[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 152

On April 02 2012 03:59 barbsq wrote:


aw fuck, i feel like an idiot

On April 02 2012 04:48 Ryuu314 wrote:

is it just me or is the stream choppy?

On April 02 2012 05:08 Craton wrote:
God SV played those teamfights horrendously. So many really awful initiates where the team couldn't follow up.

On April 02 2012 05:03 randomKo_Orean wrote:

wait wat?

And I never realized karma was... sexy?

On April 02 2012 05:25 overt wrote:
Oh god, CLG running poke comp with jiji on AP Kog. Here's to hoping he learned how to play AP Kog since moving to Korea.

On April 02 2012 04:06 overt wrote:
Yes, there are lots of female characters who are made to look sexy. But there are plenty who aren't such as Lux or Ashe or Leona. At the same time there are tons of male characters in this game designed to look sexy. To bring up other games is pretty pointless because this is the LoL sub-forums but to humor you I don't think it's wrong for game devs to have overly buff males nor do I think it's wrong for them to have women with huge breasts. These aren't sexist nor are they portraying an image of beauty that "real people just can't achieve." They are devices that developer's use to portray a character as physically attractive and it's a lot easier than making you find their personality attractive, especially in a game that has no real story like LoL or that's incredibly short such as a fighting game.

On April 02 2012 05:26 aRyuujin wrote:


I thought jiji was always good on ap kog O_o

On April 02 2012 05:25 overt wrote:
Oh god, CLG running poke comp with jiji on AP Kog. Here's to hoping he learned how to play AP Kog since moving to Korea.

On April 02 2012 03:50 barbsq wrote:
people that have a problem with hyper-sexualized women in league somehow conveniently forget the existence of fiora, karma, leona, lux, orianna, riven and vayne (sans valentine skin).

AND MOTHAFUCKIN KAYLE

On April 02 2012 05:26 phyvo wrote:


While some of what you say is true, Riot artists themselves have stated that the design space for men is a lot more flexible than the design space for women. Even for the non-sexy female characters Riot does everything they can to emphasize how womanly they are, especially for later champions (boob breastplate, high heels). To some extent it's simply more acceptable to have male Gragas than female Gragas. Riot has admitted as much.

Since woman characters need to look more "womanly", that basically means they need to look more like the ideal woman than the men need to look like ideal men, as a result greater visual demands are placed on the women. While it's arguable that there's parity in gender expectations it isn't necessarily visual parity and video games are a visual medium.

It's also pretty easy to point to plenty of movements on the forums pretty much bent on making characters more "womanly": teen Annie, bunny Riven, human Anivia, non-helmeted Kayle, and catgirl EZ are the most popular that I can currently remember. Even without forum help several of Riot's own skins ideas are basically sex symbols: Jessica Rabbit MF, Officer Caitlyn, and Vayne steadily lost clothing with Dragonslayer and then Valentine's Day. While there has been the occasional thread for more man-candy the idea simply hasn't been popular, and Riot has never released a "Schwarzenegger" Gragas or Ezreal skin of their own accord or appear to do much to make their ideal men more sexy. The few skins that do show a lot of muscular man flesh are relatively few and far between and none have been connected with forum demands like bunny Riven or helmetless Kayle.

I don't really think Ashe belongs in a group with Lux and Leona. Have you actually looked at non-queen Ashe lately? She's like Kat: tiny pants, bra strap, big boots. Queen Ashe itself, I'm pretty sure, is the only female skin in the game (out of a hundred) which increases the character's "modesty". Besides, there's been requests for sexy Leona too (though not nearly as
popular as the other threads I mentioned).

Honestly I'm not that mad at Riot for it in particular. I'm dissatisfied with culture as a whole. But that, as you said, is beyond the scope of this thread.