EPT[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 192
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Two_DoWn
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:48 BlackPaladin wrote: Janna is the same way but that doesn't mean she doesn't make a good 0 cs support. ;o lulu seems to have a lot of utility and none of it needs farm. the difference is that janna has so much more utility that doesn't require farm. she has an aoe knockup, a slow, a shield/steroid, an aoe heal/knockback. in terms of steroids, lulu has a slow, a silence/disarm, a shield/slow, and an aoe slow/health buff. lulu has a ton of slows, but outside of whimsy, she really doesn't bring nearly as much cc. iunno, i just can't see myself picking her over janna/ali/sona/soraka when i want a support champ. iunno, from what it looks, it just doesn't seem that lulu will be up to par with other supports when played with 0 cs the same way zilean/oriana is a crappy support with 0 cs. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Talking about the passive... who cares about the shield? God. | ||
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CeriseCherries
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:53 Ryuu314 wrote: the difference is that janna has so much more utility that doesn't require farm. she has an aoe knockup, a slow, a shield/steroid, an aoe heal/knockback. in terms of steroids, lulu has a slow, a silence/disarm, a shield/slow, and an aoe slow/health buff. lulu has a ton of slows, but outside of whimsy, she really doesn't bring nearly as much cc. iunno, i just can't see myself picking her over janna/ali/sona/soraka when i want a support champ. iunno, from what it looks, it just doesn't seem that lulu will be up to par with other supports when played with 0 cs the same way zilean/oriana is a crappy support with 0 cs. Lulu's ult onto a bruiser seems like a really strong initiation. Not to mention her shield is also a massive attack buff on an AD carry. Like, more damage than Janna shield. Sona/Soraka are super boring, Lulu definitely seems better than both of them outside of lane phase. Just have to see if her laning is strong enough to compete with other supports. | ||
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warscythes
365 Posts
I don't know how am I suppose to get passive instead of shield out of it? o.O | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 17 2012 10:57 overt wrote: Lulu's ult onto a bruiser seems like a really strong initiation. Not to mention her shield is also a massive attack buff on an AD carry. Like, more damage than Janna shield. Sona/Soraka are super boring, Lulu definitely seems better than both of them outside of lane phase. Just have to see if her laning is strong enough to compete with other supports. the aoe on the ulti isn't really all that big. it's not going to be good initiation unless your bruiser is already in the middle of the enemy team in which case it's not an initiate. Her shield has better uptime than Janna shield, but the steroid may not be better considering how Pix's autos can be blocked. She has no sustain so she can't compete with Sona/Soraka in that aspect. She fits in Ali/Janna's niche, in which case she's inferior. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Preview up | ||
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rob.au
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Slusher
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:03 rob.au wrote: I hope when they nerf that champ that they nerf the carry potential rather than the utility so they can be a fun support for once. i maintain that with that kit, she's never going to be able to compete with janna/ali/sona/soraka. only 1 hard cc and no sustain doesn't make for a good support imoimo. her ult looks strong, but i don't think it's enough to justify picking her as a support. @Shikyo: it's 0.5 ratio on ult | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:06 Ryuu314 wrote: i maintain that with that kit, she's never going to be able to compete with janna/ali/sona/soraka. only 1 hard cc and no sustain doesn't make for a good support imoimo. her ult looks strong, but i don't think it's enough to justify picking her as a support. Who would play her as a support lol On March 17 2012 11:06 Ryuu314 wrote: i maintain that with that kit, she's never going to be able to compete with janna/ali/sona/soraka. only 1 hard cc and no sustain doesn't make for a good support imoimo. her ult looks strong, but i don't think it's enough to justify picking her as a support. @Shikyo: it's 0.5 ratio on ult How's it 0.5 if nhat had 94 and it had +63 or something =S | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Rammus nerfs Shaco early nerfs but late buffs, Jax ult change, Irellia nerfs, Lifesteal item nerfs, BT only loses half stacks on death rather than full | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
-.- I build wriggles on like everything. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:10 red_ wrote: That Jax change sounds like the worst idea ever. Unless the scaling is really low, that is seriously the most retarded thing I have ever heard. honestly it just feels like Riot realized the Jax remake was a terrible idea and are furiously backpedaling/trying to fix shit by throwing random shit at Jax and hoping it works. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Hey speedclearers are a huge problem and are rendering ganky junglers useless Hmmmm better nerf irelia | ||
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