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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:54 Qualm wrote: Riot keeps pushing Shaco out of high skill-cap and fun AP builds into shitty, easy and frustrating to play against ad builds.  Ya I read that Shaco as a straight buff. Will be interesting to see what the actual numbers turn out to be. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR. Feeeeels gooooood. is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
to be fair though, a full class cannon build could be worth about 150 of each defensive stat. plus the flat bonus and base. could be real tanky for a few seconds. the real question is whether this will seperate the good jaxes from the great jaxes | ||
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Qualm
721 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote: unsourced riot forums post is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage. That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
Oh man, it's so cute. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote: That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives. You think that's substantial when it used to give 3500+ gold worth of stats? Rofl. | ||
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote: That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives. Not really compared to the amount of stats it currently gives. Total value of stats => nerf. Right now it gives 3.5k+, 45/45 + small scaling is worth like 2k. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
Also, "Burst Defense" as a steroid is really, really weak. It works on Rammus/Leona/Galio et all because the cooldown is short and lines up with enemy burst cooldowns. When it's a 1-2 minute ult it's really bad. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 17 2012 12:04 GreenManalishi wrote: Not really compared to the amount of stats it currently gives. Total value of stats => nerf. Right now it gives 3.5k+, 45/45 + small scaling is worth like 2k. You can't just compare it in a vacuum like that. If he got some ridiculous scaling of defensive stats from building pure offense he'd be... oh wait he'd be old permaban Jax. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 17 2012 12:08 red_ wrote: You can't just compare it in a vacuum like that. If he got some ridiculous scaling of defensive stats from building pure offense he'd be... oh wait he'd be old permaban Jax. You call that permaban? o_O Serious? | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
he's talking about the interaction of passively gaining defensive stats while building offense. It's the primary reason jax has had such an awful time being balanced. You can't just compare +ad scaling off of +ad to +hp or armor scaling with +ad with pure gold values. that said, i do find this change... underwhelming to say the least. If not from a numbers perspective then by a design perspective. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
2. boooooooooo lifesteal was fine the way it was... i dont know if anyone was going like "geez you know whats game breaking? life steal on wriggles"... it was good but it was tolerable. does riot like want no sustain ever? health pot + healing spells + spell vamp + life steal all nerf... | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On March 17 2012 12:13 Terranasaur wrote: Ya. Jax remake is teh sucks. What happened to always kill, never die? Did people really find Jax's current ult interesting? Don't see why people are getting worked up about them redoing one of the most boring skills in the game. He is already only a mediocre (at best) champ so I am up for anythign that would make him better. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On March 17 2012 12:15 CeriseCherries wrote: 1. lol nerf irelia 2. boooooooooo lifesteal was fine the way it was... i dont know if anyone was going like "geez you know whats game breaking? life steal on wriggles"... it was good but it was tolerable. does riot like want no sustain ever? health pot + healing spells + spell vamp + life steal all nerf... Probablem with such a cheap, efficient life steal item is that top lane becomes the most stale lane ever once both sides get wriggles. Always warded, always full hp. I think they should have nerfed the ward cooldown in addition to the lifesteal. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
You don't think Jax has ever been permaban status or something? It's not like I referenced a specific patch. But getting 120 armor+mr on his ult would be pretty fucking silly yes. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On March 17 2012 12:17 petered wrote: Did people really find Jax's current ult interesting? Don't see why people are getting worked up about them redoing one of the most boring skills in the game. He is already only a mediocre (at best) champ so I am up for anythign that would make him better. To be honest, I'm annoyed because I spent forever figuring him out and actually do now feel that he's quite good. I don't mind them replacing his R with something more interesting (although this... doesn't seem more interesting) but just making him worse is very strange to me. His teamfight strength was there, it's just that his builds were not obvious. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
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