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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23463 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On February 25 2012 22:31 sob3k wrote: holy balls was anyone watching Froggen's TF on stream just now? His team was totally fucked and he managed to pull a win out with patient backdooring and split pushing, great strats and good work from his team not getting engaged on 4v5 while he was out when they had Maokai Kennen Anivia. Really sick TF play Yeah that was REALLLY good play, his patience was impressive, could sit in a brush for 50+ seconds just to be certain that the enemies move away from bottom. Real good patient play | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23463 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 25 2012 22:59 Slayer91 wrote: I don't buy the melee carry crap. There's no such thing in proper play. Just another tanky dps with good scaling and mobility. She's not naturally tanky though so you have to rely on your dashes a lot. I imagine wriggles+wits end+hog+aegis+phage into randuins types build on a jungle would work. Not sure if she'll be able to jungle fast enough with that skillset, though. Yeah, without BKB it's kinda hard to have melee carries >.> | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On February 25 2012 23:03 mr_tolkien wrote: Yeah, without BKB it's kinda hard to have melee carries >.> Yup, ranged carrys rule supreme in lol through the lack of bkb and blink dagger. It allows ranged carrys to just build incredibly glass cannon while melee carrys don't have a reliable way to stick on someone leading to increasingly absurd melee kits (riven anyone?) brb gonna play some blink dagger tiny | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On February 25 2012 23:07 Two_DoWn wrote: The only proper melee carry we had in lol that worked in comp play was nocturne. Then they crushed him. i would say riven and trynd are proper melee carries too. They buy much much less purely defensive items than typical bruisers who run around with at most 1 straight up damage item and/or maybe 2-3 hybrid tank-damage items while you see alot of warmogs, aegis (k it gives 8 ad..) randuins, GA, FH on them. also ad based burst assassins like talon, garen and shaco are optimally built with much more offense than bruisers. I think we can safely say that melee carries are viable if their kit allows them to either burst or to avoid damage if they deal sustained dps. edit: on the bkb thing: not every melee carry in dota builds bkb every time and disables are much less of a threat in in lol because of tenacity, qss and the generall short length of them. | ||
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Unentschieden
Germany1471 Posts
The only actual real melee carrys are Tryndamere and Master Yi. Tryndamere actually works, and Yi is held back due to his AP gimmick and reliance on kills. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Shen top, TF mid, Noct jungle, Panth-Karthus bott (kill lane with a bit of farm splitting). TF ult for vision, Noct ult, Shen ult him, TF goes in after they reached destination, Panth ult the landing point, Karthus press R, always engage never not engage :p | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 25 2012 23:39 Unentschieden wrote: Riven and Nocturne are bruisers. The only actual real melee carrys are Tryndamere and Master Yi. Tryndamere actually works, and Yi is held back due to his AP gimmick and reliance on kills. Release noc was a melee carry cuz his ult was long enough range for you to be able to get fed on people and go pure damage. Now he is tanky dps cuz you cant get enough money for damage items. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
How do you build her to make her good late ? | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
On February 25 2012 22:28 mr_tolkien wrote: AP Sion falls off if you build him bad. But AP Sion with DFG, Rabadon, and Lich bane is a giant pain in the a**. He deals absurd amounts of damage, is very hard to kill, and after that he can go Phantom dancer and transition to hybrid. He doesn't have a godlike late game but it's nothing compared to a Garen, Eve, Kat, ... His lategame pretty much is as close to trash as you can get. Only has 2 spells, no gap closer, doesn't build tanky so he's a great target. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On February 26 2012 00:03 WhiteDog wrote: I always thought Riven was a beast early to mid game and fall off late game ? Am I wrong ? How do you build her to make her good late ? Unless things changed when they buffed her Q and nerfed her W, Riven has always been a ridiculous late-game champ due to her insane scaling and her shield that scales off AD. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272658 | ||
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Fts
Sweden369 Posts
*edit* apparently SK FF'ed (Thanks for the info dooraven) | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On February 26 2012 00:10 Fts wrote: SK Gaming just got eliminated in round one of MSI League, quite an upset imo. Any1 knows anything about team "Druckwelle"? A bunch of ~2000 elo players, likely mostly Germans. They also have a couple of lower ranked players on the roster. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23463 Posts
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
Not sure what CLGeu are doing in this tourney lol, they're meant to be playing in IPL lol. | ||
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