[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 146
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On February 26 2012 04:24 Craton wrote: LoL is not DotA. It's irrelevant what terms they use. So you instead make up your own definition and call it true? Especially when the name "carry" specifically comes from carrying your team into victory... | ||
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TheYango
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On February 26 2012 04:24 Craton wrote: LoL is not DotA. It's irrelevant what terms they use. It's not irrelevant. Insofar as your re-branding of terms holds no actual practical advantage (which you haven't shown it does), it's less confusing both for newcomers with DotA experience, and for inter-genre discussion to use the terms as they originally meant. | ||
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TheYango
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On February 26 2012 04:33 Craton wrote: Because DotA functions tremendously different from LoL with shit where mages are essentially supports. Your personal views on what the terms should be called do not line up with that the vast majority of players. Funny about how people always say that given how many mages are actually classed as semi-carries. And I'm pretty sure the fact that what you consider a misuse of the term (e.g. saying Irelia is a carry) is as common as it is means quite a lot of players don't agree with your definition. | ||
red_
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On February 26 2012 04:24 Craton wrote: LoL is not DotA. It's irrelevant what terms they use. Ya I mean, DotA calls their things heroes and creeps, LoL has champions and minions... the games are clearly nothing alike, who would ever make inferences from one to the other. I liked the part where you even avoided saying 'carries carry the game' by typing x instead of carry. At that point you and everyone else realized how pointless your argument is, and yet you carried on. I admire your perseverance, and by admire I mean laugh at, and by perseverance I mean trolling. | ||
Shikyo
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As I said, why would you call something "carry" if the term doesn't mean what the word does? That makes no sense. The term is completely stolen from DotA, and you want to give it a different definition that has nothing to do with the meaning of the word? | ||
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There's your definition. | ||
red_
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On February 26 2012 04:36 Shikyo wrote: Necrolyte, Storm Spirit, Invoker, Obsidian Destroyer, Tinker, Silencer, Prophet are some int heroes that can be played as carries... As I said, why would you call something "carry" if the term doesn't mean what the word does? That makes no sense. The term is completely stolen from DotA, and you want to give it a different definition that has nothing to do with the meaning of the word? It's not even stolen from DotA, it's stolen from literal meaning. "Damn Lebron is totally carrying his team tonight." "Tom Brady carried the Pats to the Super Bowl this year, the rest of the team was terrible." Carrying means what it does, you can't just make shit up about it. 'Carries' are the champions that do this most often, and not unexpectedly. | ||
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On February 26 2012 04:46 UniversalSnip wrote: i agree completely with craton. I have no idea why you would *want* to describe warmogs cass as belonging to the same category as deathcap cass when they play so differently. Glass cannon is also not the same thing because carry conveys an ability to continue dealing high damage throughout a fight and a glass cannon could just be a squishy mage with a lot of burst and no sustained damage. I think you're mistaking it, carrying conveys an ability to win, nothing else. You don't even need to deal any damage to champions to win if you have an ability that onehits towers, to give an extreme example. Another example. Heimerdinger back when he was broken was considered pretty much the hardest carry in the game because his team just won the game after he got some farm because he had totally unstoppable pushes and just took an inhibitor after inhibitor. | ||
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mr_tolkien
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MAYBE that's why there are two different terms. LoL players call everything carry. «Carry AP», «Carry AD», «GP is a carry», «Lee is a carry jungler». We don't have to cope with this stupid shit, where «carry» means «makes use of big farm»... | ||
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