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So I started a week ago, reached level 9 and I already want to quit.
Some background: I have played dota before and understand last hitting, ganking, support, etc. I joined because I was bored and some friends play it and suggested me to try it a while ago but I was busy with SC2.
Main problem is that almost every game there is at least 1 AFKer. I am sick of playing games that seem pointless because everyone's basically waiting for the timer to reach 20 minutes or sitting in the base in dominion so the points drain to 0. I am not sure why their system rewards people for losing games. They should have a system where the losing team doesn't get EXP or something..
A minor problem is that half the games I play are with people who don't speak English or just don't talk at all and do whatever they want. That is expected I guess and I don't really care since this is lower level and hopefully that changes.
The only time the game is somewhat enjoyable is when I play with some friends.. I really wonder how a new player can get into this game.
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On March 23 2012 09:59 darkcloud8282 wrote:
So I started a week ago, reached level 9 and I already want to quit.
Some background: I have played dota before and understand last hitting, ganking, support, etc. I joined because I was bored and some friends play it and suggested me to try it a while ago but I was busy with SC2.
Main problem is that almost every game there is at least 1 AFKer. I am sick of playing games that seem pointless because everyone's basically waiting for the timer to reach 20 minutes or sitting in the base in dominion so the points drain to 0.
This is pretty easy to explain. If you make an account referral to a new account, you can level up that account to level 5 and get a free 4 win IP boost. For some reason people think it's more fun to troll and afk rather than do bot games (which is more efficient).
Until around level 12 and above there will almost always be an afker or troll because everyone just wants to level and farm IP and they don't really care about the result of the game. Once you hit level 15 or so it is pretty rare to get a leaver/troll. Just stick with it or play bot games until you level up a bit more.
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OK so I finally reached level 20.
How should I go about building my T3 runes? I realize that I won't be able to fill out a rune page for every type of champion immediately, but I have enough to fill out for one champ/champ type.
I am still constantly trying out new champs every week and want to be able to try out all the champs and play effectively with them.
Is there a good rune that all champs of a type use (i.e. if I want to make a generic AD Carry rune page, what runes should I get)?
Should I pick a type, like AP Mid, and go for that first? Should I pick 2 or 3 types?
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Flat armor yellows are without a doubt the most universally useful rune.
After that are flat mr blues.
MS quints are also universally useful. Your reds could either be arpen or mpen, with arpen having more of an effect for ads than mpen would for mages.
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forget how to read. seriously. just dont read anything anyone says to you. your will start bleeding due to all the verbal rape
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On March 21 2012 09:24 sung_moon wrote:
Going to pick up Nocturne this week anybody can help me figure out how to jungle?
Is there a certain pattern of creep I should attack at a certain timing or general rules of thumb every jungler should learn and apply? Thanks.
Certain timings junglers should know is that the first buff camp first spawns at 1:55. 7:20 it respawns. Blue and Red golem respawn on a 5 minute timer. Golems and wolves spawn on a 1 minute timer, and wraiths on 55 seconds. Dragon is a 6 minute timer, but I rarely keep track. Baron respawns after 7 minutes.
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Newbie question: How can you destroy opponent wards?
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On March 24 2012 11:43 Celestia wrote:
Newbie question: How can you destroy opponent wards?
by placing a vision ward near it or using an oracles elixir
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On March 24 2012 11:43 Celestia wrote:
Newbie question: How can you destroy opponent wards?
you need vision of them first, either through a skill that grants vision (like TF's ultimate) or through an item that grants vision (vision ward, oracle's elixir)
then they take 3 hits to kill. some champs apply 2 hits with certain skills (like shyvana's twin dragon bite Q) so they can kill them more quickly
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Thx, also how do you know a champ is good for top or bot? I don't get it (mid is pretty ovb). ?_?
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On March 24 2012 12:27 Celestia wrote:
Thx, also how do you know a champ is good for top or bot? I don't get it (mid is pretty ovb). ?_?
bottom lane is usually ranged physical damage dealers
top lane is usually melee, with good self-sustain
these are by no means set in stone
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I'm looking to pick up a jungler in the 450-1350ip range... Does anyone have suggestions for a champion for someone new to jungling?
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On March 25 2012 03:15 elt wrote:
I'm looking to pick up a jungler in the 450-1350ip range... Does anyone have suggestions for a champion for someone new to jungling?
Warwick.for sustsain.
Rammus for tanking.
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More newb questions 
I see in some threads people saying that a certain champion is "perma-banned". What does that mean?
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On March 27 2012 01:06 BlasiuS wrote:More newb questions I see in some threads people saying that a certain champion is "perma-banned". What does that mean?
Usually when you play draft normals/ranked or at tournaments, certain champions are usually always banned in the banning phase, either because they're too strong or just generally more efficient than another champ. Recently it's been Shen and maybe a bit of Janna.
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When you go into draft mode (you need at least 16 champs for this, including the ones from the free week), picks are ordered, and the first pick from each team ban 3 champions (1 by 1 taking turns) before picks start. Some champs are almost always banned at a given period, so they're "permabanned".
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I don't think shaco and shen are so strong that they're going to be permabanned, it's more that they force you to play defensively, leading to unfun play so people ban them. If shaco's open after bans I would rather neither team pick him up than have a FP shaco on my team.
edit: just realized what thread this was. Yeah shaco/shen are really strong at low elos/summoner levels because no one knows how to play against them, but on the other hand so's twitch.
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On March 27 2012 01:55 seRapH wrote:
I don't think shaco and shen are so strong that they're going to be permabanned, it's more that they force you to play defensively, leading to unfun play so people ban them. If shaco's open after bans I would rather neither team pick him up than have a FP shaco on my team.
edit: just realized what thread this was. Yeah shaco/shen are really strong at low elos/summoner levels because no one knows how to play against them, but on the other hand so's twitch.
Right now, they ARE permabanned at my Elo. 1600+, and generally firstpicked if not. I'd agree Shaco not exactly being strong but rather annoying, but in fact I simply ban Shaco because you cannot trust your team NOT to feed him to insanity.
Concerning Shen, the kid's just stupid. Haven't seen him lose lane against anything but WW. Also, really good if your top laner doesn't exploit him TPing into every.single.gank
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On March 27 2012 01:58 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 01:55 seRapH wrote:
I don't think shaco and shen are so strong that they're going to be permabanned, it's more that they force you to play defensively, leading to unfun play so people ban them. If shaco's open after bans I would rather neither team pick him up than have a FP shaco on my team.
edit: just realized what thread this was. Yeah shaco/shen are really strong at low elos/summoner levels because no one knows how to play against them, but on the other hand so's twitch. Right now, they ARE permabanned at my Elo. 1600+, and generally firstpicked if not. I'd agree Shaco not exactly being strong but rather annoying, but in fact I simply ban Shaco because you cannot trust your team NOT to feed him to insanity. Concerning Shen, the kid's just stupid. Haven't seen him lose lane against anything but WW. Also, really good if your top laner doesn't exploit him TPing into every.single.gank
We are same elo :D
No I completely agree, the thing is any elo under 2k doesn't know how to play against them, and any elo above 2k doesn't care enough to play well against them, so they're just always banned :3
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