[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 131

On February 24 2012 07:35 Shikyo wrote:
Oh something more about Yorick: From some advice by Kerp I've been experimenting with maxing Q first leaving W and E at lvl 1 and it's sooooo good! Even lvl 1 E is enough to beat the opponent in nearly all cases, and especially vs melees whenever they come to lasthit you hit them with Q and he's got a 100 dps ghoul chasing him and you have insane movespeed buff, completely wreck lanes with maxing Q first instead of E like most people seem to be doing.

Also if maxing Q was standard that's my bad I didn't know <.< But it's iiincredibly powerful and makes you a TON scarier in early teamfights as well.

(Yeah this probably could go to the yorick thread but I didnt find it, guess it's kind of dead .-. )

On February 24 2012 07:23 Shikyo wrote:

Think I've seen saint jungle naut in like 5 games and his combined score has been like 4-25 or so, might not be the stream to watch for nautilus gameplay

I think TeddyRO and chu8 are ones that somehow make nautilus work and I have no clue how

On February 24 2012 07:28 Mogwai wrote:
fwiw, I think WW lategame on 6 items is fucking crazy OP. his item scaling is pretty strong, dunno where you're coming from saying that his item scaling is weak.

On February 24 2012 07:28 Mogwai wrote:
fwiw, I think WW lategame on 6 items is fucking crazy OP. his item scaling is pretty strong, dunno where you're coming from saying that his item scaling is weak.

On February 24 2012 07:50 Slayer91 wrote:


Never said his item scaling is weak, I just think his lategame can be hard because QSS ad carries are a real bitch.

Saying fed WW and ww in the lategame are different thing.s

I think everyone's kind of overreacting to it anyway. I never said these guys are not effective lategame, it's just they have to be really careful in teamfights and are comparably weaker than in midgame where you can just not give a fuck.

I mean a lot of it comes down to keeping up with their AD carry in terms of farm. If you have randuins and heart and they don't have a lategame AD carry (say they have graves or cait or ashe or smth) you're doing better, but a full item vayne/kog/trist is just a nightmare.

On February 24 2012 07:46 Seuss wrote:


I actually made a jungle video for Nautilus. It's not my best execution, but the principles are sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjHm0JShcI8

I use my full Armor rune page for Nautilus. This extends the duration of Nautilus' W, which reduces your damage incurred and increases clear speed. W also resets your auto-attack, so you can be clever with it. It has a ridiculous duration so you can activate it 5-6 seconds before Wolves spawn in order to have it available sooner on Blue (useful if you're getting a leash).

He's a standard Philo + HoG jungler and maxes W first. W is so strong you simply don't need Wriggle's, even for buff camps. You never lose health thanks to the shield, and you do metric craptons of damage through the midgame as long as your shield is up.

With just Philo you have plenty of mana to Q everywhere if you need to get places in a hurry. His ganks are ridiculous. Just remember that if they run into the side bushes you want to hit the wall with Q first so that 3-5 seconds later you can then Q the actual champion (after your other CC is spent). I've done some other crazy stuff like flashing over walls Fiddle-style and then hooking/ulting people.

The biggest problem with Nautilus is that late-game his damage falls off, and if you use your shield to block damage you do even less. Don't just blindly activate your shield at the start of team fights, you're a tank and you can afford to take those hits to preserve the crazy DPS that comes from maintaining the shield.

On February 24 2012 07:54 Two_DoWn wrote:

You can just be patient. Unlike Malz, you arent ult dependent. You just wait till a high priority target uses their qss then nab them. Before that you can just do bruiser stuff with q and your e active.

On February 24 2012 07:46 Terranasaur wrote:


Which 6 items?

I've been fooling around with the WW the last few days and so far I have only discovered builds that don't work. I mean, he is pretty strong no matter what you build... but I have yet to hit that "omgwtfpwn" stage I see WW's get at all the time.

On February 24 2012 07:15 Shiv. wrote:
This is a pretty interesting amount of data about the top NA AD carries gathered by a fine gentleman and scholar.

Doublelift
RS vs. Dignitas Loss Corki 5 2 3 18.2 480 (52:53) 61.54%

On February 24 2012 07:46 Terranasaur wrote:


Which 6 items?

I've been fooling around with the WW the last few days and so far I have only discovered builds that don't work. I mean, he is pretty strong no matter what you build... but I have yet to hit that "omgwtfpwn" stage I see WW's get at all the time.

On February 24 2012 07:54 Two_DoWn wrote:

You can just be patient. Unlike Malz, you arent ult dependent. You just wait till a high priority target uses their qss then nab them. Before that you can just do bruiser stuff with q and your e active.

On February 24 2012 07:57 Requizen wrote:
Also, Trump streaming LoL? I remember watching him play Terran in Masters. Not the best, but he was really entertaining. I wonder how good he is at this.

On February 24 2012 08:10 r.Evo wrote:


This thing is pretty interesting, but also imo rather non-conclusive. I really doubt the samplesize is enough to show more than some light tendencies (e.g. as someone pointed out qtpie has more kills/deaths than chaox which you can conclude a more reckless playstyle from).

Then again, there are so many variables that you can't draw a lot from it.




wth was this game though? 480cs too stronk.

On February 24 2012 05:26 Shiv. wrote:

Nidalee is just a dumbass character because all she needs is to hit 6 and then she magically wins her lane 99% of the time. She hits like a truck with just defensive items, it's incredibly hard to gank her, she doesn't care if she's behind because she'll just evaporate a creepwave within a splitsecond and then jump around being a fucking cocksucking cat who gives no fucks. Seriously, fuck Nidalee, she's the bane of a top laner's existance.

On February 24 2012 08:17 wei2coolman wrote:

BT(replaces wrigs in super lategame), Frozen heart, Wit's end, Madreds blood razer, Merc treads. Frozenmallet (or triforce)

On February 24 2012 08:24 JBright wrote:


Trump's been streaming for the last week at least. He's like ~lvl 15 on that account (maybe a smurf?) so he's still got a ways to go.

On February 24 2012 07:46 Terranasaur wrote:


Which 6 items?

I've been fooling around with the WW the last few days and so far I have only discovered builds that don't work. I mean, he is pretty strong no matter what you build... but I have yet to hit that "omgwtfpwn" stage I see WW's get at all the time.

On February 24 2012 09:22 Requizen wrote:

Oh man, he's kinda noob at the game, but he's hilarious to watch. His mechanics aren't bad, he just doesn't know much about the game it seems.