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GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
April 01 2012 21:23 GMT
#3081
On April 02 2012 06:18 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 06:09 GreenManalishi wrote:
On April 02 2012 06:04 PartyBiscuit wrote:
CLG is playing pretty badly, they'll probably win, but having a 7-1 tower advantage and managing barely a 1k gold overhead is pretty sad.


How is gold differential related to level of play? Have you been watching, CLG has been pushing as 5 for the last 15 minutes, so no time to CS. Gold has come entirely from turrets.

CS and gold isn't that important to a poke comp.

Of course, but if 4not didn't just outpick themselves with terrible heroes, it would be a different story. Almost always the team going 9-1 in turrets with 3 inhibs down is not going to be the team with a gold deficit. If they still have some lack of gold, there is a major flaw in play going on. Gold can still wins games and if 4Not hadn't lost all 3 inhibs and had a better late game composition, they could still have turned it around.


Then tell us this flaw. Don't just say "there is a major flaw in play going on" and then not elaborate. How should CLG have earned more gold?
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
April 01 2012 21:23 GMT
#3082
CLG poke comp is really strong. Kept expecting it to go badly with flash ammumu ult but they played it perfectly
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 01 2012 21:25 GMT
#3083
lulz, giving Froggen Anivia again.....we will see how that works out
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:28:08
April 01 2012 21:27 GMT
#3084
On April 02 2012 06:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 06:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value.

You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it.

Uhh...no?

A creep wave is worth about 130 gold. Dragon is 190 gold per person + 25 for the killer. That's 7.5 creep waves.

XP is about 270 for a creep wave and is 400 for Dragon.

I agree that Dragon is overrated, but throwing around random guesses at gold value that are pretty clearly wrong doesn't advance your case.

Ah my bad. I intended it to mean that for each person who leaves lane it does represent a loss of about a creep wave. I just wasnt clear about it. I.E mid, bot, and even when top leave they lose what is basically a comparable amount of gold. Obviously a single creep wave does not equate to the entirety of dragon, but when you split that 190 into each character, then take into account that they have to leave lane to do it, it becomes less skewed.

The only REAL benefit is that you get gold onto the support, who werent gonna take that wave anyway.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 01 2012 21:28 GMT
#3085
One thing though is that Trundle advertises you're trying to do the poke comp. I don't remember the pick order for this game, but I'm guessing Maokai was done early on. If they picked Trundle 4not might have picked better to deal with the poke comp.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 01 2012 21:28 GMT
#3086
On April 02 2012 06:25 sob3k wrote:
lulz, giving Froggen Anivia again.....we will see how that works out

Cant be much worse than the Ahri that dominated them every game so far.
And they cant use too much bans on Froggen as they need some for Snoopeh, because he is quite easy to target.
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 01 2012 21:29 GMT
#3087
On April 02 2012 06:23 TheKefka wrote:
I still think trundle is the far better option for this comp than maokai.Maokai sapplings are good with this poke comp yea but they don't really do anything later on and don't have the range like kog ult or nida spear damage,so apart from breaking banshes veils they are kinda useless later on.Trundles pillar is just a god disengage skill and lessens the load on Janna.


Part of the genius is in the maokai pick though. Their first 3 picks were Janna, Maokai, Kog. That doesn't signal a poke comp, but just 3 strong picks that can be used in a normal team. That way they can't get counterpicked easily, or if they don't feel comfortable after seeing 4 picks from the enemy team.

If they pick Trundle it pretty much signals a poke comp and the other team can pick accordingly.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:33:32
April 01 2012 21:29 GMT
#3088
CLG aoe comp incoming

edit: maybe
edit: I am so wrong
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 01 2012 21:31 GMT
#3089
Jiji grabbing the dwarf mage!
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 01 2012 21:32 GMT
#3090
JiJi Veigar yaaaaaay^^
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 01 2012 21:34 GMT
#3091
I thought hotshot was going to bust out the flash/tp olaf again. Glad I'm wrong.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:36:20
April 01 2012 21:35 GMT
#3092
Ooh, lane Nocturne smart. I can't see Olaf beating Noct.

CLG outpicked... tis a surprise.
EDIT: o.o I got trolled. they trade again.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 01 2012 21:36 GMT
#3093
What? It's lane Udyr.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 01 2012 21:37 GMT
#3094
TF + Noct combo gonna be real strong =(
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 01 2012 21:50 GMT
#3095
are these casters actually complaining about having to cast this game? o_O
:3
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
April 01 2012 21:54 GMT
#3096
On April 02 2012 06:50 Eiii wrote:
are these casters actually complaining about having to cast this game? o_O


imagine if a sc2 caster was doing this :D
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 01 2012 21:54 GMT
#3097
Dlift actually down in CS as cait vs kog, lol.
Shanba
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:58:00
April 01 2012 21:57 GMT
#3098
What's with the recent trend of playing lane udyr as phoenix udyr? Also, should he really be losing to olaf in lane? Also he has a wriggles?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 01 2012 21:59 GMT
#3099
On April 02 2012 06:54 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 06:50 Eiii wrote:
are these casters actually complaining about having to cast this game? o_O


imagine if a sc2 caster was doing this :D

Remember that hour long TvT between Rain and Boxer at MLG where NOTHING EVER happened?

Casters still sat it out like champs. Day9 only complained about it in the next SotG, never on the mainstage.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
April 01 2012 21:59 GMT
#3100
CLG push mode : ON
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