EPT[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 257
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On April 11 2012 12:52 iCanada wrote: I'd say you're not supposed to teamfight with Twitch early game, but late game he like the best AD carry in the game. Big damages, OP range, and he has splash auto attacks... Twitch can melt an entire enemy team faster than any other AD carry in the game. So many things wrong with this... First of all, his 'OP range' and splash autoattacks can be dodged when his ultimate is up. He has one of the worst base hps in the game and therefore any position you are in where you are not completely untouchable means you will disappear as soon as the nearest champion so much as LOOKS at you. If I'm not mistaken he also may be one of the only champions in the game with a turn speed, a relic of DotA at this point. As far as AD carries melting teams quickly, I'd say Vayne/Kog/Trist (mebbe Corki) all have something to say about that. And 3 of those 4 actually have a way to reposition/protect themselves in a teamfight. Some of them multiple ways. There is a time and a place for Twitch but I would argue that lategame is not one of them in most cases. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
Also in a team fight there will be a lot of CC so you probably hit at least 2 people. Edit: 06:00 spelling. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On April 11 2012 13:25 Eppa! wrote: Twitch is pretty damn good late game with a good comp, he has excellent steroid skills. His early game sucks balls either you play cheesy as hell and become useless lategame or you play standard bot or top and your gimped early and suck late game because his lane presence is shit; if he got better base stats he would be a good pick situationally. Also in a team fight there will be a lot of CC so you probably hit at least 2 people. Edit: 06:00 spelling. back in the day when his ult would basically max attack speed by itself, after popping out of q good times.. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On April 11 2012 13:32 Jaso wrote: question: is Shyvana really really good at farming compared to other junglers? I just played a game and felt like I was getting way higher cs than games where I jungled LS or ww, lol. Probably because of the w? W is high aoe damage along with movement speed buff. Therefore she moves faster through the jungle than the others and also has an aoe and a double hit. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On April 11 2012 13:25 Eppa! wrote: Twitch is pretty damn good late game with a good comp, he has excellent steroid skills. His early game sucks balls either you play cheesy as hell and become useless lategame or you play standard bot or top and your gimped early and suck late game because his lane presence is shit; if he got better base stats he would be a good pick situationally. Also in a team fight there will be a lot of CC so you probably hit at least 2 people. Edit: 06:00 spelling. Riot has pretty much confirmed that Twitch (and Evelyn) need buffs but won't get them until after they do the stealth rework. Which was announced about a year ago so..... | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
I'd say her clear speed is mostly the high damage, long duration, no cost W and a bit from the free extra double attack on the big minions. Because she can clear quickly and for free, she has time on her hands to go do other things (normally to counterjungle since her ganks suck without red and/or exhaust). She can chase/disengage very easily with W haste and her ult, which means she can often invade with impunity (and is thus the reason you normally choose to). Her 1v1 is quite strong. If you made her use mana like normal champions, you'd see her fall off in CS since she'd have to budget her abilities and not spam them mindlessly. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On April 11 2012 13:54 beefhamburger wrote: Apparently possible annie buff on the PBE changing her passive to come every 4 spells down from every 5 spells. I never thought her stun frequency was that difficult to manage but I guess it'll help a little more in team fights. In before Annie OP and she's banned in every game. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
On April 11 2012 13:58 WaveofShadow wrote: In before Annie OP and she's banned in every game. nope cause bans will already be Teemo Olaf Shen Vlad and probably 1-2 other top or jungle champs | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On April 11 2012 13:38 arb wrote: back in the day when his ult would basically max attack speed by itself, after popping out of q good times.. But back then champs where a lot stronger. Compare Ashe then to now is like night and day. | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
On April 11 2012 14:05 Eppa! wrote: But back then champs where a lot stronger. Compare Ashe then to now is like night and day. Yep barely anyone realizes that champs are quite a lot weaker nowadays, made the game way less fun for me. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 11 2012 13:16 WaveofShadow wrote: So many things wrong with this... First of all, his 'OP range' and splash autoattacks can be dodged when his ultimate is up. He has one of the worst base hps in the game and therefore any position you are in where you are not completely untouchable means you will disappear as soon as the nearest champion so much as LOOKS at you. If I'm not mistaken he also may be one of the only champions in the game with a turn speed, a relic of DotA at this point. As far as AD carries melting teams quickly, I'd say Vayne/Kog/Trist (mebbe Corki) all have something to say about that. And 3 of those 4 actually have a way to reposition/protect themselves in a teamfight. Some of them multiple ways. There is a time and a place for Twitch but I would argue that lategame is not one of them in most cases. So you're telling me that a 6 item kogmaw can kill a team faster than a 6 item Twitch? Mmmkay... | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 11 2012 14:40 iCanada wrote: So you're telling me that a 6 item kogmaw can kill a team faster than a 6 item Twitch? Mmmkay... I dont think he's seen 6 item Twitch. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
It's why Vayne also exists as a late game hard carry because she has tools to implement her steroids super effectively (instant movement, cloaking, hard cc on top of high damage steroids). Just crapping out high numbers doesn't mean anything if you blow up from being too close and having no effective maneuverability. I mean, he gets 7 attacks before he has to sit in exhaust range. | ||
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xarchaosx
United States89 Posts
Every lane pushes mummy has field day ganking every lane when he feels like Team refuses to kill vayne who goes 14-3-12 even after I flash stun her team doesn’t move to kill just attacks the taric support and proceed to get aced. what can i do when all the lanes get pushed then opposing jungle has a field day ganking any lane? other than just farm my own jungle is there anything good i can do? | ||
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