EPT[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 193
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
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UniversalSnip
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Gimme SOMETHING back if your gonna nerf wriggles. ANYTHING. User was warned for this post | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
edit: Although you could always pick up a lifesteal quint to make up for the change if it's a big deal. I don't think the lifesteal quints are worth the AD you lose though. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
Now I don't have the numbers in front of me, and it's certainly not a catchall as there are some champions without inherit sustain that get it from not-wriggles(Philo Stone, or just spamming pots through lane phase), but it certainly does seem a bit odd as an overarching general change. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
why can't they just make brutalizer also build into something decent for non-melee/attack speed champs? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I really wonder how much armor and mres they need for it to be equal... Hmm it was 65 and 25% of bonus ad and ap so even with no ad or ap it was worth like 3500 gold in resources... To get 3500 gold worth of resistances you would need to make the ulti give... about 120 armor and magic resist? Yeah... Jax nerf. | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
Nhat is playing LuLu | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:16 Two_DoWn wrote: Morello: Go fuck yourself. Gimme SOMETHING back if your gonna nerf wriggles. ANYTHING. i seriously doubt that nerfing wriggles lifesteal will have much if any effect on jungling. As it is, when you buy wriggles, you simply never get even remotely close to dying in the jungle. Not to mention there's no mention of any changes to its dmg, so it won't affect clear speed. The only thing it might affect is some champs ability to solo drag, which isn't that big of a deal tbh, kus you usually want ur team to help you anyways. Ofc, this is purely speculation, but if they only touch lifesteal, and only by a bit, then it shouldn't affect jungle at all. edit: typo | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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danana
United States321 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:06 Shikyo wrote: Who would play her as a support lol I don't see why you guys are dismissing support Lulu so easily o_O like what makes a Lulu lane any weaker than a Janna lane? it depends on the numbers but lulu seems capable of doing just about everything Janna does. (not necessarily disagreeing, because you're probably much better than me, but I just don't understand the problem...) also, I don't see why lulu's ult would be affected by ignite. my understanding was that it increases the health stat, like a feast stack, rather than being an actual heal. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:38 Shikyo wrote: Another thing: Kennen currently is almost impossible to do anything about solo top, and it's very difficult to outsustain his harrass with anything. Now they just nerfed every single bruiser... Can kennen NOT win a toplane now? ban. =) on a more serious note, we'll just have to see how everything plays out, even if i agree with you >_> | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:35 Shikyo wrote: Btw guys. Jax dealt 0 dmg before -> Better nerf his damage. I really wonder how much armor and mres they need for it to be equal... Hmm it was 65 and 25% of bonus ad and ap so even with no ad or ap it was worth like 3500 gold in resources... To get 3500 gold worth of resistances you would need to make the ulti give... about 120 armor and magic resist? Yeah... Jax nerf. o shit I forgot about that yeah im not pleased about that change :<. I've played dozens of jax games over past few weeks and I really like him. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:38 Shikyo wrote: Another thing: Kennen currently is almost impossible to do anything about solo top, and it's very difficult to outsustain his harrass with anything. Now they just nerfed every single bruiser... Can kennen NOT win a toplane now? i trashed a kennen with swain @ top lane. Dunno how much a single game matters in that regard tho. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:35 barbsq wrote: i seriously doubt that nerfing wriggles lifesteal will have much if any effect on jungling. As it is, when you buy wriggles, you simply never get even remotely close to dying in the jungle. Not to mention there's no mention of any changes to its dmg, so it won't affect clear speed. The only thing it might affect is some champs ability to solo drag, which isn't that big of a deal tbh, kus you usually want ur team to help you anyways. Ofc, this is purely speculation, but if they only touch lifesteal, and only by a bit, then it shouldn't affect jungle at all. edit: typo Its just a matter of CONSTANT nerfs, with absolutely no regard for how this will effect jungling. Sure, you probably wont start dying now, but it is gonna make you lower health than you were at all phases of the game, which is a huge nerf to the overall effectiveness of a jungler. There is a huge difference between 90% health and 80% health, for example. At least give us the 500 damage proc back T_T. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:47 Two_DoWn wrote: Its just a matter of CONSTANT nerfs, with absolutely no regard for how this will effect jungling. Sure, you probably wont start dying now, but it is gonna make you lower health than you were at all phases of the game, which is a huge nerf to the overall effectiveness of a jungler. At least give us the 500 damage proc back T_T. I'm annoyed just because life steal is more important on AD carries than it is on junglers but AD's didn't actually get nerfed because bloodthirster stacks no longer all go away. | ||
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Zhiroo
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