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On February 17 2012 22:27 Wrag wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 22:18 red_ wrote:On February 17 2012 22:05 Wrag wrote:On February 17 2012 21:43 Alaric wrote:
Riot always does this when a spell can it several times (cf. Ahri and Nautilus). It's to avoid having a spell too biaised toward 1v1 (okayish then, but then weak on multitargets, or 0K in AoE but overpowered on single target). That's not entirely true, Ryzes W and Brands do not have diminishing dmg on further hits, although they do have other limiting factors (mainly the need for a second bounce target close by). I guess we can't say if the damage decrease is needed until knowing exactly how the skill 'strikes random champions'. Unless the wording is just purposefully confusing, it's Omnislash from Dota. You bounce on the targets face 3/6/9(not sure what Riot will make their numbers) times if they're the only target available, and they die. Finding a lvl 11+ Jugg with his ult up while alone is essentially death, you made a mistake and you get punished for it. If he uses it while you are in a pile of 12 creeps, you may actually only get hit once. I'll wait to see numbers on it before flipping out further, but it seems awfully arbitrary to weaken it's 1v1 potential and turn it into a psuedo aoe, when there are plenty of champions who have VERY punishing 'I caught you wandering alone' kits(and on the flip side, champs who will rape your whole team if you clump as 5). So i guess the real question is : Will it stack with Tiamat the same way Omnislash stacks with BF? Fun memories right there..
If it does, I will immediately revoke my criticism of the ability, and play Tiamat Fiora every game for the rest of my LoL life(which admittedly is non-existent right now, but I keep my tabs on it to see if something makes me want to play again).
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On February 17 2012 22:37 epoc wrote:
The stun/root/silence would have to be really short. Like 1 second
That part is like no issue at all. It all boils down to item cost vs CD vs buff/debuff duration.
Obviously an item that costs 5k gold and stuns for 10s might not exactly fit into the current roster. =P
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the same way Omnislash stacks with BF? Fun memories right there..
Oh yessss. best thing ever.
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And then in the champ spotlight he is gonna build Triforce on it.
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I think I'm getting a hard on every time I hear Xypherous working on a new champion. I can forgive you for Nautilus. Make my boner happy again. <3
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Xypherous champs = instabuy
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I'm sorry to anyone that likes new champions but the rate at which they release champions is way too quick. It makes it less exciting and leads to a lot of champions acting in the same role with slightly altered skill sets / base stats. Riot should just slow it down lol.
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I don't really like Renekton or Nautilus. Riven and Orianna are fantastic though and Xypherous is probably the best champ designer at Riot.
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On February 17 2012 22:53 jcarlsoniv wrote:Xypherous champs = instabuy
I'm with you on this.
His champs aren't always the best at their roles, but damn they're always so original and fun to play.
High expectations for that next support champion ^^
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On February 17 2012 22:18 red_ wrote:
I'll wait to see numbers on it before flipping out further, but it seems awfully arbitrary to weaken it's 1v1 potential and turn it into a psuedo aoe, when there are plenty of champions who have VERY punishing 'I caught you wandering alone' kits(and on the flip side, champs who will rape your whole team if you clump as 5).
Annie and Morgana can rape your team but will still kill you 1v1 if they catch you (and you're not a bruiser/tank). Brand will do less damage if you're alone, and Kennen will do more. It really depends on the way the "hit several people" is designed (AoE or multitarget).
On February 17 2012 22:48 r.Evo wrote:
I think I'm getting a hard on every time I hear Xypherous working on a new champion. I can forgive you for Nautilus. Make my boner happy again. <3
Hey, Nautilus is cool! 0K, perhaps I'd be less enthusiast about the way he resembles Maokai/Blitzcrank/Sej if I wasn't totally sold for the first two.
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On February 17 2012 22:42 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 22:37 epoc wrote:
The stun/root/silence would have to be really short. Like 1 second That part is like no issue at all. It all boils down to item cost vs CD vs buff/debuff duration. Obviously an item that costs 5k gold and stuns for 10s might not exactly fit into the current roster. =P
Er, no. It´s extremely hard to put a correct price on utility, thats why supports are so difficult to get right. Even in Dota the important actives are more like levelups mesured in Gold instead of XP, either core or irrelevant.
Summoner Spells are basically the LoL equivialent to DOTA utility active items. We all know how hard it is to balance them.
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On February 17 2012 22:37 epoc wrote:
The stun/root/silence would have to be really short. Like 1 second
1 second isn't "really short" in terms of LOL CC.
I wish they added an option in arranged 5s to give your members picking priority (aka you can set an order in which your teammates pick in champ select).
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On February 17 2012 23:35 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 22:37 epoc wrote:
The stun/root/silence would have to be really short. Like 1 second 1 second isn't "really short" in terms of LOL CC. I wish they added an option in arranged 5s to give your members picking priority (aka you can set an order in which your teammates pick in champ select).
THIS WOULD BE SO NICE. We often run into this issue becaaaaause I only have AP mids. Fuck other lanes.
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On February 17 2012 22:39 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 22:27 Wrag wrote:On February 17 2012 22:18 red_ wrote:On February 17 2012 22:05 Wrag wrote:On February 17 2012 21:43 Alaric wrote:
Riot always does this when a spell can it several times (cf. Ahri and Nautilus). It's to avoid having a spell too biaised toward 1v1 (okayish then, but then weak on multitargets, or 0K in AoE but overpowered on single target). That's not entirely true, Ryzes W and Brands do not have diminishing dmg on further hits, although they do have other limiting factors (mainly the need for a second bounce target close by). I guess we can't say if the damage decrease is needed until knowing exactly how the skill 'strikes random champions'. Unless the wording is just purposefully confusing, it's Omnislash from Dota. You bounce on the targets face 3/6/9(not sure what Riot will make their numbers) times if they're the only target available, and they die. Finding a lvl 11+ Jugg with his ult up while alone is essentially death, you made a mistake and you get punished for it. If he uses it while you are in a pile of 12 creeps, you may actually only get hit once. I'll wait to see numbers on it before flipping out further, but it seems awfully arbitrary to weaken it's 1v1 potential and turn it into a psuedo aoe, when there are plenty of champions who have VERY punishing 'I caught you wandering alone' kits(and on the flip side, champs who will rape your whole team if you clump as 5). So i guess the real question is : Will it stack with Tiamat the same way Omnislash stacks with BF? Fun memories right there.. If it does, I will immediately revoke my criticism of the ability, and play Tiamat Fiora every game for the rest of my LoL life(which admittedly is non-existent right now, but I keep my tabs on it to see if something makes me want to play again).
Tiamat Shyv/Twitch are crying in a corner forgotten and alone. They have way more lulz potential than Fiora ever will.
It's quite possible Fiona ulti will work something like Kennen ulti to gimp some of the 1v1.
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How the ruddy hell did everyone forget how to lane against a Morde? From all mid laners I've gotten in solo queue a remarkable amount loses to huehuekaiser. People had him all figured out months ago, why has this knowledge not continued?
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He got a slight buff and was never THAT bad even after the nerfs. Morde's a top tier farmer as per usual.
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My buddy plays full mage Morde when we solo queue (like, Sorc/WotA/DFG/DC/Rylai/GA or something along those lines) and just chunks fools. People really don't know what to do when he smacks the carry for 60% of their health in half a second and then the rest of us follow up and murder them.
I like Morde, though. Despite his lack of utility or escape, his high damage, pushing power, innate tankiness, and the ability to turn a 5v5 into a 6v4 is very nice if the Morde player is good.
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I think nautilus is good guys. Dude ganks like a boss, I feel like I just get perma-CCed for like 4 seconds every time he shows up on my lane.
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I was thinking of getting Talon, can anyone give me an idea which champs he does well against and which he doesn't?
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