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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 25 2012 00:02 GMT
#2781
She's actually built as pure AD sometimes. It's not that bad, her steroid is pretty nice. however she has no movement skills and her range is quite strong, and she has zero CC. BTW you obviously can't go cougar when doing AD nidalee build, it's possible to do but it's just weaker than the standard ADs. you basically are going to be without ulti as you can't use cougar for anything but pushing and running with that build.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 00:38:16
February 25 2012 00:36 GMT
#2782
Just go ad nid top. Strong, and no need to go bot where you're inferior to every other ad carry in lane.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 25 2012 00:48 GMT
#2783
I feel like every time I top Talon I just get countered or can't do anything since I get ganked pre-6. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is he just not that great of a champ?
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 25 2012 00:51 GMT
#2784
On February 25 2012 09:48 Mondeezy wrote:
I feel like every time I top Talon I just get countered or can't do anything since I get ganked pre-6. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is he just not that great of a champ?

Yes. Talon goes mid. He is an anti caster.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 25 2012 00:51 GMT
#2785
On February 25 2012 08:55 epoc wrote:
How did the clg eu vs tsm scrims go?

From what I saw TSM got trashed, except when CLG went Hueueueimer mid.
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 25 2012 00:54 GMT
#2786
It sounds like you're doing plenty of things wrong, like pushing your wave too hard when its not safe to, not using your spells effectively when escaping, and picking talon in bad matchups. Talon isn't picked heaps, but it seems like he has better matchups mid, given his kit.

Getting ganked pre 6 sounds like you're pushing too hard with rake, and then not using your blink + flash in an effective manner for escapes.

Kinda hard to know without replays though.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 25 2012 01:03 GMT
#2787
On February 25 2012 09:54 Dgiese wrote:
It sounds like you're doing plenty of things wrong, like pushing your wave too hard when its not safe to, not using your spells effectively when escaping, and picking talon in bad matchups. Talon isn't picked heaps, but it seems like he has better matchups mid, given his kit.

Getting ganked pre 6 sounds like you're pushing too hard with rake, and then not using your blink + flash in an effective manner for escapes.

Kinda hard to know without replays though.


Sounds about right, I played him mid one game and did much better. I don't push the lane too much, just a matter of Sion or Panth or whomever stunning me, jungler running in on me, dead before I can even flash. Thanks for the tips Dgi and T_D ^_^
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 25 2012 01:10 GMT
#2788
Additionally, if there are certain champs that you know you can't play well against, then pick talon after their lanes have been picked. I don't know if you're playing draft or ranked, but one of the main skills is 'counterpicking'. I.e. if you're first pick and worried that they will pick a champ that counters talon, then pick a safer champion, or ask if a teammate is willing to do a trade.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 25 2012 01:18 GMT
#2789
On February 25 2012 09:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 09:48 Mondeezy wrote:
I feel like every time I top Talon I just get countered or can't do anything since I get ganked pre-6. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is he just not that great of a champ?

Yes. Talon goes mid. He is an anti caster.


You still have to be careful about who you pick him against. Some common mids like Morgana still eat Talon for breakfast.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 25 2012 01:19 GMT
#2790
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Fiora

New champion time. She is kinda like Talon, but more damage less utility. I think this champion may have one of the highest and most reliable bursts in the game, depending on her scaling. Three gap closers plus minor movespeed steroid will chase down anyone. She doesn't have any defensive or escape mechanisms though besides parry. Based on her kit, I don't think she'll be a competitive pick, simply because without any sort of utility or method to survive teamfights, she'll suffer from Master Yi syndrome. I would play her BT Atmogs GA. What do you guys think?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 25 2012 01:20 GMT
#2791
On February 25 2012 10:18 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 09:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 25 2012 09:48 Mondeezy wrote:
I feel like every time I top Talon I just get countered or can't do anything since I get ganked pre-6. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is he just not that great of a champ?

Yes. Talon goes mid. He is an anti caster.


You still have to be careful about who you pick him against. Some common mids like Morgana still eat Talon for breakfast.

Talon counters Morg hard. All his damage is physical, her shield only blocks magic.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 01:24:42
February 25 2012 01:24 GMT
#2792
On February 25 2012 10:19 Chairman Ray wrote:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Fiora

New champion time. She is kinda like Talon, but more damage less utility. I think this champion may have one of the highest and most reliable bursts in the game, depending on her scaling. Three gap closers plus minor movespeed steroid will chase down anyone. She doesn't have any defensive or escape mechanisms though besides parry. Based on her kit, I don't think she'll be a competitive pick, simply because without any sort of utility or method to survive teamfights, she'll suffer from Master Yi syndrome. I would play her BT Atmogs GA. What do you guys think?

Based on the potential of the kit, she is a jungler's wet dream on par with shaco. Ad, As steroids? Blinks? Yes please.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 25 2012 01:33 GMT
#2793
On February 25 2012 07:57 Juicyfruit wrote:
I have a simple thought-experiment for you guys:

Suppose that there's a special option that says this:

For the next 99 games, you will start the game with 1 less AD
On the 100th game, you will start the game with 50 extra AD

Would you take it?


I completely approve of this chain of thought and hereby announce adding a crit red to the page I use for autoattacking douchecannoues.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 25 2012 01:36 GMT
#2794
I hate speculations but yeah she has the potential to be quite the jungler with such a...friendly kit for such things. Mind you again numbers and play is what we need to make any real judgements or either items or positions. *shrug*
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 25 2012 01:38 GMT
#2795
On February 25 2012 10:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 10:18 Ferrose wrote:
On February 25 2012 09:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 25 2012 09:48 Mondeezy wrote:
I feel like every time I top Talon I just get countered or can't do anything since I get ganked pre-6. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is he just not that great of a champ?

Yes. Talon goes mid. He is an anti caster.


You still have to be careful about who you pick him against. Some common mids like Morgana still eat Talon for breakfast.

Talon counters Morg hard. All his damage is physical, her shield only blocks magic.


Morg still outranges Talon pretty hard. Talon is gonna have a tough time even getting within range to use Cutthroat on her. And failing that, her shield blocks his silence.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 25 2012 01:43 GMT
#2796
I just played against a Skarner who built like full AP.

Kages->SorcBoots->Lichbane->Rylais->Deathcap

lol

He did no deeps.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 01:47:01
February 25 2012 01:46 GMT
#2797
On February 25 2012 10:38 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 10:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 25 2012 10:18 Ferrose wrote:
On February 25 2012 09:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 25 2012 09:48 Mondeezy wrote:
I feel like every time I top Talon I just get countered or can't do anything since I get ganked pre-6. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is he just not that great of a champ?

Yes. Talon goes mid. He is an anti caster.


You still have to be careful about who you pick him against. Some common mids like Morgana still eat Talon for breakfast.

Talon counters Morg hard. All his damage is physical, her shield only blocks magic.


Morg still outranges Talon pretty hard. Talon is gonna have a tough time even getting within range to use Cutthroat on her. And failing that, her shield blocks his silence.


the morgs you play against must all have godlike reflexes then, seeing as how cutthroat is instantaneous. if her shield comes up premature, don't jump, then jump on her when it's down. talon should be able to go apeshit on morg. at least pre 6. post 6 she might be able to fight back, but i think he would still be able to burst her down before she got her stun to hit
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 25 2012 02:04 GMT
#2798
I take back what I said about Riot shying away from letting the ult be extremely punishing in 1v1's, even with the damage reduction and no ratio at all those numbers are pretty sick, and unlike Omnislash it seems it can only target champions, so a creepwave isn't going to save you. Good on them.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 25 2012 02:15 GMT
#2799
On February 25 2012 11:04 red_ wrote:
I take back what I said about Riot shying away from letting the ult be extremely punishing in 1v1's, even with the damage reduction and no ratio at all those numbers are pretty sick, and unlike Omnislash it seems it can only target champions, so a creepwave isn't going to save you. Good on them.

Presumably there will be a ratio, it's just not known yet, I guess.

Though TBH she could just be a Wit's+Triforce champ with that kit, and not care about the ratios (since her ult applies on-hits on every strike).
Moderator
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
February 25 2012 02:17 GMT
#2800
On February 25 2012 10:43 iCanada wrote:
I just played against a Skarner who built like full AP.

Kages->SorcBoots->Lichbane->Rylais->Deathcap

lol

He did no deeps.

AP skarnbro needs gunblade and nashors.

I know this.
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