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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 06 2012 16:37 GMT
#4221
On April 07 2012 01:03 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 00:52 cLutZ wrote:
On April 06 2012 17:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 06 2012 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's the safest/easiest champion to pick that can carry in solo queue? I do alright with Ashe except I'm terrible at utilizing her arrow. I hear Tristana is really easy to play with.


Use smartcast and play Ryze. Going solomid is usually the best way to forcefully carry other lanes as you can win your lane and gank for them. Ryze requires no skillshots, does amazing damage and is hard to kill on top of being an excellent tower diver and is rarely banned at low elos.


Why smartcast on Ryze over not? Isn't its main advantage with skillshots?

Smartcasts main advantage is being able do to shit faster, ryze has like very low cooldowns so it's good on ryze. That's said, so many ryzes that prison a minion during a gank, just lol.


I don't play Ryze, but usually my clicking is not so slow as to give me an advantage either way (it seems).
Freeeeeeedom
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 06 2012 16:37 GMT
#4222
On April 07 2012 01:28 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Is ranked disabled on EUW atm? I know they have lag issues, but is ranked working though?

Ranked is disabled.
Good thing, too. The lagspikes are enormous.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 06 2012 16:59 GMT
#4223
On April 07 2012 01:03 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 00:52 cLutZ wrote:
On April 06 2012 17:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 06 2012 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's the safest/easiest champion to pick that can carry in solo queue? I do alright with Ashe except I'm terrible at utilizing her arrow. I hear Tristana is really easy to play with.


Use smartcast and play Ryze. Going solomid is usually the best way to forcefully carry other lanes as you can win your lane and gank for them. Ryze requires no skillshots, does amazing damage and is hard to kill on top of being an excellent tower diver and is rarely banned at low elos.


Why smartcast on Ryze over not? Isn't its main advantage with skillshots?

Smartcasts main advantage is being able do to shit faster, ryze has like very low cooldowns so it's good on ryze. That's said, so many ryzes that prison a minion during a gank, just lol.


I don't really think it's a significant advantage over non-smartcasting, I just feel that being able to basically roll over qwqeqrq or whatever feels way better than having to click. It's one of those entirely personal preference things.
:3
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 06 2012 17:09 GMT
#4224
On April 06 2012 20:28 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just looked up on the stackable items for the funsies, and something caught my eye.

The gold efficiency of SotO and Mejai's is much better than Leviathan. Leviathan becomes gold efficient at 10 stacks whilst SotO and Mejai's become efficient at 5 stacks.

Why is Leviathan so undervalued? The 15%DR is not exactly loads better than the 15% CDR or 15% MS.


Leviathan isnt as stack efficient becase this:

The counter to snowball items is to kill and focus the player who bought them, Leviathan is a stack item that with every stack makes it more difficult and less desirable to focus and kill the player. IE, it preserves its own stacks.

That said I think its pretty clear the item is a bit flat out bad right now, but it should never have the same efficiency as mejais or SOTO
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 17:13:30
April 06 2012 17:10 GMT
#4225
On April 07 2012 01:59 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 01:03 JackDino wrote:
On April 07 2012 00:52 cLutZ wrote:
On April 06 2012 17:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 06 2012 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's the safest/easiest champion to pick that can carry in solo queue? I do alright with Ashe except I'm terrible at utilizing her arrow. I hear Tristana is really easy to play with.


Use smartcast and play Ryze. Going solomid is usually the best way to forcefully carry other lanes as you can win your lane and gank for them. Ryze requires no skillshots, does amazing damage and is hard to kill on top of being an excellent tower diver and is rarely banned at low elos.


Why smartcast on Ryze over not? Isn't its main advantage with skillshots?

Smartcasts main advantage is being able do to shit faster, ryze has like very low cooldowns so it's good on ryze. That's said, so many ryzes that prison a minion during a gank, just lol.


I don't really think it's a significant advantage over non-smartcasting, I just feel that being able to basically roll over qwqeqrq or whatever feels way better than having to click. It's one of those entirely personal preference things.

I prefer qwqe etc over q click w click q click e click, smartcast IS faster. Not a reason to 100% smartcast it though.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 17:20:10
April 06 2012 17:19 GMT
#4226
On April 07 2012 01:37 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 01:03 JackDino wrote:
On April 07 2012 00:52 cLutZ wrote:
On April 06 2012 17:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 06 2012 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's the safest/easiest champion to pick that can carry in solo queue? I do alright with Ashe except I'm terrible at utilizing her arrow. I hear Tristana is really easy to play with.


Use smartcast and play Ryze. Going solomid is usually the best way to forcefully carry other lanes as you can win your lane and gank for them. Ryze requires no skillshots, does amazing damage and is hard to kill on top of being an excellent tower diver and is rarely banned at low elos.


Why smartcast on Ryze over not? Isn't its main advantage with skillshots?

Smartcasts main advantage is being able do to shit faster, ryze has like very low cooldowns so it's good on ryze. That's said, so many ryzes that prison a minion during a gank, just lol.


I don't play Ryze, but usually my clicking is not so slow as to give me an advantage either way (it seems).


Ryze's skills are also all non-skillshots, so you don't benefit at all from having time to look at an arrow, really, except if it's the range you are unsure about (which shouldn't be an issue once you play Ryze for a few games).

Unless you miss more skills with smartcast (no idea why that would happen, especially for non-skillshots), it will definitely give you an advantage, it doesn't matter how small the advantage is. It's faster, there's no downside.

If you're talking about AoE or skillshot abilities, I'd see how the time you get to look at the radius/line might buy you accuracy, I don't see how it helps with Ryze though. And being able to cast spells sooner is always an advantage.

(Edit: If you just prefer non-smartcast, that's fine, but I think it's clearly an advantage for almost everyone to smartcast point-and-click skills like this, especially with Ryze's passive where spamming skills gives you an additional CDR advantage.)
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
April 06 2012 17:27 GMT
#4227
FUCK YEAH Bunnygirl Riven: PURCHASED.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 06 2012 17:45 GMT
#4228
On April 07 2012 02:27 Koenig99 wrote:
FUCK YEAH Bunnygirl Riven: PURCHASED.

Enjoy your unique skin!
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
April 06 2012 18:00 GMT
#4229
there's pretty much no reason i wouldn't smart-cast point and click nukes. It's skillshots and aoe crap where it really comes down to preference. Most of my skillshots i tend to smartcast, but there are a few (most notably blitz) where the cost of me missing is pretty large, so i'd rather favor accuracy over speed.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 18:18:53
April 06 2012 18:13 GMT
#4230
On April 07 2012 02:27 Koenig99 wrote:
FUCK YEAH Bunnygirl Riven: PURCHASED.

Is it available on NA only?
EDIT: Oh, it's up for EU as well, just had to relog.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
April 06 2012 18:28 GMT
#4231
On April 07 2012 02:45 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 02:27 Koenig99 wrote:
FUCK YEAH Bunnygirl Riven: PURCHASED.

Enjoy your unique skin!


Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 06 2012 18:31 GMT
#4232
Oh what Riot reveals 2 champions in the same week?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#4233
On April 07 2012 03:31 Nos- wrote:
Oh what Riot reveals 2 champions in the same week?


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/varus-champion-sneak-peek

Yeah, looks like a ranged AD to me. He reminds me of Ezreal, except "dark and scary."

I dunno how I feel about that.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
April 06 2012 18:50 GMT
#4234
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1986880

lol
@miicah88
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 18:59:57
April 06 2012 18:59 GMT
#4235
If I were Riot I'd give him the skin and then permanently disable Riven on his account.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 06 2012 19:49 GMT
#4236
What does 'Loss forgiven' mean ? Doest it mean 'We put you with a team of monkey so we didn't count the game' ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 06 2012 19:50 GMT
#4237
On April 07 2012 04:49 Erasme wrote:
What does 'Loss forgiven' mean ? Doest it mean 'We put you with a team of monkey so we didn't count the game' ?

It means servers broken so you wont lose elo for this.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 19:51:05
April 06 2012 19:50 GMT
#4238
On April 07 2012 04:49 Erasme wrote:
What does 'Loss forgiven' mean ? Doest it mean 'We put you with a team of monkey so we didn't count the game' ?



Usually it because the server really laggy or something. Basically means you lose nothing.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
April 06 2012 20:03 GMT
#4239
Okay this is something that bothers me for some while now: Everywhere you go, people say how boring top lane is. How boring the champions are. How its not fun to play. How boring it is to watch And still, atleast it feels that way, 4 out of 5 people in my games want to play top lane. The fifth wants mid. Also: Take a look at the most successful streamers - they are pretty much tiered: Top laners, junglers, solo mids, ad carries and then supports. Of course the numbers mesh a bit, for example TOO pulls more than TRM, but generally speaking the tiers are there.

And another thing: Everybody says that the success of a stream is dependant on the personality. See the reality show-like streams of TSM (minus Dyrus), Destiny etc. How comes that Dyrus, one of the most boring people ever, has one of the most successful streams out there? I mean that guy speaks very rarely, mostly some "oh well that sucks" if he dies - and a lot of sighs. His voice also sounds as if he is perma-stoned. And yet, people flock to him, revere him, make him pictures and drawings and he even spawns memes (huehuehuehuehue). I don't get it, the guy defies all common rules for stream-success.

Anyone able to shed some light on it?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 06 2012 20:10 GMT
#4240
On April 07 2012 05:03 Celial wrote:
Dyrus, one of the most boring people ever

Opinions. As far as I'm concerned, I don't like watching Ocelote too much because even if he sounds nice, and is enthusiastic and stuff, it's somewhat a bit "too much" for me usually. Nothing to do with him playing mid.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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