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On April 02 2012 06:18 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 06:09 GreenManalishi wrote:On April 02 2012 06:04 PartyBiscuit wrote:
CLG is playing pretty badly, they'll probably win, but having a 7-1 tower advantage and managing barely a 1k gold overhead is pretty sad. How is gold differential related to level of play? Have you been watching, CLG has been pushing as 5 for the last 15 minutes, so no time to CS. Gold has come entirely from turrets. CS and gold isn't that important to a poke comp. Of course, but if 4not didn't just outpick themselves with terrible heroes, it would be a different story. Almost always the team going 9-1 in turrets with 3 inhibs down is not going to be the team with a gold deficit. If they still have some lack of gold, there is a major flaw in play going on. Gold can still wins games and if 4Not hadn't lost all 3 inhibs and had a better late game composition, they could still have turned it around.
Then tell us this flaw. Don't just say "there is a major flaw in play going on" and then not elaborate. How should CLG have earned more gold?
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CLG poke comp is really strong. Kept expecting it to go badly with flash ammumu ult but they played it perfectly
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lulz, giving Froggen Anivia again.....we will see how that works out
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On April 02 2012 06:18 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 06:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value.
You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it. Uhh...no? A creep wave is worth about 130 gold. Dragon is 190 gold per person + 25 for the killer. That's 7.5 creep waves. XP is about 270 for a creep wave and is 400 for Dragon. I agree that Dragon is overrated, but throwing around random guesses at gold value that are pretty clearly wrong doesn't advance your case.
Ah my bad. I intended it to mean that for each person who leaves lane it does represent a loss of about a creep wave. I just wasnt clear about it. I.E mid, bot, and even when top leave they lose what is basically a comparable amount of gold. Obviously a single creep wave does not equate to the entirety of dragon, but when you split that 190 into each character, then take into account that they have to leave lane to do it, it becomes less skewed.
The only REAL benefit is that you get gold onto the support, who werent gonna take that wave anyway.
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One thing though is that Trundle advertises you're trying to do the poke comp. I don't remember the pick order for this game, but I'm guessing Maokai was done early on. If they picked Trundle 4not might have picked better to deal with the poke comp.
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On April 02 2012 06:25 sob3k wrote:
lulz, giving Froggen Anivia again.....we will see how that works out
Cant be much worse than the Ahri that dominated them every game so far.
And they cant use too much bans on Froggen as they need some for Snoopeh, because he is quite easy to target.
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On April 02 2012 06:23 TheKefka wrote:
I still think trundle is the far better option for this comp than maokai.Maokai sapplings are good with this poke comp yea but they don't really do anything later on and don't have the range like kog ult or nida spear damage,so apart from breaking banshes veils they are kinda useless later on.Trundles pillar is just a god disengage skill and lessens the load on Janna.
Part of the genius is in the maokai pick though. Their first 3 picks were Janna, Maokai, Kog. That doesn't signal a poke comp, but just 3 strong picks that can be used in a normal team. That way they can't get counterpicked easily, or if they don't feel comfortable after seeing 4 picks from the enemy team.
If they pick Trundle it pretty much signals a poke comp and the other team can pick accordingly.
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CLG aoe comp incoming
edit: maybe
edit: I am so wrong
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Jiji grabbing the dwarf mage!
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I thought hotshot was going to bust out the flash/tp olaf again. Glad I'm wrong.
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Ooh, lane Nocturne smart. I can't see Olaf beating Noct.
CLG outpicked... tis a surprise.
EDIT: o.o I got trolled. they trade again.
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TF + Noct combo gonna be real strong =(
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are these casters actually complaining about having to cast this game? o_O
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On April 02 2012 06:50 Eiii wrote:
are these casters actually complaining about having to cast this game? o_O
imagine if a sc2 caster was doing this :D
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Dlift actually down in CS as cait vs kog, lol.
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What's with the recent trend of playing lane udyr as phoenix udyr? Also, should he really be losing to olaf in lane? Also he has a wriggles?
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On April 02 2012 06:54 TheBJ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 06:50 Eiii wrote:
are these casters actually complaining about having to cast this game? o_O imagine if a sc2 caster was doing this :D
Remember that hour long TvT between Rain and Boxer at MLG where NOTHING EVER happened?
Casters still sat it out like champs. Day9 only complained about it in the next SotG, never on the mainstage.
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