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On March 17 2012 12:17 petered wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 12:13 Terranasaur wrote:
Ya. Jax remake is teh sucks. What happened to always kill, never die? Did people really find Jax's current ult interesting? Don't see why people are getting worked up about them redoing one of the most boring skills in the game. He is already only a mediocre (at best) champ so I am up for anythign that would make him better.
Didn't say current ult was interesting. But it sure helped beating the hell out of people which is the whole point of jax. Now it's just "jump on stuff and tickle a little bit while taking reduced damage and still getting blown up"
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On March 17 2012 12:25 OreoBoi wrote:
Full stack chogath with storm shield and surge cupcake is amazingly cute. This champion is now must buy
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On March 17 2012 12:17 petered wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 12:13 Terranasaur wrote:
Ya. Jax remake is teh sucks. What happened to always kill, never die? Did people really find Jax's current ult interesting? Don't see why people are getting worked up about them redoing one of the most boring skills in the game. He is already only a mediocre (at best) champ so I am up for anythign that would make him better.
It was at the very least different. Perhaps it wasn't the most unique and game-changing, but it had some flavor and potential.
The new ult is distinctly "meh". You have to build 150 bonus AD and 225 AP (assuming the earlier numbers were correct) in order for it to be as good as something Galio can cast on anyone he wants, and Bulwark is on an 8-13 second cooldown. To an extent I'm comparing apples and oranges, but it seems so weird that Riot is focused on "burst survivability" while giving champions that need it ridiculously underpowered defensive steroids.
Let's put it this way. Xin Zhao's typical builds are extremely tanky and his "burst survivability" gives him 90 Armor/MR in the right circumstances. Despite this he still gets exploded late game.
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Yorick sustain broken? "Better nerf irelia...and lifesteal!"
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stanley0506's Kennen top build slightly better now!
21/9/0
-lifesteal quints
-start Dblade
-buy 2 more
Level 1 12% lifesteal hi
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Just watched the Lulu patch preview, they brough hex into LoL, we will have to wait and see how that turn out. Also I like the nerf to lifesteal bloodthrist but not sure about wriggle.
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On March 17 2012 12:26 Terranasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 12:17 petered wrote:On March 17 2012 12:13 Terranasaur wrote:
Ya. Jax remake is teh sucks. What happened to always kill, never die? Did people really find Jax's current ult interesting? Don't see why people are getting worked up about them redoing one of the most boring skills in the game. He is already only a mediocre (at best) champ so I am up for anythign that would make him better. Didn't say current ult was interesting. But it sure helped beating the hell out of people which is the whole point of jax. Now it's just "jump on stuff and tickle a little bit while taking reduced damage and still getting blown up"
It's really getting up my butt thinking about this. I guess I'm pretty invested after having spent so much time playing him. Wasn't the whole point of the remake to get away from the double dip scaling because it meant they had to nerf him into garbage? Now here they are giving him a double dip ability for no apparent reason, and unless it's already really bad... guess what... they're going to have to nerf it into garbage. Whyyyyyyyyyy
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Just played Fiona for the first time and I have to say her trading power in lane is pretty ludicrous.
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The problem is Jax, for better or worse, USED to be a unique and beautiful snowflake.
Now every iteration they try to do of his ult/passive combo is going to be bland compared to who he used to be. They will never be able to capture that same feeling, no matter how hard they try.
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On March 17 2012 12:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
The problem is Jax, for better or worse, USED to be a unique and beautiful snowflake.
Now every iteration they try to do of his ult/passive combo is going to be bland compared to who he used to be. They will never be able to capture that same feeling, no matter how hard they try.
Yup, Riot seems decided to murder every single hybrid champion and force them into some other role, often times making them suck in the process.
I want old Kayle and Jax back. :/
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I like the current incarnation, it absolutely clicks for me and I don't feel like he got 'kayled'. I'm ok with old jax not coming back because old jax was bullshit. He was broken with everything, then he sucked for a long time, then he was reliant on gunblade being broken, then he sucked, then the last remake. As far as I can tell, impossible to balance.
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On March 17 2012 12:20 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 12:09 Shikyo wrote:On March 17 2012 12:08 red_ wrote:On March 17 2012 12:04 GreenManalishi wrote:On March 17 2012 11:58 Qualm wrote:On March 17 2012 11:56 UniversalSnip wrote:unsourced riot forums post 25/35/45 +.3BonusAD to armor, .2 AP to MR.
Feeeeels gooooood. is that actually the change to jax...? I hope not. that's fucking garbage. That's pretty substantial actually, but the CD on his ult would be a bit high for what it gives. Not really compared to the amount of stats it currently gives. Total value of stats => nerf. Right now it gives 3.5k+, 45/45 + small scaling is worth like 2k. You can't just compare it in a vacuum like that. If he got some ridiculous scaling of defensive stats from building pure offense he'd be... oh wait he'd be old permaban Jax. You call that permaban? o_O Serious? You don't think Jax has ever been permaban status or something? It's not like I referenced a specific patch. But getting 120 armor+mr on his ult would be pretty fucking silly yes.
Ever? Of course he was.
Right before the remake? No.
About Jax, he'd be far more interesting imo if the stun had like a 4-5 second cooldown, stunned for 0.5s, had dodge for 0.5s, etc. Also if they gave his old ulti back
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The orginally-Kayle main in me deep down loathes Riot for how they outright raped her everything with their big nerf sticks.
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Realistically they should just get rid of her w and make it a straight ms and as boost. And fix her E to ACTUALLY HAVE 100% FUCKING UPTIME.
There. I just fixed Kayle.
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The new item is sort of interesting...but I'm not sure I'd ever use it... maybe on olaf but even then
at 10% health you get 91 AD, its just wierd because the shield activates at 30%.. which actually slows down your DPS.
It just doesnt look that attractive, seems like I'd rather get a BT
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On March 17 2012 12:35 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
stanley0506's Kennen top build slightly better now!
21/9/0
-lifesteal quints
-start Dblade
-buy 2 more
Level 1 12% lifesteal hi
I've been thinking of doing this for a while now but I don't have the IP to do it haha. So sad... after so long I actually hate LoL's f2p system and would prefer just buying the game outright for 60 dollars and having all the runes/champions. 
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On March 17 2012 12:49 UniversalSnip wrote:
I like the current incarnation, it absolutely clicks for me and I don't feel like he got 'kayled'. I'm ok with old jax not coming back because old jax was bullshit. He was broken with everything, then he sucked for a long time, then he was reliant on gunblade being broken, then he sucked, then the last remake. As far as I can tell, impossible to balance.
i played the new jax like once or twice and just found him so dull. the 1 thing that drew me to playing jax before was that his experience was like no other, except maybe poppy. you derp around having a terrible time then suddenly, your tearing people up 1v5. maybe it was imbalanced but he felt unique.
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On March 17 2012 13:04 Chrispy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 12:35 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
stanley0506's Kennen top build slightly better now!
21/9/0
-lifesteal quints
-start Dblade
-buy 2 more
Level 1 12% lifesteal hi I've been thinking of doing this for a while now but I don't have the IP to do it haha. So sad... after so long I actually hate LoL's f2p system and would prefer just buying the game outright for 60 dollars and having all the runes/champions.
They should have an option available only to level 30 accounts that enables you to buy every champion for 60 bucks.
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On March 17 2012 13:13 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 13:04 Chrispy wrote:On March 17 2012 12:35 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
stanley0506's Kennen top build slightly better now!
21/9/0
-lifesteal quints
-start Dblade
-buy 2 more
Level 1 12% lifesteal hi I've been thinking of doing this for a while now but I don't have the IP to do it haha. So sad... after so long I actually hate LoL's f2p system and would prefer just buying the game outright for 60 dollars and having all the runes/champions. They should have an option available only to level 30 accounts that enables you to buy every champion for 60 bucks.
Why would they do that, 60 bucks is only like 9 6300 champs.
On the new item, I think it could be quite good on riven against an AP heavy team. Extra AD gives you bigger shields as you get low hp, so if you get bursted down to where the passive shield activates and E you'd have an absolutely massive shield.
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