EPT[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 119
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:20 wei2coolman wrote: Just got buttraped as GP against Riven on top. How do I prevent this? EDIT: How do I build/deal with Riven in lane? She just bullies me around. You go to the GP thread and ask that question. On February 23 2012 14:22 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: how come twitch isn't permabanned? Combination of the fact only Rincent plays him and most people (wrongly) think he is worthless. | ||
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NSANE.hydra
United States644 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:31 barbsq wrote: gp max w and get lots of armor. standard bad gp matchup kinda stuff. Honestly there are very few if any lanes that can 100% crush gp maxing w and speccing defensively. Pretty valid suggestion here. The way you play GP against pantheon (at least with item choices/maxing W) should be just as effective against riven. Riven will still be able to farm np, but at least she won't be bullying you as badly. This discussion probably belongs in the GP thread though :3 | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Things that I'm thinking would be on there are: -any major tournies (obv) -any planned scrims (ex. CLG eu and na weekly scrims) -go4lol -AHGL -anything else? I think the biggest one would be planned scrims. I think a lot of the teams plan scrims with each other a day or so in advance, if you were watching a stream and here of something it would be nice to consolidate it into one place. Then someone can just come along and say "hey, so this is what's going on today; right now; next hour; ect." | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:38 emperorchampion wrote: Does anyone know of a LoL calendar? I really want something similar to the one on TL where I can just look and find out what is happening on a particular day. If there is nothing like this, I wouldn't mind creating a thread and then just updating the OP everyday with new info. Things that I'm thinking would be on there are: -any major tournies (obv) -any planned scrims (ex. CLG eu and na weekly scrims) -go4lol -AHGL -anything else? the weekly IPL stuff? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Ah yeah dat too. Also another one would be podcasts and such. Like there is a decent amount of content out in the LoL scene, I just don't think anyone has organized it at all. Reddit by nature just doesn't work, and all the sites are too fractured/ don't have a really strong content creating community behind them (my feeling). | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:45 Requizen wrote: Guys, I need help. I can not play AP carries to save my life. Halp. i suck at ap carries as well, but my standard plan every time i end up having to do it (for whatever reason, it's happened a couple times) i pick somebody who can shove a lane and go gank, so sion, morg, malz etc, and then just farm until 6 and then just gank lanes all day, coming back to tower every once in awhile. I guess if you really want to get good at AP, it may not be the best for learning matchups and whatnot, but pretty quick and dirty way to at least get from shit-tier to mediocre. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 23 2012 13:53 rob.au wrote: What I don't understand is why riot bothered go and do this big "stealth remake." The reason stealth was considered overpowered in LoL was because of the skills themselves, the duration, and the fact they were non-ultimates and thus available from level 1 onwards, the stealth mechanic itself was not broken. If you look at the stealth skills in dota or hon, you will notice they are basically weaker than what was in LoL. This is coming from a game where every other skill is basically far stronger than it's LoL equivilent. All they had to do was make stealth spells ultimates only, since any early level stealth is just an unfun game mechanic. By level 6 it's already been established what lane they are in, misses can be called, counter wards can be bought, etc... Bounty hunter, Clinkz, Broodmother, and Weaver all have non-ultimate stealths to name a few. The only hero in DotA with an stealth ultimate is Riki. -.-; I also don't agree that stealth skills in DotA are weaker. If anything they're stronger. BH stealth gives a pretty large bonus damage when you leave stealth and Clinkz stealth basically gives you (almost) max movespeed. Both of those have 100% uptime at lvl 1. Weaver stealth does give max movespeed and also deals minor damage. At lvl 4 there's only a 2 second downtime. Broodmother has webs that give her stealth while she's in them and they also give +hp regen and movespeed. There's a lot more, but those are the biggest offenders I can think of off the top of my head. You really can't compare stealth in LoL and DotA :\ | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 23 2012 15:03 Ryuu314 wrote: You really can't compare stealth in LoL and DotA :\ To be fair, you can't really compare anything in LoL and DotA, given that lots of heroes have regular skills that are as strong as/stronger than ultimates in LoL (Sven stun being straight up better than Sej ult, Gyro's autoattack steroid being straight up better than Twitch's ult, Shadow Priest's Shallow Grave being straight up better than Trynd's ult, etc.). Stealth being OK on regular skills in DotA really doesn't mean anything for LoL. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 23 2012 15:07 TheYango wrote: To be fair, you can't really compare anything in LoL and DotA, given that lots of heroes have regular skills that are as strong as/stronger than ultimates in LoL (Sven stun being straight up better than Sej ult, Gyro's autoattack steroid being straight up better than Twitch's ult, Shadow Priest's Shallow Grave being straight up better than Trynd's ult, etc.). Stealth being OK on regular skills in DotA really doesn't mean anything for LoL. I think part of the reason stealth isn't a big problem in DotA (other than in low level pubs) is simply because stuff is so damn strong. Stealth heroes are inherently squishy and since they tend to not have hard cc, unstealthing at the wrong time can often mean being insta-gibbed before they can accomplish much. The problem with stealth in LoL is that there simply isn't a truly feasible way to counter it. Pink wards and oracles helps, but they are a HUGE drain on gold and are circumventable. Like in DotA when Gondar unstealths with like...700 hp to gank, your Lion can just one shot him -.-; Whereas pre-nerf Eve would show up, stun you, and you honestly couldn't do much since it was incredibly unlikely that you'd be able to do anything other than run or die. The current metagame also probably exacerbate the problem. Having only 1 real support, maybe 2, being ward/map control bitch means that it's that much harder to deal with a roaming invisible dude. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On February 23 2012 15:14 Chairman Ray wrote: Are there any pro level support players that stream? I need to go learn more support. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308013¤tpage=157#3133 | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:45 Requizen wrote: Guys, I need help. I can not play AP carries to save my life. Halp. I have the same problem. I'm far too defensive and basically fell into the mentality of afk-farming lane and not ganking at all (playing top lane all day erry day). I've been playing annie again for the past two days, I feel she's a really good champion to get into APs again. And with the influx of all these new APs, people really underestimate her - won all my games where I played annie, dunno why I don't main her :O | ||
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:31 barbsq wrote: gp max w and get lots of armor. standard bad gp matchup kinda stuff. Honestly there are very few if any lanes that can 100% crush gp maxing w and speccing defensively. Maxing W is probably a bad idea. You will never be able to kill Riven one on one, and maxing W just gives her a bigger advantage when your jungle comes to gank. The best option is to never let Riven kill you, and stay equal or higher than her farm. Max Q and use it to farm, grab an early philo stone to cope with mana problems. Stay out of her range of influence, and if she catches you in a stun, eat an orange (level 1 orange) and run away. Do not trade with her. Eventually the gold will be in your favor (from Q), and you'll come out on top. Also, try not to push your lane, once she starts freezing and zoning you, you're screwed. That's how I beat Riven with GP. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/29300/?p=1 | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
In a slightly related note, is it just me or is Jiji not very good at Malzahar (compared to his other heroes)? | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:45 Requizen wrote: Guys, I need help. I can not play AP carries to save my life. Halp. Play them, lose 300 elo, go back to top/jungle/AD/support, gain 300 elo. Decide AP carries are retarded. Repeat at a random point in the future. I think I'm doing this perfectly. =D PS: Fuck AP carries. Just fuck em. Edit: Different topic but don't wanna dblpost; - why does the DotA forum always make things so much more shiny than us? Their proteam thread too good to not copycat: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314482 | ||
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