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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 01 2012 21:09 GMT
#3061
On April 02 2012 06:07 little fancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 06:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
With Janna on CLG and 4not running a AoE comp, I think this is the first time I've ever seen CLG outpick somebody, ever.



Iirc, CLG first picked Janna, so 4not more or less outpicked themselves if you look at it this way

Technically, it's the first time I've seen somebody pick even worse than CLG, yea.

But that sounds too negative. Gotta be nice sometimes.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
April 01 2012 21:09 GMT
#3062
On April 02 2012 06:04 PartyBiscuit wrote:
CLG is playing pretty badly, they'll probably win, but having a 7-1 tower advantage and managing barely a 1k gold overhead is pretty sad.


How is gold differential related to level of play? Have you been watching, CLG has been pushing as 5 for the last 15 minutes, so no time to CS. Gold has come entirely from turrets.

CS and gold isn't that important to a poke comp.
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
April 01 2012 21:10 GMT
#3063
Are the casters stoned?
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 01 2012 21:10 GMT
#3064
Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value.

You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:18:28
April 01 2012 21:15 GMT
#3065
4not actually won ROFL

edit: that baron might win them tho :D nice bait by hsgg tele
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 01 2012 21:16 GMT
#3066
Oh and a random april fools thing. Scarra changed his twitter account to look exactly like Dyrus except it's @dignitasDyrus. I was wondering how I was already subscribed to the fake Dyrus didn't realize Scarra changed his account to do so.

https://twitter.com/#!/dignitasDyrus
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
April 01 2012 21:18 GMT
#3067
On April 02 2012 06:09 GreenManalishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 06:04 PartyBiscuit wrote:
CLG is playing pretty badly, they'll probably win, but having a 7-1 tower advantage and managing barely a 1k gold overhead is pretty sad.


How is gold differential related to level of play? Have you been watching, CLG has been pushing as 5 for the last 15 minutes, so no time to CS. Gold has come entirely from turrets.

CS and gold isn't that important to a poke comp.

Of course, but if 4not didn't just outpick themselves with terrible heroes, it would be a different story. Almost always the team going 9-1 in turrets with 3 inhibs down is not going to be the team with a gold deficit. If they still have some lack of gold, there is a major flaw in play going on. Gold can still wins games and if 4Not hadn't lost all 3 inhibs and had a better late game composition, they could still have turned it around.
the farm ends here
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
April 01 2012 21:18 GMT
#3068
ammumu or yorick need to man up and get in there to initiate.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:18:45
April 01 2012 21:18 GMT
#3069
On April 02 2012 06:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Meh dragon is highly overrated, especially when you consider the risk/reward. It just doesnt give you that much. Free dragons are great, but fighting over it is typically terrible, especially when you consider that a single creep wave essentially has the same gold value as dragon, and IRRC a greater EXP value.

You cant win by getting dragons, but you sure as hell can lose the game by doing it.

Uhh...no?

A creep wave is worth about 130 gold. Dragon is 190 gold per person + 25 for the killer. That's 7.5 creep waves.

XP is about 270 for a creep wave and is 400 for Dragon.

I agree that Dragon is overrated, but throwing around random guesses at gold value that are pretty clearly wrong doesn't advance your case.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17295 Posts
April 01 2012 21:19 GMT
#3070
I'd want to punch a hole in the wall after dealing with a comp this obnoxious for this long.
twitch.tv/cratonz
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
April 01 2012 21:19 GMT
#3071
CLG wins despite losing in kills and gold.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
April 01 2012 21:20 GMT
#3072
The commentators sound so freaking bored and annoyed lol. I actually love watching CLG poke comps though because things are always tense and can go wrong with one mistake.
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
April 01 2012 21:20 GMT
#3073
If they contested baron they would have won ;/
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 01 2012 21:21 GMT
#3074
On April 02 2012 06:18 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 06:09 GreenManalishi wrote:
On April 02 2012 06:04 PartyBiscuit wrote:
CLG is playing pretty badly, they'll probably win, but having a 7-1 tower advantage and managing barely a 1k gold overhead is pretty sad.


How is gold differential related to level of play? Have you been watching, CLG has been pushing as 5 for the last 15 minutes, so no time to CS. Gold has come entirely from turrets.

CS and gold isn't that important to a poke comp.

Of course, but if 4not didn't just outpick themselves with terrible heroes, it would be a different story. Almost always the team going 9-1 in turrets with 3 inhibs down is not going to be the team with a gold deficit. If they still have some lack of gold, there is a major flaw in play going on. Gold can still wins games and if 4Not hadn't lost all 3 inhibs and had a better late game composition, they could still have turned it around.


But that isn't how this strategy works at all. They don't need more gold, they just need to not lose lane so hard that the enemy team gets fed. They just played really safe lanes and got CS. They played crazy passive even with Maokai jungler until right around the 22 minute mark where they grouped up and started pushing down lanes. That's how their strategy works for poke comp.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 01 2012 21:21 GMT
#3075
Gotta agree with Dan there. Comp real homo.
God Bless
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 01 2012 21:21 GMT
#3076
On April 02 2012 06:19 nojitosunrise wrote:
CLG wins despite losing in kills and gold.

"It doesn't matter if we can never win a teamfight, if we never teamfight."
-Words of wisdom from SaintVicious, Volume 12
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
April 01 2012 21:21 GMT
#3077
AP kog protected by a wall of disengages and extra pokes *shudders*

Painfull to watch.
Innuendo
Profile Joined June 2007
Belgium616 Posts
April 01 2012 21:22 GMT
#3078
CLG shows their poke comp, like hasn't been seen in months (atleast not executed this well). Casters only complaining about how boring they think it is. -_-
Bisu fan, may the revolutionist return
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:26:54
April 01 2012 21:23 GMT
#3079
I still think trundle is the far better option for this comp than maokai.Maokai sapplings are good with this poke comp yea but they don't really do anything later on and don't have the range like kog ult or nida spear damage,so apart from breaking banshes veils they are kinda useless later on.Trundles pillar is just a god disengage skill and lessens the load on Janna.
Cackle™
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 01 2012 21:23 GMT
#3080
On April 02 2012 06:20 Slow Motion wrote:
The commentators sound so freaking bored and annoyed lol. I actually love watching CLG poke comps though because things are always tense and can go wrong with one mistake.

That's quite true. Played right, there's very little you can do against a properly played poke comp. However, there's so many things that can go wrong playing the poke comp. One bad teamfight and the game is generally over. They need to keep disengaging correctly, while the other team being poked on needs to commit like there's no tomorrow. Everything on a razor's edge.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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