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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 05 2012 17:08 GMT
#4061
On April 06 2012 00:08 Slusher wrote:
People love shitting all over Wriggles lately, but I still really like it.

actually, I'm not a jungle or top main, I just dabble, I'd like to hear more about why wriggles seems to be falling out of favor. "sell me" if you will. Is it because of early dragon becoming less popular (not worth the risk)? And it was mentioned earlier on this page but the ward for top lane felt like a must when I was playing top, now you don't see wriggles on a lot of tops, where before it felt like only kennen/rumble passed on it.


As a jungler there are a number of factors. The first is the jungle remake, Wriggle's is largely unnecessary for clearing the jungle including buff camps. Next, with wards becoming much more prevalent most Dragon kills are done when the enemy team is unable to contest, rendering Wriggle's less useful. It's not a bad item, but the game has reached a point where it isn't necessarily the best item.

Deciding whether to get Wriggle's or not really comes down to the jungler and how you intend on playing them. It still makes sense on many junglers, but you aren't necessarily wrong for grabbing a couple Doran's Blades instead.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 05 2012 17:24 GMT
#4062
Thanks for advice sob3k. I came at a close conclusion, that I should have just E'd her until she went into kill range (but I'm bad at this as they'll usually start playing defensive and I won't manage to get the opening to seal the deal) instead of trying aggression, but it was too late by then.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
April 05 2012 17:29 GMT
#4063
On April 06 2012 02:24 Alaric wrote:
Thanks for advice sob3k. I came at a close conclusion, that I should have just E'd her until she went into kill range (but I'm bad at this as they'll usually start playing defensive and I won't manage to get the opening to seal the deal) instead of trying aggression, but it was too late by then.

Important also in my opinion is to learn how to smartcast the laser and abuse the fact that you can shot it while running. So you can bait her into walking towards you and then run away+laser. You need to have good feeling for the starting range though, otherwise you turn around and well you can imagine the rest.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 05 2012 17:56 GMT
#4064
On April 05 2012 22:58 -Valor- wrote:
How does everyone feel about no wriggles on jungle Lee sin? I've been opting for an early 2 doran's blades rather than getting wriggles.

You can do 2 dblades with Lee Sin and still be able to clear/gank very well. However, I love wriggles on Lee and I personally think it's core. You can solo dragon np as soon as you get wriggles and the ward from wriggles basically gives you a flash, which essentially lets you run exhaust without needing to worry about having an escape.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 18:08:43
April 05 2012 18:07 GMT
#4065
On April 06 2012 02:29 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 02:24 Alaric wrote:
Thanks for advice sob3k. I came at a close conclusion, that I should have just E'd her until she went into kill range (but I'm bad at this as they'll usually start playing defensive and I won't manage to get the opening to seal the deal) instead of trying aggression, but it was too late by then.

Important also in my opinion is to learn how to smartcast the laser and abuse the fact that you can shot it while running. So you can bait her into walking towards you and then run away+laser. You need to have good feeling for the starting range though, otherwise you turn around and well you can imagine the rest.


The other great thing about lazer smartcast is you really lose nothing compared to regular cast. If you want to set up a precision laser just hold E and and drag, which gives you the targeting graphic, then release to fire. This is good to set up lazer that will get most amount of minons, or to clear wraiths (which you should be doing alot of after you get death). For your wraiths just Q big wraith then E through them all as they run at you should clear whole wraith camp, and you can easily steal their big wraith and a few little wraiths by walking up to the outside of their wall, E big wraith (which gives you vision), and then Q it to kill.

mad CS

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 18:14:27
April 05 2012 18:13 GMT
#4066
Just incase you guys missed it: How you stage a comeback, CLGeu v MYM, Fnatic Raidcall cup semi finals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogY63kQyKCQ)
Go go Alliance.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 19:08:03
April 05 2012 19:06 GMT
#4067
The thing that would bother me the most would be the time it'd take to get the feeling for max range, yeah. Abusing his range is core to playing him I feel, and I got destroyed by AP Cow that didn't care about range with a good lazer you can line-up all minions while they come without exposing yourself to the enemy mid if he's got short range; being able to stay as behind as possible before casting here is important when pushing imo.

Also, Viktor still outpushes Morgana. Always fun to watch, although Karthus/Gragas/etc. do it better (and earlier) than him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 05 2012 19:19 GMT
#4068
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1983273

Jatt now works for Riot games
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 22:05:22
April 05 2012 19:21 GMT
#4069
On April 06 2012 04:19 57 Corvette wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1983273

Jatt now works for Riot games

never really liked jatt after the whole dig/cde fiasco but he's definitely a great player and having him on the riot balance team can only mean good things
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 05 2012 19:23 GMT
#4070
On April 06 2012 04:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 04:19 57 Corvette wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1983273

Jatt now works for Riot games

never really liked jatt after the whole dig/tsm fiasco but he's definitely a great player and having him on the riot balance team can only mean good things


Agree 100%!

And I guess you mean the dignitas/CDE thing for WCG qualifiers?
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
April 05 2012 19:33 GMT
#4071
LoL forums are beyond terrible omg...
F*ck the haters

23 downvotes
scumbag jatt.

47 upvotes


Hopefully, having someone that played the game at a high level will help them for balancing. Also, Jatt could be finally someone Smash or TheYango could send their crazy theorycrafting calculations to.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
April 05 2012 19:33 GMT
#4072
On April 06 2012 04:19 57 Corvette wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1983273

Jatt now works for Riot games

So the rumors were true?!

That's nice, I'm glad for Jatt, and I think it's a great thing for the future of the game to have a (ex)pro gamer helping them with both balance and casting.

Also, congrats to Jatt! He must be quite happy about this ^^
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 05 2012 19:37 GMT
#4073
What's with all the down votes for all the "grats" and "welcome" posts on that thread? :O
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 05 2012 19:38 GMT
#4074
On April 06 2012 04:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 04:19 57 Corvette wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1983273

Jatt now works for Riot games

never really liked jatt after the whole dig/tsm fiasco but he's definitely a great player and having him on the riot balance team can only mean good things


As far as I remember Jatt didn't even do anything wrong?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 05 2012 19:40 GMT
#4075
yay good guy jatt is my favorite
good for him
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 05 2012 19:41 GMT
#4076
On April 06 2012 04:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What's with all the down votes for all the "grats" and "welcome" posts on that thread? :O

Dedicated haters are stronk
Cackle™
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#4077
Jatt's honestly always struck me as a fairly nice guy. I really never understood the hate on him tbh, but that might've been that I just didn't pay that much attention to the fiascos.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
April 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#4078
On April 06 2012 04:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 04:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 06 2012 04:19 57 Corvette wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1983273

Jatt now works for Riot games

never really liked jatt after the whole dig/tsm fiasco but he's definitely a great player and having him on the riot balance team can only mean good things


As far as I remember Jatt didn't even do anything wrong?


He was one that asked the WCG admin about the 'rule clarification'. Which of course doesn't make him any more guilty than the rest of the team.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 05 2012 20:01 GMT
#4079
On April 06 2012 04:59 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 04:38 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 06 2012 04:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 06 2012 04:19 57 Corvette wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1983273

Jatt now works for Riot games

never really liked jatt after the whole dig/tsm fiasco but he's definitely a great player and having him on the riot balance team can only mean good things


As far as I remember Jatt didn't even do anything wrong?


He was one that asked the WCG admin about the 'rule clarification'. Which of course doesn't make him any more guilty than the rest of the team.


Nah, that was Voyboy. Jatt played for a Canadian team and for Dignitas at WCG. A lot of people thought that shouldn't be allowed but a WCG admin okay'd it. It sucked then, but I don't understand why people still even care because CDE got to go to WCG anyways.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
April 05 2012 20:04 GMT
#4080
Jatt didn't do anything wrong... most of the people who got riled up about it just aren't very intelligent and couldn't understand what happened.
True skill comes without effort.
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