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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 02 2012 06:07 little fancy wrote: Iirc, CLG first picked Janna, so 4not more or less outpicked themselves if you look at it this way  Technically, it's the first time I've seen somebody pick even worse than CLG, yea. But that sounds too negative. Gotta be nice sometimes. | ||
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
On April 02 2012 06:04 PartyBiscuit wrote: CLG is playing pretty badly, they'll probably win, but having a 7-1 tower advantage and managing barely a 1k gold overhead is pretty sad. How is gold differential related to level of play? Have you been watching, CLG has been pushing as 5 for the last 15 minutes, so no time to CS. Gold has come entirely from turrets. CS and gold isn't that important to a poke comp. | ||
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it. | ||
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
edit: that baron might win them tho :D nice bait by hsgg tele | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
https://twitter.com/#!/dignitasDyrus | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On April 02 2012 06:09 GreenManalishi wrote: How is gold differential related to level of play? Have you been watching, CLG has been pushing as 5 for the last 15 minutes, so no time to CS. Gold has come entirely from turrets. CS and gold isn't that important to a poke comp. Of course, but if 4not didn't just outpick themselves with terrible heroes, it would be a different story. Almost always the team going 9-1 in turrets with 3 inhibs down is not going to be the team with a gold deficit. If they still have some lack of gold, there is a major flaw in play going on. Gold can still wins games and if 4Not hadn't lost all 3 inhibs and had a better late game composition, they could still have turned it around. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 02 2012 06:10 Two_DoWn wrote: Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value. You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it. Uhh...no? A creep wave is worth about 130 gold. Dragon is 190 gold per person + 25 for the killer. That's 7.5 creep waves. XP is about 270 for a creep wave and is 400 for Dragon. I agree that Dragon is overrated, but throwing around random guesses at gold value that are pretty clearly wrong doesn't advance your case. | ||
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Craton
United States17271 Posts
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On April 02 2012 06:18 PartyBiscuit wrote: Of course, but if 4not didn't just outpick themselves with terrible heroes, it would be a different story. Almost always the team going 9-1 in turrets with 3 inhibs down is not going to be the team with a gold deficit. If they still have some lack of gold, there is a major flaw in play going on. Gold can still wins games and if 4Not hadn't lost all 3 inhibs and had a better late game composition, they could still have turned it around. But that isn't how this strategy works at all. They don't need more gold, they just need to not lose lane so hard that the enemy team gets fed. They just played really safe lanes and got CS. They played crazy passive even with Maokai jungler until right around the 22 minute mark where they grouped up and started pushing down lanes. That's how their strategy works for poke comp. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On April 02 2012 06:19 nojitosunrise wrote: CLG wins despite losing in kills and gold. "It doesn't matter if we can never win a teamfight, if we never teamfight." -Words of wisdom from SaintVicious, Volume 12 | ||
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banana
Netherlands1189 Posts
Painfull to watch. | ||
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Innuendo
Belgium616 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On April 02 2012 06:20 Slow Motion wrote: The commentators sound so freaking bored and annoyed lol. I actually love watching CLG poke comps though because things are always tense and can go wrong with one mistake. That's quite true. Played right, there's very little you can do against a properly played poke comp. However, there's so many things that can go wrong playing the poke comp. One bad teamfight and the game is generally over. They need to keep disengaging correctly, while the other team being poked on needs to commit like there's no tomorrow. Everything on a razor's edge. | ||
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