• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:23
CET 19:23
KST 03:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview9Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Hager werken embalming powder+27 81 711 1572
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1324 users

[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 157

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 155 156 157 158 159 339 Next
Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:18:27
April 01 2012 22:16 GMT
#3121
Love the clg picks

-4not first picks udyr, so chauster takes galio and hard counters himself
-4not gets kog, so double plays cait (just because she's your best char doesn't mean you should pick her)
-jiji playing veigar with 200 ping, doesn't hit a stun combo all game
-last pick olaf, because hotshot doens't have any champs left
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
April 01 2012 22:16 GMT
#3122
I gotta wonder why they chose Veigar with high ping. You can see that JiJi's event horizon is just a bit off every time.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 01 2012 22:16 GMT
#3123
stream died gg
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 01 2012 22:17 GMT
#3124
On April 02 2012 07:15 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 07:05 iCanada wrote:
I dont understand these casters...

CLG runs a poke comp effectively and it boring, no one kill snaything...

4not does same thing in game three and they are "doing a good job keeping control of the game."

lolwut?

eh I wouldn't exactly call 4not's comp a poke comp...

that being said chau's galio pick got hella hard countered. galio's basically dead weight atm...


Not really a poke comp, however they definitely out poke CLG... Highest range ability is Kog ulti, followed by TF cards, followed by Nocturne Q.... with Saints Sapling being the biggest poke CLG has which while not low range is kinda low damage.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:18:02
April 01 2012 22:17 GMT
#3125
On April 02 2012 07:15 Navi wrote:
these commentators are horrible in game knowledge, skill at casting, cohesion, etc
i would rarely bash people trying to cast earnestly but its just so offputting lol


And while they're screwing up, they continue to bash CLG every 10 seconds.

And now stream is dead
can i get my estro logo back pls
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 01 2012 22:17 GMT
#3126
stream failing.... clg not looking good
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 01 2012 22:17 GMT
#3127
On April 02 2012 07:16 nojitosunrise wrote:
gg stream die?

yup
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 01 2012 22:18 GMT
#3128
winner plays TSM?
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:19:27
April 01 2012 22:18 GMT
#3129
On April 02 2012 07:16 nojitosunrise wrote:
gg stream die?


same here -.-

good timing since it seems the game is going full action blast hero (listening to hotshot team speak transmission).
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 01 2012 22:18 GMT
#3130
Seems like owned died all together,I can't get a single stream to work.
Cackle™
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17275 Posts
April 01 2012 22:19 GMT
#3131
Own3d is down (again).
twitch.tv/cratonz
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
April 01 2012 22:20 GMT
#3132
At least the commercials still work ><
Only the dead have seen the end of war
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:21:27
April 01 2012 22:21 GMT
#3133
it's up for me now
own3d that is
not the stream
can i get my estro logo back pls
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:24:44
April 01 2012 22:21 GMT
#3134
Mmmm wonder if there's some issues in connections between states and eu, I had problems opening US based websites.

own3d died totally, twitch works though.

scarra is live, voyboy on corki deep in enemy jungle, gets hit by

udyr bear
followed by shen taunt
followed by heimer grenade stun
followed by mao W

lol, talk about frustrating death, slowly being beaten down, CCed for every single moment of it.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 01 2012 22:23 GMT
#3135
On April 02 2012 06:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value.

You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it.



but you fight in lane over creeps, denying cs and trying to push people away from gold. you wouldnt say, na fuck it.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:27:07
April 01 2012 22:26 GMT
#3136
On April 02 2012 07:23 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 06:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value.

You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it.



but you fight in lane over creeps, denying cs and trying to push people away from gold. you wouldnt say, na fuck it.


How many times have you seen teams contest early dragons when they shouldn't, and end up losing dragon, 2-3 deaths, and a tower or two as a result? It's the same reason you would rather let an outer turret fall than send 2 people to defend vs 4 that are pushing it down.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
April 01 2012 22:28 GMT
#3137
On April 02 2012 07:23 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 06:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value.

You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it.



but you fight in lane over creeps, denying cs and trying to push people away from gold. you wouldnt say, na fuck it.


That's exactly what not going for dragon does. They go for dragon, you shove lane to tower. You deny them of cs and push them away from gold. Especially top, do you know how much gold top loses if they go down to get dragon?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 01 2012 22:37 GMT
#3138
yeah, Froggen ends game 10-2-11

DONT GIVE FROGGEN ANIVIA
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 01 2012 22:39 GMT
#3139
On April 02 2012 07:28 OreoBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 07:23 turdburgler wrote:
On April 02 2012 06:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value.

You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it.



but you fight in lane over creeps, denying cs and trying to push people away from gold. you wouldnt say, na fuck it.


That's exactly what not going for dragon does. They go for dragon, you shove lane to tower. You deny them of cs and push them away from gold. Especially top, do you know how much gold top loses if they go down to get dragon?

If you don't contest drag at all, no top with half a brain would leave his lane.
Like, against CLG no top left for dragon for a while now, because they know they'll get it for free anyways. And that's just stupid. Mid and the AD carry will not lose more in lane than what they get with dragon, jungler gets a bit ahead in farm, top gets WAY ahead and gold on supports is not as important, but still nice.

CLG should at least THREATEN a contest sometimes, they get themselves behind for no reason, and the opponents don't even have to sacrifice that much.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:42:23
April 01 2012 22:41 GMT
#3140
Really great series between CLGeu and aaa.
CLG won 2-1, 3rd game took an hour. Grats to them, won 1000 $.

I love how close the competition at the top of the EU scene is, makes for exciting games.

Dont know why everyone watched these CLGna games instead though.

Off-season = best season
Prev 1 155 156 157 158 159 339 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
12:00
Day 1
TaKeTV3434
ComeBackTV 998
IndyStarCraft 540
SteadfastSC474
TaKeSeN 336
Rex112
3DClanTV 96
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 540
SteadfastSC 474
Rex 112
BRAT_OK 97
MindelVK 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 1427
Bisu 1202
Shuttle 925
Jaedong 675
EffOrt 381
firebathero 178
Mini 174
actioN 167
Sharp 94
ggaemo 93
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 85
Mong 46
Dewaltoss 45
910 21
Shine 18
HiyA 11
ivOry 6
Dota 2
Gorgc5624
qojqva2103
420jenkins543
League of Legends
C9.Mang073
Counter-Strike
fl0m3955
Other Games
gofns10919
FrodaN3449
Grubby2296
hiko700
Beastyqt551
DeMusliM207
QueenE130
KnowMe118
ArmadaUGS101
ToD96
ViBE82
Trikslyr57
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix17
• Michael_bg 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2680
• WagamamaTV457
League of Legends
• TFBlade1616
• imaqtpie776
• Shiphtur172
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
8h 38m
HomeStory Cup
17h 38m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
HomeStory Cup
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-29
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.