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[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 139
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MrEnzyme
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On February 25 2012 07:41 wei2coolman wrote: Is it just me. or does Udyr just do a lot of damage in mid game without getting a lot of offensive items? yea, he's a pretty unreasonable champion sometimes. | ||
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qanik
Denmark1899 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 25 2012 07:52 Requizen wrote: Sadly, I changed it. I still respect your opinion! Most depressing news ive heard all week. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:09 qanik wrote: Lol did reginald just flash in when he was already in range for ulti just to focus down janna while clg is actually killing the people that matters on TSM's team? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314312 | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On February 25 2012 07:40 iCanada wrote: Wouldn't the fact that you got super lucky with crits make it less likely for you to get super lucky with the lottery? If they both have a 0.0002 percent chance then then both happening to you is like 0.00000004% chance. I don't think that's how statistics work. I haven't taking a statistics class yet though so I don't know. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:12 mr_tolkien wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314312 We need to have a discussion about that. I was under the impression Neo gave us permission to use the GD to talk about streams and such. I have no problem with Beyonder's thread and actually think that might be a good idea to keep bumped when new scrims happen, but realistically I dont think there is anything wrong with discussing scrims here, especially since a lot of concepts from scrims tend to make good discussion. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On February 25 2012 01:54 Two_DoWn wrote: Whats k? watch and learn sir | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On February 25 2012 07:57 Juicyfruit wrote: I have a simple thought-experiment for you guys: Suppose that there's a special option that says this: For the next 99 games, you will start the game with 1 less AD On the 100th game, you will start the game with 50 extra AD Would you take it? This is a good way to think about it to an extent, and yet it isn't quite accurate because so far everyone has only been calculation damage for auto attacks. there are a lot of champs who have abilities that scale with AD and not with autos. I would take the crit rune with champs like gp, trynd, and most AD carries whose damage sources scale with crit. On panth, jarv, talon, riven the extra AD goes a lot further than just autos since a lot of their damage scaling doesn't utilize crit. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
On February 25 2012 07:36 Two_DoWn wrote: We dont know exactly how crit works. I dunno about you guys, but it sure as shit felt like I crit a hell of a lot back when there was the 4% mastery. Well I suspect that League normalizes its random number generation which would, in general, lead you to expect a crit faster. | ||
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gerd1022
United States58 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:12 HazMat wrote: I don't think that's how statistics work. I haven't taking a statistics class yet though so I don't know. You are right, they don't work that way. Since winning the lottery and critting are independent, the probability of one happening after the other has happened is exactly the same as if the other didn't happen. Unless there are mysterious forces at work here that link an unlikely crit and scratch tickets. Not sure about that. (I actually am taking a probability class this semester.) | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:35 gerd1022 wrote: You are right, they don't work that way. Since winning the lottery and critting are independent, the probability of one happening after the other has happened is exactly the same as if the other didn't happen. Unless there are mysterious forces at work here that link an unlikely crit and scratch tickets. Not sure about that. (I actually am taking a probability class this semester.) Yup. That math is confusing two independent events. If you crit someone in a game, it's totally unrelated to buying a lottery ticket. Therefore if the probability of winning the lottery is some chance with p% of success, you still only have p% of success whatever happens in your game of LoL. If you are concerned with the probability of both critting someone in a game AND winning the lottery concurrently, then yes you would multiply the two probabilities. If you're looking at "what's the probability I win the lottery given the fact I crit someone in a game of LoL" it's still p%. The lottery wo/man cares not for your GP crits. Of course, this is a classical interpretation. A Bayesian or Epistemic analysis is beyond the scope of this General Discussion Thread and the author recommends further reading for those interested in these topics. | ||
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gerd1022
United States58 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:45 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Yup. That math is confusing two independent events. If you crit someone in a game, it's totally unrelated to buying a lottery ticket. Therefore if the probability of winning the lottery is some chance with p% of success, you still only have p% of success whatever happens in your game of LoL. If you are concerned with the probability of both critting someone in a game AND winning the lottery concurrently, then yes you would multiply the two probabilities. If you're looking at "what's the probability I win the lottery given the fact I crit someone in a game of LoL" it's still p%. The lottery wo/man cares not for your GP crits. Of course, this is a classical interpretation. A Bayesian or Epistemic analysis is beyond the scope of this General Discussion Thread and the author recommends further reading for those interested in these topics. However, if you don't buy a lottery ticket unless you crit, then your chance of winning the lottery goes up infinitely since you can't win if you don't play. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23463 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:07 Mogwai wrote: yea, he's a pretty unreasonable champion sometimes. Sometimes meaning times you get to auto hit people for a long time in fights. huehue (not a given on udyr unfortunately.) | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:35 gerd1022 wrote: You are right, they don't work that way. Since winning the lottery and critting are independent, the probability of one happening after the other has happened is exactly the same as if the other didn't happen. Unless there are mysterious forces at work here that link an unlikely crit and scratch tickets. Not sure about that. (I actually am taking a probability class this semester.) LoL RNG doesn't care about statistics though. I'm not sure how it works, but it basically functions like this: 10% crit, first hit no crit. Now you have like 11% crit rate. No crit, your critrate keeps on rising until you crit. Then it lowers to like 6% or whatever. If you crit a second time it lowers down to like 2% or whatever. If you don't crit for like 40 hits in a row with 10% crit chance the crit chance's going to be really high, probably even at 50%. Again I'm not sure about the exact numbers, but this is how the RNG in LoL works, still normalizing the numbers at the actual crit percentage over ~1000 attacks. If you like thinking coinflip, it likes to make it more like HTHTHTHTHT instead of HHHHTTHTTT Though its true that the chances of the lottery ticket and crit are independent, the overall chance of both happening can still be calculated in that way and it is correct | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:56 Kenpachi wrote: how come we dont see Nidalee being played as AD carry in bot lane? Because she needs levels to not suck ass. Also you can't build her standard AD build because then if you ever try to cougar form into a fight you'll get blown up instantly. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:56 Kenpachi wrote: how come we dont see Nidalee being played as AD carry in bot lane? Crappy range. | ||
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