[Patch 1.0.0.133: Ziggs] General Discussion - Page 87
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
Despite getting such a lead, he had horrible positioning and missed sooooo many q's and didn't know how to place his minefields. Then he got caught by ashe arrow/ ahri twice when his team was scattered to lose baron and the game. | ||
Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 07 2012 08:12 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Would it be possible for a bruiser built AD carry champion to beat an equally farmed normally built AD carry? Post last whisper I'd say no. | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On February 07 2012 08:10 Kaniol wrote: WTF people hating on lantern so much, you guys are crazy. It isn't a bad item, same for buying 2-3 dorans - it is NOT bad. Buying 3 blades, lantern and then a PD (aka spending ~7k gold before buying a BF sword) is bad tho I think any competent ad carry goes for 2-3 dorans almost always. What we are discussing is 2-3 dorans + wriggles into PD. | ||
Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On February 07 2012 08:15 tobi9999 wrote: Right, TSM losing had nothing to do with Reginald's first time Ziggs....... Despite getting such a lead, he had horrible positioning and missed sooooo many q's and didn't know how to place his minefields. Then he got caught by ashe arrow/ ahri twice when his team was scattered to lose baron and the game. Hey man, TSM lost a game. It MUST be RainMan's fault. 100%. | ||
-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On February 07 2012 08:29 Terranasaur wrote: Saint running triple gp5 Alistar right now on stream. Making all the moneys. After I had read theorycrafters on TL, I didn't buy any gp5 anymore, excepted Philo for regen. | ||
seRapH
United States9756 Posts
On February 07 2012 08:40 -Zoda- wrote: After I had read theorycrafters on TL, I didn't buy any gp5 anymore, excepted Philo for regen. You obviously haven't experienced what it's like to sit in base making 2 gold per second. | ||
Craton
United States17250 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Buying tankiness increases your 1v1 capabilites so I'd be tempted to say yes. But the big problem will be teamfights : having a ranged auto attacker doing very high damage is highly beneficial for the team, and creates the whole teamfight dynamic. | ||
Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 07 2012 09:06 mr_tolkien wrote: Buying tankiness increases your 1v1 capabilites so I'd be tempted to say yes. But the big problem will be teamfights : having a ranged auto attacker doing very high damage is highly beneficial for the team, and creates the whole teamfight dynamic. I cant say I have actually tested every combination possible, but a 6 item trist pretty much shits on everything and everyone not named nasus. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 07 2012 09:09 Two_DoWn wrote: I cant say I have actually tested every combination possible, but a 6 item trist pretty much shits on everything and everyone not named nasus. 6item twitch shits all over trist. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 07 2012 09:09 Two_DoWn wrote: I cant say I have actually tested every combination possible, but a 6 item trist pretty much shits on everything and everyone not named nasus. In 1v1 if the tanky dps builds specifically for 1v1? At least JAX, Yi, Tryndamere, Sion, Rammus, Gangplank, Xin Zhao, Shyvana are going to beat Tristana at 6 items imo, probably Irelia and Poppy too. | ||
sinii
England989 Posts
Top elo gets first pick right? So why do I keep getting placed with lower elo players then myself? I want to play with people equal or better then me ffs | ||
wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Usually top pick = best winrate by far for me | ||
Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On February 07 2012 09:23 Shikyo wrote: In 1v1 if the tanky dps builds specifically for 1v1? At least JAX, Yi, Tryndamere, Sion, Rammus, Gangplank, Xin Zhao, Shyvana are going to beat Tristana at 6 items imo, probably Irelia and Poppy too. I've beaten fully built Tryndameres and Master Yis with a fully built Tristana before. Can't say anything about the rest because I haven't done it. But I've gone 1v1 with Tryndamere and Yi and came out on top. Tryndamere ulted so I W'ed back, he chickened me so I ulted him then just kept auto attacking and he died before he could kill me. Having a fully stacked Bloodthirster helps. As for Yi, he just kinda died because late game Master Yi is weak against being right clicked. | ||
Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On February 07 2012 09:23 Shikyo wrote: In 1v1 if the tanky dps builds specifically for 1v1? At least JAX, Yi, Tryndamere, Sion, Rammus, Gangplank, Xin Zhao, Shyvana are going to beat Tristana at 6 items imo, probably Irelia and Poppy too. I don't think this is the argument. I think the question is, if you take a Ranged AD with regular ranged AD build, let's call it Zerkers, IE, PD, BT, LW, GA. Against a Ranged AD with a bruiser build, Mercs, Warmogs, Atmas, Trinity, Wits, FoN (or something similar) who would win. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 07 2012 09:35 Terranasaur wrote: I don't think this is the argument. I think the question is, if you take a Ranged AD with regular ranged AD build, let's call it Zerkers, IE, PD, BT, LW, GA. Against a Ranged AD with a bruiser build, Mercs, Warmogs, Atmas, Trinity, Wits, FoN (or something similar) who would win. If you remove wits and FoN that are bad and replace with Thornmail and Randuins Omen funny things happen even with LW. | ||
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