On April 04 2012 18:08 UniversalSnip wrote: Those nerfs are literally the smallest possible nerfs given that they increment damage 5 at a time and ap ratios 0.05 at a time. Cosmetic. I can't say why her sudden popularity dimmed to nothing but if I had to guess I'd probably point at her short range vs the high number of skillshot mids these days.
Because that's how it goes in the league community, base manapool nerfed by 10? Worthless champ better try something else. Oh this is actually a pretty good champ better play this. Annie? wtf is an annie"? Riot really should upgrade their champion packs, they were good when the game was new, you got most of the champs, now you barely get any and you don't get any of the newer ones.
Froggen crushed with annie against TSM in scrim yesterday. Everyone just forgot about her.
CLG ran their bursttactics tho, see hero kill hero style. First target called get focussed, with a sure stun and burst that Annie is pretty good then. If you are just kiting it gets pretty meh
Why do you need to kite when you have warwick ult-->lulu ult-->Nautilius ult-->flash tibbers?
On April 04 2012 18:08 UniversalSnip wrote: Those nerfs are literally the smallest possible nerfs given that they increment damage 5 at a time and ap ratios 0.05 at a time. Cosmetic. I can't say why her sudden popularity dimmed to nothing but if I had to guess I'd probably point at her short range vs the high number of skillshot mids these days.
Because that's how it goes in the league community, base manapool nerfed by 10? Worthless champ better try something else. Oh this is actually a pretty good champ better play this. Annie? wtf is an annie"? Riot really should upgrade their champion packs, they were good when the game was new, you got most of the champs, now you barely get any and you don't get any of the newer ones.
Froggen crushed with annie against TSM in scrim yesterday. Everyone just forgot about her.
CLG ran their bursttactics tho, see hero kill hero style. First target called get focussed, with a sure stun and burst that Annie is pretty good then. If you are just kiting it gets pretty meh
You don't run renekton in a poking comp either, do you?
On April 04 2012 18:08 UniversalSnip wrote: Those nerfs are literally the smallest possible nerfs given that they increment damage 5 at a time and ap ratios 0.05 at a time. Cosmetic. I can't say why her sudden popularity dimmed to nothing but if I had to guess I'd probably point at her short range vs the high number of skillshot mids these days.
Because that's how it goes in the league community, base manapool nerfed by 10? Worthless champ better try something else. Oh this is actually a pretty good champ better play this. Annie? wtf is an annie"? Riot really should upgrade their champion packs, they were good when the game was new, you got most of the champs, now you barely get any and you don't get any of the newer ones.
Froggen crushed with annie against TSM in scrim yesterday. Everyone just forgot about her.
CLG ran their bursttactics tho, see hero kill hero style. First target called get focussed, with a sure stun and burst that Annie is pretty good then. If you are just kiting it gets pretty meh
Why do you need to kite when you have warwick ult-->lulu ult-->Nautilius ult-->flash tibbers?
That Annie pick was borderline troll. The day before Froggen picked her and was yelling on top of his voice: "BIG PLAYS!!!" and "FLASH TIBAAAAAAAAAAAAHS!" while playing against some lesser known team. They were up four wins that evening already. I think they were messing around at that point.
do all circle aoe spells do less damage at there edges? like just now i saw salce use ziggs q on a clustered group of about 7 caster minions and 5 died while 2 survived with a sliver of health. they were untouched before hand. i have noticed it with other abilities as well. why is that?
On April 04 2012 20:57 jadoth wrote: do all circle aoe spells do less damage at there edges? like just now i say salce use ziggs q on a clustered group of about 7 caster minions and 5 died while 2 survived with a sliver of health. they were untouched before hand. i have noticed it with other abilities as well. why is that?
Because Riot doesn't want to make area-of-effect spells that deal full damage in a wide radius?
On April 04 2012 18:08 UniversalSnip wrote: Those nerfs are literally the smallest possible nerfs given that they increment damage 5 at a time and ap ratios 0.05 at a time. Cosmetic. I can't say why her sudden popularity dimmed to nothing but if I had to guess I'd probably point at her short range vs the high number of skillshot mids these days.
Because that's how it goes in the league community, base manapool nerfed by 10? Worthless champ better try something else. Oh this is actually a pretty good champ better play this. Annie? wtf is an annie"? Riot really should upgrade their champion packs, they were good when the game was new, you got most of the champs, now you barely get any and you don't get any of the newer ones.
Froggen crushed with annie against TSM in scrim yesterday. Everyone just forgot about her.
CLG ran their bursttactics tho, see hero kill hero style. First target called get focussed, with a sure stun and burst that Annie is pretty good then. If you are just kiting it gets pretty meh
Why do you need to kite when you have warwick ult-->lulu ult-->Nautilius ult-->flash tibbers?
That Annie pick was borderline troll. The day before Froggen picked her and was yelling on top of his voice: "BIG PLAYS!!!" and "FLASH TIBAAAAAAAAAAAAHS!" while playing against some lesser known team. They were up four wins that evening already. I think they were messing around at that point.
Borderline troll? Did you see the game? Annies ults destroyed people.
On April 04 2012 20:57 jadoth wrote: do all circle aoe spells do less damage at there edges? like just now i saw salce use ziggs q on a clustered group of about 7 caster minions and 5 died while 2 survived with a sliver of health. they were untouched before hand. i have noticed it with other abilities as well. why is that?
Not all of them do. The aforementioned tibbers deals equal damage all around its circle.
Was watching salce stream. His team has a botlane of ezrael ashe so ashe goes around getting cs and not buying wards. Maokai: "be useless, buy wards, profit." XD Wards OP.
On April 04 2012 18:08 UniversalSnip wrote: Those nerfs are literally the smallest possible nerfs given that they increment damage 5 at a time and ap ratios 0.05 at a time. Cosmetic. I can't say why her sudden popularity dimmed to nothing but if I had to guess I'd probably point at her short range vs the high number of skillshot mids these days.
Because that's how it goes in the league community, base manapool nerfed by 10? Worthless champ better try something else. Oh this is actually a pretty good champ better play this. Annie? wtf is an annie"? Riot really should upgrade their champion packs, they were good when the game was new, you got most of the champs, now you barely get any and you don't get any of the newer ones.
Froggen crushed with annie against TSM in scrim yesterday. Everyone just forgot about her.
CLG ran their bursttactics tho, see hero kill hero style. First target called get focussed, with a sure stun and burst that Annie is pretty good then. If you are just kiting it gets pretty meh
You don't run renekton in a poking comp either, do you?
You run Renekton in any combo that includes Wickd, doenst matter what tactics you have planned.
One of the big reasons why Annie fell out of flavor were the new masteries. People want to go 21/0/9 on casters these days which isn't as good on Annie due to how Flash dependent she is.
Annie with Tibbers, Flash and stun charged? Easily one of the scariest AP carries in the game. Annie without Flash? Heavily relies on team to get proper damage out.
Not having that 15% off Flash CD hurts. Which is why I play her often with 9/0/21 (You will still burst people in 1 combo early / mid game, and weaker opponents later like AD carries / supports who didn't buy MR yet.)
I used to main Annie and played her a lot so I know her quite well. When we play ranked 5v5s and meet an Annie, I keep track of her flash timers and force fights when it's down. Suddenly fights we lost / barely won are easily won. Just makes a massive difference.
On April 04 2012 18:08 UniversalSnip wrote: Those nerfs are literally the smallest possible nerfs given that they increment damage 5 at a time and ap ratios 0.05 at a time. Cosmetic. I can't say why her sudden popularity dimmed to nothing but if I had to guess I'd probably point at her short range vs the high number of skillshot mids these days.
Because that's how it goes in the league community, base manapool nerfed by 10? Worthless champ better try something else. Oh this is actually a pretty good champ better play this. Annie? wtf is an annie"? Riot really should upgrade their champion packs, they were good when the game was new, you got most of the champs, now you barely get any and you don't get any of the newer ones.
Froggen crushed with annie against TSM in scrim yesterday. Everyone just forgot about her.
CLG ran their bursttactics tho, see hero kill hero style. First target called get focussed, with a sure stun and burst that Annie is pretty good then. If you are just kiting it gets pretty meh
Why do you need to kite when you have warwick ult-->lulu ult-->Nautilius ult-->flash tibbers?
That Annie pick was borderline troll. The day before Froggen picked her and was yelling on top of his voice: "BIG PLAYS!!!" and "FLASH TIBAAAAAAAAAAAAHS!" while playing against some lesser known team. They were up four wins that evening already. I think they were messing around at that point.
Borderline troll? Did you see the game? Annies ults destroyed people.
Yes I saw the game and I think they were messing around a little. Call it experimenting while practicing if you don't like the word trolling. But you are right, it worked really well, I agree. But I think that had something to do with the fact, that they had lulu and naut on their team. Massive cc + FLASH TIBAAAAAAAHHHHS really strong it seems.
On April 04 2012 20:57 jadoth wrote: do all circle aoe spells do less damage at there edges? like just now i saw salce use ziggs q on a clustered group of about 7 caster minions and 5 died while 2 survived with a sliver of health. they were untouched before hand. i have noticed it with other abilities as well. why is that?
Are you 100% sure?
Unless stated in the tooltip, AOE abilities do not have range damage falloff
Apart from new champions just outmatching her in lane, people running MR pages, heal, etc...anything that increases your ehp made Annie worse than before. Add to the fact that people ward everywhere now makes Annie a lot worse because she needs to snowball from ganking. She's pretty much relegated to troll pick now.
TBH it's worth mentioning that it's not just the damage that Baron does. It's that he's got 2 different debuff types that scale stupidly well against players.
I don't know how Riot thought a -50% AD debuff is supposed to encourage good lategame gameplay around Baron. Having my AD carry's damage get completely fucked does not incentivize starting Baron at all.
On April 04 2012 23:00 rob.au wrote: Apart from new champions just outmatching her in lane, people running MR pages, heal, etc...anything that increases your ehp made Annie worse than before. Add to the fact that people ward everywhere now makes Annie a lot worse because she needs to snowball from ganking. She's a troll pick for sure.
Troll pick? Really?
Annie is probably the best solo mid for the current playstyle. Tibbers is an obscene amount of control for blue/dragon skirmishes.
The only REAL issue she has is that people havent figured out how to lane her safely.
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