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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 15 2012 14:25 r.Evo wrote: That ninjachange to seeing which champs are free even if you own them confused the hell out of me. WTF SINCE WHEN DON'T I OWN JANNA Haha, I did the same thing. But it is a good change. Now when my nooblet friends ask me who is free I don't need to go looks it up on the websites. ^_^ | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 15 2012 14:23 UniversalSnip wrote: you do drag just fine and your clear speed is not an issue. couple d blades gives you WAY more survivability than a wriggles on olaf. There is zero flat hp on a wriggles and you pretty much already crush ad heroes, the only issue he has in fights is losing hp while he chases someone down and getting bursted by ap and wriggles doesn't help you at all with that. I build it on lane usually because you just have so much more gold that you can buy it and still hit the raw hp threshold you need vs mid but in jungle it's ironically worse. Naw, not buying it. You have to have a REAL good reason nowadays to not get wriggles because of how damn good it is. Dblades just doesnt give anywhere near the same objective control. And once again, without blue you are REALLY dependent on a VERY low mana pool, which slows you to a crawl. I favor just getting a wriggles and never having to back ever. And it isnt as though you need that much health that fast. The earliest drag fight is going to be at ~10 minutes if you get chunked and the enemy has a wriggles. Otherwise you typically are going to have an opportunity to get a HoG or a Dblade to compliment your wriggles. Wriggles is faster, has more map presence, and is a very good item. You have to have a VERY compelling reason not to get it. Multiple GP10 pretty much the only other build that can rival it for the income and efficiency, but even then the trade off in map control is HUGE. And I dont think that "I like 2 dblades cuz health is cool and I dont like lifesteal" is a very compelling argument. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On February 15 2012 14:33 Two_DoWn wrote: Naw, not buying it. You have to have a REAL good reason nowadays to not get wriggles because of how damn good it is. Dblades just doesnt give anywhere near the same objective control. And once again, without blue you are REALLY dependent on a VERY low mana pool, which slows you to a crawl. I favor just getting a wriggles and never having to back ever. And it isnt as though you need that much health that fast. The earliest drag fight is going to be at ~10 minutes if you get chunked and the enemy has a wriggles. Otherwise you typically are going to have an opportunity to get a HoG or a Dblade to compliment your wriggles. Wriggles is faster, has more map presence, and is a very good item. You have to have a VERY compelling reason not to get it. Multiple GP10 pretty much the only other build that can rival it for the income and efficiency, but even then the trade off in map control is HUGE. And I dont think that "I like 2 dblades cuz health is cool and I dont like lifesteal" is a very compelling argument. eh, go ahead and try it. You're wayyyy better vs their casters with dblades and it really doesn't slow you down. Give it a shot, he's like my favorite jungle, don't assume I just haven't tried wriggles on him or something. | ||
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Akinokaze
Australia326 Posts
zomg is that a chaos marine nautilus skin?? | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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courtpanda
866 Posts
On February 15 2012 15:05 midnight.tokyo wrote: zomg is that a chaos marine nautilus skin?? im seriously considering switching out my IU wallpaper for the valentines vayne. nah. IU too pretty <3 so today, i had one of the worst laning experiences ever. nasus solo v GP + nautilus. too much CC man | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 15 2012 15:14 courtpanda wrote: im seriously considering switching out my IU wallpaper for the valentines vayne. nah. IU too pretty <3 so today, i had one of the worst laning experiences ever. nasus solo v GP + nautilus. too much CC man Not enough oranges. Anyway, how have people been building Naut? I feel like he wants FH pretty early for the CDR on his abilites, so maybe tanky AP like FH/Abyssal/etc? I tried jungling with Regrowth start. It was ok, but I felt like I didn't have enough health left over to gank afterwards. Maybe Armor-5 is the go to? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I think Zeke's Herald might be a decent item on warwick. Along with Frozen Heart and some masteries it maxes his CDR out, gives him hp, some lifesteal and aspd, all of which he can use, and also the aura. (Btw I realize this could have been in the WW thread but it was more of a "hmm there might be a use for Zekes Herald" instead of a "Hmm Warwick should build this" if you get what I mean) On February 15 2012 15:30 Requizen wrote: FH Abyssal Rylai Deathcap Hourglass best build eva imo Not enough oranges. Anyway, how have people been building Naut? I feel like he wants FH pretty early for the CDR on his abilites, so maybe tanky AP like FH/Abyssal/etc? I tried jungling with Regrowth start. It was ok, but I felt like I didn't have enough health left over to gank afterwards. Maybe Armor-5 is the go to? | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Take a look and tell me if you have anything good to add/change/argue about. XERATH YEAH BOI <<< | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On February 15 2012 15:45 Shikyo wrote: Ok you guys will probably hate me for this but... I think Zeke's Herald might be a decent item on warwick. Along with Frozen Heart and some masteries it maxes his CDR out, gives him hp, some lifesteal and aspd, all of which he can use, and also the aura. (Btw I realize this could have been in the WW thread but it was more of a "hmm there might be a use for Zekes Herald" instead of a "Hmm Warwick should build this" if you get what I mean) FH Abyssal Rylai Deathcap Hourglass best build eva imo I dont think you can build an hourglass on Nautilus, theres just not that much gold in the game to cover him. | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
Like if I'm duoing bottom lane, I usually go for HoG and Philo because I feel like I have to play a support role due to my low damage. I'm just really confused using him, unlike other new champs I bought./ | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
got our asses WHOOPED in the first game, trying to work on teamwork and communication and shit for versing fnatic tomorrow would love some helpful criticism or maybe just the cold hard truth if we're playing 2shitty http://www.own3d.tv/live/45030 | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On February 15 2012 16:45 gtrsrs wrote: SG scrimming EHome atm got our asses WHOOPED in the first game, trying to work on teamwork and communication and shit for versing fnatic tomorrow would love some helpful criticism or maybe just the cold hard truth if we're playing 2shitty http://www.own3d.tv/live/45030 First piece of advice: tell people to turn off key clicks on vent. That shit is like Chinese water torture. edit for a little seriousness: I missed a good chunk (11 minutes?) so it's hard to say since it was already not looking too great by then, but one of the easiest things to try to do as a team is communication about the opposing jungle. Where he is/might be. This can obviously cause problems if you assume he's somewhere he's not, but as people get used to it they can become more aware of at least where he probably isn't. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 15 2012 16:38 Kouda wrote: Anyone have some decent insights for Nautilus for me? Like beginning items --> mid game item goals. etc? And what skills to level? Like if I'm duoing bottom lane, I usually go for HoG and Philo because I feel like I have to play a support role due to my low damage. I'm just really confused using him, unlike other new champs I bought./ Why would you duo bottom lane with him huh o_O Build him AP and solo mid. If E hits all 3 times(which it will when chasing) it's like 700 + 1.5 dmg nuke or something crazy like that and his ult is crazygood as well. People build gragas AP as well although he's melee | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 15 2012 17:09 Shikyo wrote: Why would you duo bottom lane with him huh o_O Build him AP and solo mid. If E hits all 3 times(which it will when chasing) it's like 700 + 1.5 dmg nuke or something crazy like that and his ult is crazygood as well. People build gragas AP as well although he's melee He prolly better Top than mid, doesn't have the range or the mana on his skills to compete with most AP's imo. I think his best spot is probably as Support bottom because he is hella disruptive whether he does damage or not and great at setting up kills in lane, much like an Alistar. You grab a Philo/HoG/Kages and just be annoying throughout lane phase I think he can be really strong. Granted, I havn't tested it too thoroughly, but I feel like he is like a mix of Blitz and Taric. Press W, walkup and hit opponent and he stunned for one second with you taking no damage, and him taking your magic damage DoT. He wants to run? Press E and he aint going no where fast, and if he is getting away press Q. Now imagine this combo with a Vayne wailing on them the whole time. He has stupidly good CC and needs no farm for it or his tankyness because of W. And thats without is whole team disrupting ulti. I've played a few games with him top and he trades really well once you have a few points in W... before that not so much. You kinda have to play passively till level 4-5 against most pupular top champs because you don't have the mana to continuously spam stuff (IE trade effectively) without a Tear/Philo/Chalice. But once you get a Philo and boots you can zone people pretty easily unless they get your shield down, but if they trying to get your shield down you can just Q to them, hit em a couple times then Q while chasing. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On February 15 2012 07:09 r.Evo wrote: Almost missed to reply to this one: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html Must read text for anyone who plays on the EUW server. This piece ("The complete military history of france") is around since like 10 years, you're really missing some awesome part of interwebs history if you don't know it. On the bright side I must admit that I'm almost always playing well when I'm with frenchies on vent because their accents make me happy. And some of them are so incredibly annoying if you lose that you just have to win. Somehow. Even if they're french. <3 Nenyimm. Seriously how is that funny ? It's like full of crap... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_France The military history of France encompasses an immense panorama of conflicts and struggles extending for more than 2,000 years across areas including modern France, greater Europe, and European territorial possessions overseas. According to BBC History: "There have been 53 major wars in Europe, France had been a belligerent in 49 of them; UK 43. In 185 battles that France had fought over the past 800 years, their armies had won 132 times, lost 43 times and drawn only 10, giving the French military the best record of any country in Europe". Sorry but I had to make that clear. Sypher and aAa are both french teams and not bad, the main problem is that the french scene is mostly amateurs, and in the game, it's true french tend to flame more than others. But I can't count the number of games where as soon as they knew I was french (like I talked french to a mate in the chat) I got flammed. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On February 15 2012 18:45 Dgiese wrote: Saintvicious about to jungle nautilus. Looking forward to seeing what the champ looks like when a real jungler (not phreak) is playing him. i think he has said Nautilus' Jungle is weak but Its only day 1 so i wouldnt take his word for it yet | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 15 2012 18:47 Kenpachi wrote: i think he has said Nautilus' Jungle is weak but Its only day 1 so i wouldnt take his word for it yet His nautilus gsmes have been making a pretty good point for that though <_< | ||
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