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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 17 2012 02:55 GMT
#3861
On March 17 2012 11:54 Qualm wrote:
Riot keeps pushing Shaco out of high skill-cap and fun AP builds into shitty, easy and frustrating to play against ad builds.

Ya I read that Shaco as a straight buff. Will be interesting to see what the actual numbers turn out to be.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 02:57:15
March 17 2012 02:56 GMT
#3862
unsourced riot forums post

25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood.


is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 03:03:43
March 17 2012 02:58 GMT
#3863
deathcap would be worth 30 mr lol

to be fair though, a full class cannon build could be worth about 150 of each defensive stat. plus the flat bonus and base. could be real tanky for a few seconds.

the real question is whether this will seperate the good jaxes from the great jaxes
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
March 17 2012 02:58 GMT
#3864
On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
unsourced riot forums post

Show nested quote +
25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood.


is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage.


That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
March 17 2012 03:00 GMT
#3865
THAT CUPCAKE!
Oh man, it's so cute.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 17 2012 03:02 GMT
#3866
On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
unsourced riot forums post

25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood.


is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage.


That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives.

You think that's substantial when it used to give 3500+ gold worth of stats?

Rofl.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
March 17 2012 03:04 GMT
#3867
On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
unsourced riot forums post

25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood.


is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage.


That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives.


Not really compared to the amount of stats it currently gives. Total value of stats => nerf. Right now it gives 3.5k+, 45/45 + small scaling is worth like 2k.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 03:09:29
March 17 2012 03:08 GMT
#3868
I don't really get why Riot is so obsessed with turning every melee steroid ult into a boring +Armor/MR. First Olaf, now Jax. It's utterly uninteresting.

Also, "Burst Defense" as a steroid is really, really weak. It works on Rammus/Leona/Galio et all because the cooldown is short and lines up with enemy burst cooldowns. When it's a 1-2 minute ult it's really bad.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 17 2012 03:08 GMT
#3869
On March 17 2012 12:04 GreenManalishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
unsourced riot forums post

25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood.


is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage.


That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives.


Not really compared to the amount of stats it currently gives. Total value of stats => nerf. Right now it gives 3.5k+, 45/45 + small scaling is worth like 2k.


You can't just compare it in a vacuum like that. If he got some ridiculous scaling of defensive stats from building pure offense he'd be... oh wait he'd be old permaban Jax.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 17 2012 03:09 GMT
#3870
On March 17 2012 12:08 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 12:04 GreenManalishi wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
unsourced riot forums post

25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood.


is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage.


That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives.


Not really compared to the amount of stats it currently gives. Total value of stats => nerf. Right now it gives 3.5k+, 45/45 + small scaling is worth like 2k.


You can't just compare it in a vacuum like that. If he got some ridiculous scaling of defensive stats from building pure offense he'd be... oh wait he'd be old permaban Jax.

You call that permaban? o_O Serious?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 03:13:30
March 17 2012 03:12 GMT
#3871
On March 17 2012 12:09 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 12:08 red_ wrote:
On March 17 2012 12:04 GreenManalishi wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
unsourced riot forums post

25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood.


is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage.


That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives.


Not really compared to the amount of stats it currently gives. Total value of stats => nerf. Right now it gives 3.5k+, 45/45 + small scaling is worth like 2k.


You can't just compare it in a vacuum like that. If he got some ridiculous scaling of defensive stats from building pure offense he'd be... oh wait he'd be old permaban Jax.

You call that permaban? o_O Serious?


he's talking about the interaction of passively gaining defensive stats while building offense. It's the primary reason jax has had such an awful time being balanced. You can't just compare +ad scaling off of +ad to +hp or armor scaling with +ad with pure gold values.

that said, i do find this change... underwhelming to say the least. If not from a numbers perspective then by a design perspective.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
March 17 2012 03:13 GMT
#3872
Ya. Jax remake is teh sucks. What happened to always kill, never die?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
March 17 2012 03:15 GMT
#3873
1. lol nerf irelia
2. boooooooooo lifesteal was fine the way it was... i dont know if anyone was going like "geez you know whats game breaking? life steal on wriggles"... it was good but it was tolerable. does riot like want no sustain ever? health pot + healing spells + spell vamp + life steal all nerf...
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
March 17 2012 03:17 GMT
#3874
On March 17 2012 12:13 Terranasaur wrote:
Ya. Jax remake is teh sucks. What happened to always kill, never die?


Did people really find Jax's current ult interesting? Don't see why people are getting worked up about them redoing one of the most boring skills in the game. He is already only a mediocre (at best) champ so I am up for anythign that would make him better.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 03:21:55
March 17 2012 03:19 GMT
#3875
On March 17 2012 12:15 CeriseCherries wrote:
1. lol nerf irelia
2. boooooooooo lifesteal was fine the way it was... i dont know if anyone was going like "geez you know whats game breaking? life steal on wriggles"... it was good but it was tolerable. does riot like want no sustain ever? health pot + healing spells + spell vamp + life steal all nerf...



Probablem with such a cheap, efficient life steal item is that top lane becomes the most stale lane ever once both sides get wriggles. Always warded, always full hp. I think they should have nerfed the ward cooldown in addition to the lifesteal.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 17 2012 03:20 GMT
#3876
On March 17 2012 12:09 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 12:08 red_ wrote:
On March 17 2012 12:04 GreenManalishi wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
unsourced riot forums post

25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood.


is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage.


That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives.


Not really compared to the amount of stats it currently gives. Total value of stats => nerf. Right now it gives 3.5k+, 45/45 + small scaling is worth like 2k.


You can't just compare it in a vacuum like that. If he got some ridiculous scaling of defensive stats from building pure offense he'd be... oh wait he'd be old permaban Jax.

You call that permaban? o_O Serious?


You don't think Jax has ever been permaban status or something? It's not like I referenced a specific patch. But getting 120 armor+mr on his ult would be pretty fucking silly yes.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
March 17 2012 03:23 GMT
#3877
You guys were saying how outrageous Jax's ult was in giving 3500+ gold worth of stats when it first came out and now you're complaining when his new ult is worth a lot less?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 17 2012 03:25 GMT
#3878
On March 17 2012 12:17 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 12:13 Terranasaur wrote:
Ya. Jax remake is teh sucks. What happened to always kill, never die?


Did people really find Jax's current ult interesting? Don't see why people are getting worked up about them redoing one of the most boring skills in the game. He is already only a mediocre (at best) champ so I am up for anythign that would make him better.


To be honest, I'm annoyed because I spent forever figuring him out and actually do now feel that he's quite good. I don't mind them replacing his R with something more interesting (although this... doesn't seem more interesting) but just making him worse is very strange to me. His teamfight strength was there, it's just that his builds were not obvious.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 17 2012 03:25 GMT
#3879
Could they just revert all of these bad Jax changes and restore him back to the way he was?
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
March 17 2012 03:25 GMT
#3880
Full stack chogath with storm shield and surge cupcake is amazingly cute. This champion is now must buy
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