EPTAlthough, I do think a late game trist should shit on tryn and yi, kiting too strong. They both have gap closers, but she has two gap creators.
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Dgiese
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Although, I do think a late game trist should shit on tryn and yi, kiting too strong. They both have gap closers, but she has two gap creators. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
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On February 07 2012 09:40 Dgiese wrote: Sounds like both Yi and Tryn did stupid stuff... Although, I do think a late game trist should shit on tryn and yi, kiting too strong. They both have gap closers, but she has two gap creators. Kiting Yi is unnecessary. Simple right clicking after pressing Q works. With a Bloodthirster PD IE and speed steroid you get so much life steal and crit so hard that even a 6-Feast stack fully built Cho'Gath melts really fast (I've done it before). Kiting Tryn is necessary when his ult is up, but when it's down it's just another Q + right click and say good night. | ||
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LaM
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Shikyo
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On February 07 2012 10:01 Kyo Yuy wrote: Kiting Yi is unnecessary. Simple right clicking after pressing Q works. With a Bloodthirster PD IE and speed steroid you get so much life steal and crit so hard that even a 6-Feast stack fully built Cho'Gath melts really fast (I've done it before). Kiting Tryn is necessary when his ult is up, but when it's down it's just another Q + right click and say good night. Let's say it's a Yi with warmog atmas PD PD Triforce BT... just hitting those 400 crits isn't going to be enough when Yi has almost twice your health and crits like 600-700s and you can't even run Vs tryndamere you again can't just right click with Q and hope you outdmg him, you somehow need to survive for 5 seconds when he kills you in 3 hits which takes less than 2 seconds in total | ||
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starfries
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Also in 1v1 Frozen Mallet Trist owns most people | ||
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FR4CT4L
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http://clgaming.net/board/board25-announcements/board26-community-news/5489-clg-expands-to-dota-2-welcome-our-new-team/ Can any of our more dota savvy members comment on how good this swedish team they picked up is? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 07 2012 10:01 Kyo Yuy wrote: Kiting Tryn is necessary when his ult is up, but when it's down it's just another Q + right click and say good night. You're underestimating how much -80 AD evens out the rate at which you do damage. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 07 2012 10:09 starfries wrote: Oddbro 1280 Elo... I feel better about my bad luck during placement matches. Also in 1v1 Frozen Mallet Trist owns most people Yeah frozen mallet does pwn trynd at least but Yi is immune and Jax beats that too | ||
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Shikyo
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On February 07 2012 10:11 FR4CT4L wrote: Looks like clg is expanding again http://clgaming.net/board/board25-announcements/board26-community-news/5489-clg-expands-to-dota-2-welcome-our-new-team/ Can any of our more dota savvy members comment on how good this swedish team they picked up is? I'd describe that team as really fucking good | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On February 07 2012 10:13 Shikyo wrote: Yeah frozen mallet does pwn trynd at least but Yi is immune and Jax beats that too I think BV Trist beats Yi. Jax is OP. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On February 07 2012 10:07 Shikyo wrote: Let's say it's a Yi with warmog atmas PD PD Triforce BT... just hitting those 400 crits isn't going to be enough when Yi has almost twice your health and crits like 600-700s and you can't even run Vs tryndamere you again can't just right click with Q and hope you outdmg him, you somehow need to survive for 5 seconds when he kills you in 3 hits which takes less than 2 seconds in total You'll have to explain to me in clear numbers how a Master Yi building tanky can out crit and out damage a Tristana building pure damage and crit. If your theorycrafting is true then Tristana would be pretty freaking bad because that would mean that as an AD carry she does less damage in a team fight than a bruiser. Which is pretty bad. | ||
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Two_DoWn
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Shikyo
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On February 07 2012 10:21 Kyo Yuy wrote: You'll have to explain to me in clear numbers how a Master Yi building tanky can out crit and out damage a Tristana building pure damage and crit. Without runes and masteries as I was lazy: Let's take Warmog atmas PD PD Triforce BT 2.5 Aspd and double attack every 7 attacks(In 1v1 I guess he definitely would save the passive proc for this right? Just like you'll assume everyone's ulti is up). Damage is 381 without runes and masteries with 100% critrate. The first alpha strike -> double strike with trinity force proc deals a total of 300 magic damage and 1690 physical damage. 3500 hp 128 armor. With LW you'll have about 76 armor left or whatever. 25% lifesteal Trist needs some beast items Also the thing about ranged AD carries is that although they're weaker in 1v1 they have the ability to shoot from a distance and not get attacked back whereas with melee carries you usually get focused way harder | ||
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Cixah
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On February 07 2012 10:11 FR4CT4L wrote: Looks like clg is expanding again http://clgaming.net/board/board25-announcements/board26-community-news/5489-clg-expands-to-dota-2-welcome-our-new-team/ Can any of our more dota savvy members comment on how good this swedish team they picked up is? REALLY sick lineup. CLG making a massive move here. | ||
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