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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 25 2012 05:16 GMT
#2821
Damn i dont know who to buy now... new champ or naut....damn it!
Never Knows Best.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
February 25 2012 05:19 GMT
#2822
I am fine with fiora doing so much damage in a 1v1 situation from a lore perspective because she is a duelist after all. As for balance she should teach newbie carries to stay with their tank or someone with cc(if it can be interrupted) and be fine just like every other assassin.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 25 2012 05:26 GMT
#2823
On February 25 2012 14:16 Slaughter wrote:
Damn i dont know who to buy now... new champ or not....damn it!

FIFY
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 25 2012 05:26 GMT
#2824
last champ i said was insta-buy was sejuani - i insta-bought her and haven't played her yet.
before that my latest insta-buy was fizz - i love the shit out of him

gonna say now that fiora is insta-buy as well. hope she falls into the fizz category!
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
February 25 2012 05:32 GMT
#2825
Salce AP Kog so awesome, everyone go watch his stream.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
February 25 2012 05:33 GMT
#2826
On February 25 2012 14:26 gtrsrs wrote:
last champ i said was insta-buy was sejuani - i insta-bought her and haven't played her yet.
before that my latest insta-buy was fizz - i love the shit out of him

gonna say now that fiora is insta-buy as well. hope she falls into the fizz category!

Teach me how to play fizz plz T_T
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 25 2012 05:35 GMT
#2827
On February 25 2012 14:03 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
So yi 2.0 basically.

Damage steroids like yi. Highlander as a non-ult skill. Alpha strike 2.0/juggernaut ult. A gap closer that can be cast two times. Passive is arguably better than meditate for lane sustain.

RIP yi.


She seems nothing like Yi at all to me. Having an aspd steroid doesn't make a champ Yi.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 05:42:16
February 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#2828
On February 25 2012 14:26 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:16 Slaughter wrote:
Damn i dont know who to buy now... new champ or not....damn it!

FIFY


Ha I take it your not a fan of Naut then. He seems so under played...like i played against him only twice since release and usually they are played a shit ton when they first come out.
Never Knows Best.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 25 2012 06:00 GMT
#2829
On February 25 2012 14:37 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:26 HazMat wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:16 Slaughter wrote:
Damn i dont know who to buy now... new champ or not....damn it!

FIFY


Ha I take it your not a fan of Naut then. He seems so under played...like i played against him only twice since release and usually they are played a shit ton when they first come out.

Super bland hero imo. But I'm just a raging hipster that hates when new heroes aren't super amazingly fun (Ahri being the last one)
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 06:16:21
February 25 2012 06:09 GMT
#2830
On February 25 2012 14:32 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Salce AP Kog so awesome, everyone go watch his stream.

I've been wondering why AP trist isn't viable. She's kind of like AP sion except with no shield but more burst since she clears waves in one jump.

edit: trist.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 06:14:12
February 25 2012 06:13 GMT
#2831
On February 25 2012 15:00 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:37 Slaughter wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:26 HazMat wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:16 Slaughter wrote:
Damn i dont know who to buy now... new champ or not....damn it!

FIFY


Ha I take it your not a fan of Naut then. He seems so under played...like i played against him only twice since release and usually they are played a shit ton when they first come out.

Super bland hero imo. But I'm just a raging hipster that hates when new heroes aren't super amazingly fun (Ahri being the last one)


Nautilus is so strong... straight up the best CC bot in the game. Root on his auto attacks (which have massive range despite being slow, so you always hit), a pull, a huge AoE slow and a targeted AoE knockup. Even Leona is jealous of his disruption abilities. His damage is also very high with little or no damage items. He's basically like Blitzcrank except better.
I am the Town Medic.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 25 2012 06:19 GMT
#2832
On February 25 2012 15:00 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:37 Slaughter wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:26 HazMat wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:16 Slaughter wrote:
Damn i dont know who to buy now... new champ or not....damn it!

FIFY


Ha I take it your not a fan of Naut then. He seems so under played...like i played against him only twice since release and usually they are played a shit ton when they first come out.

Super bland hero imo. But I'm just a raging hipster that hates when new heroes aren't super amazingly fun (Ahri being the last one)


Heh must be just different tastes then. I love ahri but I suck with her but i looove playing champs like leona and sej. I suspect i would like blitz as well and the new guy seems to be among the same vein. Karthus is my first love tho heh.
Never Knows Best.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 25 2012 06:23 GMT
#2833
On February 25 2012 14:33 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:26 gtrsrs wrote:
last champ i said was insta-buy was sejuani - i insta-bought her and haven't played her yet.
before that my latest insta-buy was fizz - i love the shit out of him

gonna say now that fiora is insta-buy as well. hope she falls into the fizz category!

Teach me how to play fizz plz T_T


with fizz your number 1 goal has to be having fun

enemy champ harassing you, thereby limiting your creep-killing fun? just kill them. WQautoigniteE
seems fun to towerdive? DO IT
like SHAAAAAAAARKS? ult mothafucka, just do it!
want to build AP cause it seems fun? SHEEN DEATHCAP LICHBANE
want to build on-hit bruiser cause you fking want to? AEGIS WIT'S MALLET BRO, NOW YOU'RE HAVING FUN
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 06:37:20
February 25 2012 06:34 GMT
#2834
On February 25 2012 11:17 overt wrote:
Wait, at level 16 her ult is a 1K damage attack in a 1v1? People are going to qq so hard over new champion.


I don't think people know which way the damage works yet - It could be 100 + .65*4, like how Ziggs Mines work, or it could be 100 + 65 + 42.25 + 27.45 + 17.85 like Galio's Bulwark.

I think the latter is significantly more likely for it, because a 2.5 nuke is way more reasonable than a 3.6 nuke.

e: The LolWiki numbers seem to be going with a 2.5~ nuke, which does seem absurdly strong. Then again, it is an ultimate that it'd be hard to single-target on a duelist champion. We shall see.
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hTRen
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada55 Posts
February 25 2012 06:39 GMT
#2835
On February 25 2012 15:13 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 15:00 HazMat wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:37 Slaughter wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:26 HazMat wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:16 Slaughter wrote:
Damn i dont know who to buy now... new champ or not....damn it!

FIFY


Ha I take it your not a fan of Naut then. He seems so under played...like i played against him only twice since release and usually they are played a shit ton when they first come out.

Super bland hero imo. But I'm just a raging hipster that hates when new heroes aren't super amazingly fun (Ahri being the last one)


Nautilus is so strong... straight up the best CC bot in the game. Root on his auto attacks (which have massive range despite being slow, so you always hit), a pull, a huge AoE slow and a targeted AoE knockup. Even Leona is jealous of his disruption abilities. His damage is also very high with little or no damage items. He's basically like Blitzcrank except better.


Not only that but his shield resets his auto attack cd, so if you pull, hit+aoe, then pop shiled fast enough you can get another fast hit to do massive damage early.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 25 2012 07:22 GMT
#2836
On February 25 2012 15:34 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 11:17 overt wrote:
Wait, at level 16 her ult is a 1K damage attack in a 1v1? People are going to qq so hard over new champion.


I don't think people know which way the damage works yet - It could be 100 + .65*4, like how Ziggs Mines work, or it could be 100 + 65 + 42.25 + 27.45 + 17.85 like Galio's Bulwark.

I think the latter is significantly more likely for it, because a 2.5 nuke is way more reasonable than a 3.6 nuke.

e: The LolWiki numbers seem to be going with a 2.5~ nuke, which does seem absurdly strong. Then again, it is an ultimate that it'd be hard to single-target on a duelist champion. We shall see.


The first hit is 140 damage. The wiki already has the math done, it's ~340 at lvl 1, ~700 lvl 2, ~1060 lvl 3(although when I did the math with the a+(a x .65) + (b x .65) ... formula I got slightly higher numbers). The ult is going to be straight bananas in 1v1, but in a teamfight it will actually be a really weak AoE(<150 damage per target, 240 damage to initial target since it will also be the last target).

What does remain to be seen is if you can be cc'd out of the ult, or if it's interrupted by flash or other blinks.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
February 25 2012 07:37 GMT
#2837
Keep in mind its ~1000 before armor. In reality it would be much less. This isn't the 800 damage feast from old cho-gath.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 08:01:17
February 25 2012 08:00 GMT
#2838
There's also the fact that every hit applies on-hit effects, which won't have diminished damage.

Wit's End will add 210 damage to the ultimate by itself.
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Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 08:09:11
February 25 2012 08:07 GMT
#2839
I really want to find out if fiora can be built like on hit Warwick. 140% free attack speed and a ult that procs wits and madreds 6 times has got to be fun coupled with either tankyness or flat ad(wuju style).
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
February 25 2012 08:18 GMT
#2840
I love theory crafting unreleased champions.

This will be my first ever instabuy. I've been saving IP for weeks.
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