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Sven Stryker
United States423 Posts
I find the change in Hexdrinker itself much more interesting. Old Hexdrinker: 35 AD, 30 MR, 300 HP Magic Shield, 1800 Gold New Hexdrinker: 25 AD, 30 MR, 250 HP Magic Shield, 1400 Gold New Hexdrinker+Long Sword that was removed from recipe: 35 AD, 30 MR, 250 HP Magic Shield, 1815 Gold You can actually get it earlier when it's useful, but the gold efficiency went down unless I'm missing something. Maybe I shouldn't use the Long Sword for comparison. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On March 17 2012 13:04 Chrispy wrote: I've been thinking of doing this for a while now but I don't have the IP to do it haha. So sad... after so long I actually hate LoL's f2p system and would prefer just buying the game outright for 60 dollars and having all the runes/champions.  I've tried it out, it's pretty good but not worth the 6kish IP in runes unless you're swimming in them | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
I wonder if the lifesteal nerf will stop people from being able to go vamp scepter to start their jungle. Also wriggles nerf makes the champions that don't get it better. Amumu maokai etc. Also it's a nice nerf to bottom lane ad's who try to cheese with wriggles. Lulu movement speed buff, shield, silence, ad and hp buff. She's like a mash up of janna, soraka, nunu. She's as slow as ziggs though, which might break her as an ap carry. 370 movement speed can be dealt with on an ad because you get something to move faster. That only exists on lichbane for ap's. Anivia can get away with it because of her kit, but I don't know about many other ap's that can. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
lulu looks fantastic, great all-around. glad i've got some IP saved up buffs/nerfs were pretty good this patch, i was hoping they'd nerf lifesteal and i was hoping they'd change the bloodthirster stacks. got both my wishes. not to mention bullshit irelia sustain goes down, BEST NERF. this is a very welcome change, as irelia is one of the strongest champs in arranged play due to the passive nature of laning and the length of games compared to solo queue. maybe she won't instawin the game now because she can be bullied a bit in lane. if rammus and shaco fall off the ban list (though, tbh, i only ban shaco so my teammates can't fail at him, i'm not afraid of shaco at all tbh), i think i'll be banning morgana, kennen, shen, lee sin, vlad, cass in that order. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
Turn it on to see a blitz pull a nasus that's so farmed he hits blitz and 70% of his life is gone, lol. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
Her Q is one of the most interesting skill shots in the game. You fire two projectiles, one from Lulu and one from Pix. They both, however, aim straight where you click. This means you can get some very interesting spread shots depending on where Pix was. There are also some interesting interactions with this, as you can attach Pix Orianna style to allied and enemy champions. The slow on Q doesn't scale with level, but its duration does. Her W will be overpowered on Cass and Rumble. It's a 35% movement speed boost at all ranks and + 60 AP at rank 5. Most of the time you'll probably save it for the Polymorph (2.5 seconds). There is a projectile delay on the Polymorph. It isn't much, but it'll be noticeable. E is instant whether you use it to damage or defend. It's a decent shield on a very short cooldown (10 seconds), and decent damage if used offensively. This'll be your goto primary spell as a support. R is hilarious. There's a knockup/back around whoever you cast it on, so cast it on a Malphite/Nautilus/whoever just dove into the middle of the enemy team and stack the CC. Regarding Jax, the numbers quoted earlier in the thread are correct. It's 25/35/45 + .3 Armor per total AD + .2 MR per AP. It was thoroughly underwhelming as a defensive steroid. I did well with him but it was in spite of his ult, rather than because of it. I'm going to try another build, but I really don't think it'll make a difference. | ||
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warscythes
365 Posts
I remember Morello saying that the reason they cannot nerf atmas is that because without it, tanky dps does not have anything else to build other than triforce. So he want to either improve tanky dps item choices or introduces more, this might be a sign that atmas is getting nerfs in the future. | ||
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BigMcLargeHuge
United States8 Posts
This interation has been by far the best and closest to the original feel of Jax you are going to get in a semi-balanced form that has been presented. It brings back the incentives for rageblade builds midgame, which along with his passive, gives you that classic build up feel we got from the old hybrid Jax builds. With the counterstrike's AoE DR and the new ult you're going to be able to jump straight into the middle of the action. You will be able to survive AoE-R storms where other bruisers would explode on contact. While intermittent this gives you that super beast feel Jax players crave. The combination of his very high potential dmg and durability fires him well back into carry status, while still allowing some counterplay. He will play a bit more in the moment, smart ability use will be important, but he will be more beastly then he's been since the ol' crit leapstrike days. I'll be honest here I've lost one game on DW with the new Jax because I was on a control group against a new OP item that was scrapped the next day. And we balance our teams fairly well we have 2k+ guys we sneak in when there is a power house on one team. And we have some well known strong players on the live team that are designers like Statikk and Classicks that sneak into our games. He's getting released very strong. When I saw someone say his dmg tickled?! While I'm hard carrying games and gibbing ranged ADs--I had to reply. Enjoy him my friends he's obviously different then he used to be but this one will hopefully click with the veteran players and you'ill feel like you're playing Jax again. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 17 2012 14:58 BigMcLargeHuge wrote: Hey.. I'm "Big McLarge Huge" I do volunteer work on doran's workshop which is Riot's experimental testing realm. I've been known to play Jax from early beta. And I championed much of the internal feedback to get Jax's rework looked at. This interation has been by far the best and closest to the original feel of Jax you are going to get in a semi-balanced form that has been presented. It brings back the incentives for rageblade builds midgame, which along with his passive, gives you that classic build up feel we got from the old hybrid Jax builds. With the counterstrike's AoE DR and the new ult you're going to be able to jump straight into the middle of the action. You will be able to survive AoE-R storms where other bruisers would explode on contact. While intermittent this gives you that super beast feel Jax players crave. The combination of his very high potential dmg and durability fires him well back into carry status, while still allowing some counterplay. He will play a bit more in the moment, smart ability use will be important, but he will be more beastly then he's been since the ol' crit leapstrike days. I'll be honest here I've lost one game on DW with the new Jax because I was on a control group against a new OP item that was scrapped the next day. And we balance our teams fairly well we have 2k+ guys we sneak in when there is a power house on one team. And we have some well known strong players on the live team that are designers like Statikk and Classicks that sneak into our games. He's getting released very strong. When I saw someone say his dmg tickled?! While I'm hard carrying games and gibbing ranged ADs--I had to reply. Enjoy him my friends he's obviously different then he used to be but this one will hopefully click with the veteran players and you'ill feel like you're playing Jax again. Not sure if trolling... Before you could just buy a negatron and a chainmail and you basically had the same effect, only permanently, while 1500g cant bring you even close to those dmg numbers. You are still going to need to build jax tanky, except now he will never deal dmg instead of just during his ulti. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
They're nerfing my girl Irelia. WHY RIOT SHE IS PISS AWFUL IN LANE EARLY ON. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On March 17 2012 14:58 BigMcLargeHuge wrote: Hey.. I'm "Big McLarge Huge" I do volunteer work on doran's workshop which is Riot's experimental testing realm. I've been known to play Jax from early beta. And I championed much of the internal feedback to get Jax's rework looked at. This interation has been by far the best and closest to the original feel of Jax you are going to get in a semi-balanced form that has been presented. It brings back the incentives for rageblade builds midgame, which along with his passive, gives you that classic build up feel we got from the old hybrid Jax builds. With the counterstrike's AoE DR and the new ult you're going to be able to jump straight into the middle of the action. You will be able to survive AoE-R storms where other bruisers would explode on contact. While intermittent this gives you that super beast feel Jax players crave. The combination of his very high potential dmg and durability fires him well back into carry status, while still allowing some counterplay. He will play a bit more in the moment, smart ability use will be important, but he will be more beastly then he's been since the ol' crit leapstrike days. I'll be honest here I've lost one game on DW with the new Jax because I was on a control group against a new OP item that was scrapped the next day. And we balance our teams fairly well we have 2k+ guys we sneak in when there is a power house on one team. And we have some well known strong players on the live team that are designers like Statikk and Classicks that sneak into our games. He's getting released very strong. When I saw someone say his dmg tickled?! While I'm hard carrying games and gibbing ranged ADs--I had to reply. Enjoy him my friends he's obviously different then he used to be but this one will hopefully click with the veteran players and you'ill feel like you're playing Jax again. Thank you for your insight. I must say I remain skeptical but I'll try him out with more of an open mind and start rolling rageblade again. It's just that after quite a lot of experimentation I found that if you build items for the same stats the new ult gives - items that were not typical before his remake - it unlocked the abusive power of his current ult. Items like wit's end and wriggles basically gave you the same benefit you will receive after the patch, but you also got thousands of free gold by pressing R. His teamfight potential was extremely good when abusing tanky dps resist items and it really seems like a net reduction of power. I don't feel a great deal of pleasure at the thought of rageblade and gunblade being improved on him at such cost. | ||
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warscythes
365 Posts
On March 17 2012 15:09 Cloud9157 wrote: ............ They're nerfing my girl Irelia. WHY RIOT SHE IS PISS AWFUL IN LANE EARLY ON. Hm? Isn't Irelia one of the safest solo top pick in the game right now other than Lee and Udyr? | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On March 17 2012 15:09 Cloud9157 wrote: ............ They're nerfing my girl Irelia. WHY RIOT SHE IS PISS AWFUL IN LANE EARLY ON. Funny thing is her lategame is still the same which the strongest point about her. Also jax . . .meh. Tbh nothing they change is going to bring back the feeling of playing the old jax. He's just a shadow of his former self. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Nerfs big meh from me. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On March 17 2012 15:13 warscythes wrote: Hm? Isn't Irelia one of the safest solo top pick in the game right now other than Lee and Udyr? Shes safe if she last hits at tower until level 8-9. So many tops will tare her a new one early on. Facing Garen or Olaf top? Don't even try to last hit with anything other than Q at level 2 or 3. Irelia is pretty much one of the best top champs if in a farm fest after Nasus and Tryndamere. She is a complete monster late game, but this is really going to hurt her early on. She already hungers for mana early on, since you usually have to constantly activate W+Q to last hit at tower. Don't know how hard the ult is getting hit, but I never really cared for it other than pushing a lane or using it on as many people as possible in a team fight. I'm tempted to just run Lifesteal Quints now instead of MS. Gonna have to see how hard they hit her. Edit: I read through the patch preview thread and realized that this kinda makes sense when life steal in general is getting hit. Could always just build Wriggles on her still. Hopefully they still don't hit her too hard. Would be nice to see W be active for another second or 2 longer. Would make up for her not having 26 HP lifesteal all the time. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
The random rammus base stats nerf is the same flaw. He has an ability that lets him gank quickly and often. Wow, a jungler that can gank often because of a low cooldown speed boost. Never seen that before. Better nerf xin. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On March 17 2012 14:58 BigMcLargeHuge wrote: Hey.. I'm "Big McLarge Huge" I do volunteer work on doran's workshop which is Riot's experimental testing realm. I've been known to play Jax from early beta. And I championed much of the internal feedback to get Jax's rework looked at. This interation has been by far the best and closest to the original feel of Jax you are going to get in a semi-balanced form that has been presented. It brings back the incentives for rageblade builds midgame, which along with his passive, gives you that classic build up feel we got from the old hybrid Jax builds. With the counterstrike's AoE DR and the new ult you're going to be able to jump straight into the middle of the action. You will be able to survive AoE-R storms where other bruisers would explode on contact. While intermittent this gives you that super beast feel Jax players crave. The combination of his very high potential dmg and durability fires him well back into carry status, while still allowing some counterplay. He will play a bit more in the moment, smart ability use will be important, but he will be more beastly then he's been since the ol' crit leapstrike days. I'll be honest here I've lost one game on DW with the new Jax because I was on a control group against a new OP item that was scrapped the next day. And we balance our teams fairly well we have 2k+ guys we sneak in when there is a power house on one team. And we have some well known strong players on the live team that are designers like Statikk and Classicks that sneak into our games. He's getting released very strong. When I saw someone say his dmg tickled?! While I'm hard carrying games and gibbing ranged ADs--I had to reply. Enjoy him my friends he's obviously different then he used to be but this one will hopefully click with the veteran players and you'ill feel like you're playing Jax again. Can you give us some thoughts on why the remake ultimate is worse than this new version? Also, what item build are you using? I'm having trouble seeing how an ultimate which grants roughly 1.5k worth of stats baseline is so much better than one which grants 3.7k worth of stats. | ||
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