 09:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
What they really need to do to fix Sunfire cape is to reduce the price to something reasonable in the 2,000-2,200 gold range, not the ridiculous 2,600 it is now, I mean you're basically paying for a Giants Belt + Chain Vest with a 800 gold shitty passive.


They should make the unique passive not unique anymore so that sunfire Evelynn becomes legit.

RandomSummoner123 is playing Annie on Summoner's Rift, he is having fun killing nooblords in the evil forest when suddenly his HP bar drops from 100 to 0 in less than 5 seconds by an invisible force. He watched helplessly as the killer was revealed to be xDARKFIREKILLRx, the Evelynn player on the enemy team.

Bewildered, he types in all chat: "WTF HAXXOR HOW U KILLZ ME WTHOUT ME SEE U??!?!?." xDARKFIREKILLRx only smirked as he read this comment and farmed more minions in order to buy more capes of suns...
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 01:16:38
April 12 2012 01:16 GMT
#5350
On April 12 2012 10:07 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 09:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
What they really need to do to fix Sunfire cape is to reduce the price to something reasonable in the 2,000-2,200 gold range, not the ridiculous 2,600 it is now, I mean you're basically paying for a Giants Belt + Chain Vest with a 800 gold shitty passive.


They should make the unique passive not unique anymore so that sunfire Evelynn becomes legit.


This?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 12 2012 01:17 GMT
#5351
http://www.own3d.tv/live/37907/Salce

EG vs Goose scrim inc
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 01:29:27
April 12 2012 01:29 GMT
#5352
All the support lack of fun stuff seems like it would be kinda hard to balance, but what if Riot just put in more items for supports to choose from? That would add a bit of variety to what they could get, and making the items mostly actives might give the support role a more technically demanding aspect to it. Also, I find that providing a bunch of low-cost support items would make the role of support a lot better, as many will have trouble getting the items that they really need without the farm.

Tl:dr giving the support class more items to choose from (more items with actives as well) and at lower costs to lower the significance of lack of farm might help to make the role more fun and active.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 01:41:53
April 12 2012 01:33 GMT
#5353
On April 12 2012 10:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/37907/Salce

EG vs Goose scrim inc


salce aniv vs mancloud fotm midraka

eg got pooped on

goose poop
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17273 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 01:48:22
April 12 2012 01:44 GMT
#5354
I find it peculiar that they buffed Janna's ult mana cost. I've played Janna a lot (I'm a hipster Janna at that having played her extensively in S1 with a 80.6% winrate) and I've never felt like her ult mana cost was particularly prohibitive. Given how FotM she is, I would've expected them to leave her alone or nerf her (even though she's probably the most balanced support there has ever been).

On April 12 2012 08:45 0123456789 wrote:
Why doesn't riot add more servers. Every time I log on, there's a queue now. Don't be cheap riot! U making teh bank.

Because according to them, it wouldn't help. There's some kind of limitation with how things are written or pieced together, aka presumably after a certain # of servers, there's a bottleneck somewhere that prevents additional servers from helping with that. It's why they split EU.

On April 12 2012 09:11 Logrus wrote:
EDIT : OMG WOAAAAH they promised bug fix and QOL buffs for Teemo and instead HUUUGE TEEMO NERF wow

Considering that it's current duration is too long and they gave him higher damage, a shorter cd on his mini-ghost, and a greater ability to spam his shrooms, it's hardly surprising. It's for the better.

On April 12 2012 09:11 Logrus wrote:
WOWOW I just discovered I can actually rebind my keys the way I want!!

Yep. Still don't know why they haven't changed it to be doable in the client when it clearly works without incident. I can't fathom how the code could be very difficult to change for this.

On April 12 2012 09:19 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 09:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Sunfire cape change should be a buff, right? Since it's true damage, ergo can't be reduced by MR.

Bruisers usually build witsend or hexdrinker, while AD carries build QSS (or BVeil), Usually putting their MR +100, which is around 50% reduction. So 1% truedamage should be a nice improvement.


You'd think that they'd increase the price of it if they made it deal true damage.

The damage won't be going up that much in most typical scenarios and it's currently considered to be rather cost-inefficient. I imagine they'll be watching to see what happens.

I'm going to hold off on the other changes until there are actual patch notes and not potentially fake ones.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 12 2012 01:49 GMT
#5355
On April 12 2012 10:06 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 10:01 Alaric wrote:
I'm going to go top as Olaf and enemy picked Rumble. Am I fucked?

You should be able to beat him if you trade properly, stay behind minions so his harpoons dont hit you and whenever he flamethowers, kite back and when its on CD hit him with your true damage. You will come out ahead, he wont be able to kill you unless he gets free harass in and you have your ult to escape his if he ever uses it. Buy a early null-magic-mantle if you're doing poorly


Hm... he played strangely, very defensively at first, and became much more aggressive (I failed a Q when I dove him at level 5 and died after him, he lost 2 minions waves tho so worth it) later. After awhile I'd take a lot of damage from his hits when we traded, and when he'd chase me with the flamethrower on (he had MS quints and I picked MR ones, so... ).
I got an hexdrinker and maxed Q first to be able to harass him safely despite his shield spamming. Then their jungle failed and their mid raged and went afk so it's pretty much void (he wasn't strong enough to dive me w/o dying I think, but he'd have outpushed me by a lot).

To make it less specific (lest I went to the Olaf thread), I feel that had I taken MS quints instead of MR, I'd have suffered less damage because he wouldn't have outran me (398 to 378, basically, both boots1), and instead of eating ticks of reduced magic damage, I wouldn't have taken damage at all save for maybe 1-2 ticks. In these kinds of match-ups, would you rather go for MS so that you can engage and disengage more easily (or even dictate the trades against champs w/o gapclosers), or still put defensive quints?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17273 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 02:46:18
April 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#5356
He can't chase you with Q if you throw an axe in his face. If you're eating E's and not landing Q's, the issue is skillshots.

What you want to do in theory is bait out his chase by slowing him so he stays just out of range, then immediately turning back on him as it ends or right before it ends so that you out-trade him. This is a general practice that works for a lot of lane matchups. Or, if you're sufficiently stronger, you can just zerg him and make it so he either runs and does no damage with Q or tries to fight and takes more damage than he deals.
twitch.tv/cratonz
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 02:33:36
April 12 2012 02:33 GMT
#5357
Those patch notes look like complete bullshit to me. There's all the pbe stuff, unchanged, plus some reactive ipl stuff which will probably be in the patch after this one, and everything else seems gleaned from redtracker posts except the sunfire change.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
April 12 2012 02:53 GMT
#5358
Man :/

Everytime I see a streamer that doesn't use smartcast I always cringe because it looks so awkward and makes my hands feel awkward. Pretty much unable to watch SaintVicious stream DX.

Also, it seems that Dyrus plays half the time with smartcast, and then half the time without it... anyone know why?
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
April 12 2012 03:03 GMT
#5359
He probably uses shift to smart cast. Personal issues causing you to cringe? lol
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 03:11:24
April 12 2012 03:08 GMT
#5360
On April 12 2012 10:49 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 10:06 MooMooMugi wrote:
On April 12 2012 10:01 Alaric wrote:
I'm going to go top as Olaf and enemy picked Rumble. Am I fucked?

You should be able to beat him if you trade properly, stay behind minions so his harpoons dont hit you and whenever he flamethowers, kite back and when its on CD hit him with your true damage. You will come out ahead, he wont be able to kill you unless he gets free harass in and you have your ult to escape his if he ever uses it. Buy a early null-magic-mantle if you're doing poorly


Hm... he played strangely, very defensively at first, and became much more aggressive (I failed a Q when I dove him at level 5 and died after him, he lost 2 minions waves tho so worth it) later. After awhile I'd take a lot of damage from his hits when we traded, and when he'd chase me with the flamethrower on (he had MS quints and I picked MR ones, so... ).
I got an hexdrinker and maxed Q first to be able to harass him safely despite his shield spamming. Then their jungle failed and their mid raged and went afk so it's pretty much void (he wasn't strong enough to dive me w/o dying I think, but he'd have outpushed me by a lot).

To make it less specific (lest I went to the Olaf thread), I feel that had I taken MS quints instead of MR, I'd have suffered less damage because he wouldn't have outran me (398 to 378, basically, both boots1), and instead of eating ticks of reduced magic damage, I wouldn't have taken damage at all save for maybe 1-2 ticks. In these kinds of match-ups, would you rather go for MS so that you can engage and disengage more easily (or even dictate the trades against champs w/o gapclosers), or still put defensive quints?

Against Rumble specifically? I would go MS quints simply because Rumble is a champion that in order to beat him, you have to kite effectively and abuse his cooldowns + his "Overheat" passive(whenever his energy bar gets maxed, he has a few seconds where he cant do anything). Plus with the upcoming MR rune nerfs, MS quints are even more attractive, plus they're effective throughout the entire game whilst MR quints are only good for surviving early game magic burst.

MR is quite cheap to buy, 400 gold for 24 MR mantle? And it builds into useful items like Wits end, Hexdrinker, Aegis of Legion, Mercury Treads, G.A?
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