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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
On February 18 2012 00:34 Promises wrote: I was thinking of getting Talon, can anyone give me an idea which champs he does well against and which he doesn't? He does well vs. 80% of mid mages. Not good at top. Snowballs really, really hard (1 kill and the lane is won) Ganks top and bot really easily. An idea pubstomper at low elo. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 18 2012 00:29 Mogwai wrote: I think nautilus is good guys. Dude ganks like a boss, I feel like I just get perma-CCed for like 4 seconds every time he shows up on my lane. His ganking and teamfight are absurd, his pushing/farming powers are pretty good. His big downside counterjungling/getting counterjungled. If someone comes in to steal my stuff and fight me, I'm usually better off just roaming and ganking than trying to fight back. His damage is pretty low if you're building tank (which you should be, given his kit and role), so trying to 1v1 that Shy/Jax/GP/LS that comes to take your Red or whatever does not end up very well. But like I said, using his CC just makes or breaks him. Pre-6, it's pretty good (displacement-snare-slow), post-6, it's downright lethal. Adding in that knock-up and stun means whoever you tag with your ult is dead unless they blow all summoners and cooldowns. His ult is a carry-killer in teamfights. If you can hit the entire team with the knock-up, great! If not, you still secure the kill on that Cait/whatever and turn the tide in your favor. I've been doing Regrowth-Boots-Philo-HoG-Aegis-(FoN/FH/Shurelia)-situational as a usual build. I'd like Abyssal over FoN at times for a bit more damage, but the MS is just too necessary on his slow ass. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On February 18 2012 00:29 Mogwai wrote: I think nautilus is good guys. Dude ganks like a boss, I feel like I just get perma-CCed for like 4 seconds every time he shows up on my lane. Of course he's good. Look at his kit. It doesn't matter how much damage he does, his level of disruption is just insane. I don't know how good he'll be for solo q, but once people figure him out, he will do very well in arranged comps. Sejuani is the same way. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On February 17 2012 22:42 lurked wrote: WOOT! Apparently Xypherous is working on the next support champion. http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6287473#post6287473 I know it doesn't mean much, but Phreak says " He/she/it is going to be awesome." I am in full support of a gender-ambiguous champion punintentional | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On February 18 2012 00:44 Abenson wrote: He does well vs. 80% of mid mages. Not good at top. Snowballs really, really hard (1 kill and the lane is won) Ganks top and bot really easily. An idea pubstomper at low elo. i actually think wukong should be played mid as well for similar reasons. At least vs certain matchups that is. His ganks are fast and deadly in any case. | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
an example of doing something very right | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
The way his Q and R work is great. I'm wondering about, against a good peeling team, trying to flank to Q the tank/initiator away from his backline (and get closer), flash over him to get even closer and then ult the farthest possible enemy/squishy. Obviously it's not as good as Qing a squishy and ulting another when they're all bunched, but added with his passive and E I think maneuvers like that could work to split teams or keep a bruiser/peeler from helping his carries/diving yours while you trod towards the core of the fight. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On February 17 2012 23:41 phyvo wrote: Tiamat Shyv/Twitch are crying in a corner forgotten and alone. They have way more lulz potential than Fiora ever will. It's quite possible Fiona ulti will work something like Kennen ulti to gimp some of the 1v1. It's not 'quite possible,' it is stated right there in the text that it will work that way(well, not the limited to 3 hits part, but the reduced damage per hit in place of hit). It both reduces it's effectiveness in 1v1, and also reduces the chances of RNG when used in a multiple target scenario(Kennen's ult even has a psuedo-rng mechanic where it preferentially targets enemies who don't have a mark already to spread them out more evenly). Again, numbers aren't available yet so we'll see how strong it could still be(extreme hypothetical: it's 300 damage a hit for 4/5/6 hits, even having hits after the first reduced by 50% would still be obscene damage in a 1v1, and a potentially 1k+ damage aoe to 3+ targets), but they've set it up to be really disappointing, like a glorified alpha strike. | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On February 18 2012 01:05 Haasts wrote: Which junglers (if any) can you get away with substituting Exhaust (or Ignite, I guess) for Flash? Giving it a go on Shen at the moment, mixed results. Definitely viable on Lee Sin. I jungle him with smite/exhaust all the time. Just make sure you have a ward on you so you can W to safety when you have to. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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pschiu
Singapore410 Posts
On February 18 2012 00:51 Flakes wrote: I am in full support of yet another gender-ambiguous champion punintentional Fixed. :D On February 18 2012 01:00 unichan wrote: i used to not be a fan of gman bob but props to him for still being able to draw in thousands of viewers when there are at least 10 pros streaming at all times an example of doing something very right For me, I like watching his stream because he not only does not rage nor just play in silence but he also maintains constructive communication with his viewers. Like pointing out what he's thinking, what's going on, mistakes, and so on. He also has personality. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On February 18 2012 00:55 Vlanitak wrote: Nautilus is the first champ I have had to activly cancel the attack animation on in order to get last hits. coz that animation is hella long I find his anchor smash animation really funny so sometimes i don't bother canceling. But you can cancel the animation really early which is awesome(I think the damage comes out right after he starts the swing ) | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On February 18 2012 01:46 rwrzr wrote: I find his anchor smash animation really funny so sometimes i don't bother canceling. But you can cancel the animation really early which is awesome(I think the damage comes out right after he starts the swing ) Speaking of cancelling, WuKong's Q has to be one of the most awkward animations ever. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
On February 18 2012 00:29 Mogwai wrote: I think nautilus is good guys. Dude ganks like a boss, I feel like I just get perma-CCed for like 4 seconds every time he shows up on my lane. Played against one yesterday, initial impressions: 1) His early game feels pretty ridiculous. His W shields for a ton and he has basically infinite CC. Also, excellent mobility from his Q. Early game ganks he felt unkillable and you basically couldn't move. 2) I see him sort of like a better Sejuani. He doesn't feel very viable in solo queue because his damage doesn't scale well. The one I played the game opened something like 6/0/4, then lost the game because his team wasn't very coordinated. I think he'd be really solid in arranged teams where people are good/coordinated enough to use his infinite CC to pick off players. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On February 18 2012 01:54 Shiv. wrote: Speaking of cancelling, WuKong's Q has to be one of the most awkward animations ever. Best to just Q before E. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
Nah, you'd miss out on a free auto. Didn't they change it so that all champions attempt to AA directly after a gapcloser? I'm 99% sure that applies for the monkey aswell. Sure, later on, it's not a big deal, but I'd argue the difference between having that AA or not having it can be pretty detrimental early game. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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