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napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 11:49:16
February 06 2012 11:49 GMT
#1561
On February 06 2012 20:34 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 20:27 Senx wrote:
On February 06 2012 20:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
Go4LoL.EU Finals is TSM vs AL. Finals haven't been played yet because AL went to sleep before TSM beat SK in semis.


oO Do you know who eliminated CLG.eu?

If I could find the bracket I wouldnt ask such questions, just really interested to see who overcame arguably the top team right now.

CLG eu troll picked because they were tired and had already played the whole day.
Soraka top, Evelynn mid, Mundo jungle, Teemo/??? bot.


edit: karma?
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 06 2012 12:12 GMT
#1562
On February 06 2012 20:49 napo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 20:34 mr_tolkien wrote:
On February 06 2012 20:27 Senx wrote:
On February 06 2012 20:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
Go4LoL.EU Finals is TSM vs AL. Finals haven't been played yet because AL went to sleep before TSM beat SK in semis.


oO Do you know who eliminated CLG.eu?

If I could find the bracket I wouldnt ask such questions, just really interested to see who overcame arguably the top team right now.

CLG eu troll picked because they were tired and had already played the whole day.
Soraka top, Evelynn mid, Mundo jungle, Teemo/??? bot.


edit: karma?

Yep, Karma bott. Their lanes didn't even make sense XD Eve would have been better in the jungle, mundo top, and Soraka mid.
The legend of Darien lives on
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 06 2012 12:14 GMT
#1563
I think its pretty disrespectfull to their opponents. If I would be facing CLG.eu first round of Go4LoL I would be so happy to play them. We would get stomped , but it would be awesome to just play with people I watch on stream alot.

If they would be doing that crap to me in a game like that, I would be very pissedoff and dissapointed.
KCCO!
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
February 06 2012 12:18 GMT
#1564
As someone already said, they were tired cause of playing all day long. And they didn't want to forfeit, so...
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 06 2012 12:42 GMT
#1565
If you dont want to play or cant play the full thing, dont sign up.
KCCO!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 06 2012 12:51 GMT
#1566
On February 06 2012 21:14 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I think its pretty disrespectfull to their opponents. If I would be facing CLG.eu first round of Go4LoL I would be so happy to play them. We would get stomped , but it would be awesome to just play with people I watch on stream alot.

If they would be doing that crap to me in a game like that, I would be very pissedoff and dissapointed.

Don't worry, CLG EU would beat you with Evelynn bro :p

You don't have to tryhard every single online tournament match, especially a weekly cup like that. They just did it for fun and didn't care about the results.
The legend of Darien lives on
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 06 2012 13:02 GMT
#1567
It's funny how in the SC community, stuff like the Naniwa Blizzard Cup controversy causes a huge uproar when a player throws away a tournament game like they don't care, and in the LoL community, people don't care at all.

I'm with ihasaKAROT on this one--treating even minor events like this is indicative of the enormous lack of professionalism in the competitive LoL community.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 06 2012 13:04 GMT
#1568
Like I said, they would still beat me, but Id rather be stomped by their 'normal' play instead of just trolling. And not just the trolling, but also the swearing, insulting other opponents on stream and acting like a total b*tch. Theres a few thousand people watching on stream, atleast have some respect for your opponents, how bad they may play.

Just my opinion, thought they were more mature.
KCCO!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
February 06 2012 13:09 GMT
#1569
does anyone have any tips for laning against olaf, from counter picks to play style to anything. ive yet to see someone do well against him in a real game. when im against him its like he builds wriggles in to metagolem and still deals tons of damage. like more than lee sin or gangplank. if i see him picked on the other team at champ select should i take a ranged character or are there bruisers who can beat him in lane?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 06 2012 13:10 GMT
#1570
On February 06 2012 22:02 TheYango wrote:
Blizzard Cup

You're comparing a huge event with a worldwide audience AND live stage to a weekly online tournament having random casters not even trying to make the games interesting.

I fail to see your logic.
The legend of Darien lives on
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 06 2012 13:14 GMT
#1571
It shouldnt matter if there is an audience of 10 people, 5000 or 1 million. There should be some sportsmanship and respect for the opposing team/players. CLG.eu failed hard on that front yesterday. Dont know how you feel about it, but getting insulted in front of about 10k viewers total is a big deal to me.
KCCO!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 06 2012 13:20 GMT
#1572
On February 06 2012 22:14 ihasaKAROT wrote:
It shouldnt matter if there is an audience of 10 people, 5000 or 1 million. There should be some sportsmanship and respect for the opposing team/players. CLG.eu failed hard on that front yesterday. Dont know how you feel about it, but getting insulted in front of about 10k viewers total is a big deal to me.

To you it's getting insulted to completely destroy them ? oO We must just not have the same values regarding that then. If they decide to go for a loosy comp and you manage to punish them for this, how did you get insulted ?

And if you lost to it, what's the matter ? It shows they knew how to play their comp better than you know how to counter it. They beat you fare and square.
The legend of Darien lives on
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 06 2012 13:23 GMT
#1573
The insults were the games before the trollpick where they lost in the end. Its 2 different things im talking about here. Maybe that clears it up.

Also I dont care if they beat me using that compo, if they beat me they beat me. But there was no respect from any of them to the opponents.
KCCO!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 13:32:41
February 06 2012 13:31 GMT
#1574
On February 06 2012 22:20 mr_tolkien wrote:
To you it's getting insulted to completely destroy them ? oO We must just not have the same values regarding that then. If they decide to go for a loosy comp and you manage to punish them for this, how did you get insulted ?

Because there's the implication that you're not on their level (when its not their place to judge)? Because they robbed you, and any viewers of the chance for a good game?

On February 06 2012 22:20 mr_tolkien wrote:
And if you lost to it, what's the matter ? It shows they knew how to play their comp better than you know how to counter it. They beat you fare and square.

Except in this case, that wasn't the case because CLG.eu lost.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 06 2012 13:33 GMT
#1575
On February 06 2012 21:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:
If you dont want to play or cant play the full thing, dont sign up.


just don't tell them how to play.
And all is illuminated.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 13:37:43
February 06 2012 13:37 GMT
#1576
On February 06 2012 22:33 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 21:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:
If you dont want to play or cant play the full thing, dont sign up.


just don't tell them how to play.


Nice to see you read between the lines and found something that I wasnt saying...
KCCO!
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 13:44:36
February 06 2012 13:41 GMT
#1577
On February 06 2012 22:02 TheYango wrote:
It's funny how in the SC community, stuff like the Naniwa Blizzard Cup controversy causes a huge uproar when a player throws away a tournament game like they don't care, and in the LoL community, people don't care at all.

I'm with ihasaKAROT on this one--treating even minor events like this is indicative of the enormous lack of professionalism in the competitive LoL community.


Comparing Go4LoL with the Blizzard Cup Invitational doesn't really fit. Nobody would care in sc2 when some pro would throw a game in the weekly Go4SC tournament either. When a team would troll pick in let's say, the OGN Invitational that would totally different.

Edit: You can of course still discuss if that is wrong or not. I'm not really sure about it yet, BUT comparing those two is just not fair.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 13:48:00
February 06 2012 13:43 GMT
#1578
On February 06 2012 22:33 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 21:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:
If you dont want to play or cant play the full thing, dont sign up.


just don't tell them how to play.

I think there are certain implicit obligations that a player has when entering a tournament to the TOs, to the fans, and to his opponents, regardless of the size or notoriety of the tournament.

Obviously there are edge-cases between "not playing well" and "throwing the game", but picking a team-comp like this (just like Naniwa probe-rushing right at the start in the Blizzard Cup controversy) isn't one of them.

If you don't want to play, forfeit properly. Don't disrespect your opponent by trolling.

On February 06 2012 22:41 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 22:02 TheYango wrote:
It's funny how in the SC community, stuff like the Naniwa Blizzard Cup controversy causes a huge uproar when a player throws away a tournament game like they don't care, and in the LoL community, people don't care at all.

I'm with ihasaKAROT on this one--treating even minor events like this is indicative of the enormous lack of professionalism in the competitive LoL community.


Comparing Go4LoL with the Blizzard Cup Invitational doesn't really fit. Nobody would care in sc2 when some pro would throw a game in the weekly Go4SC tournament either. When a team would troll pick in let's say, the OGN Invitational that would totally different.

Edit: You can of course still discuss if that is wrong or not. I'm not really sure about it yet, BUT comparing those two is just not fair.

Bear in mind that Naniwa was not given the OPTION of forfeiting, so he trolled his match. Go4LoL has the OPTION of forfeiting, which means it's all the more disrespectful that CLG.eu didn't take that option. So while you may not think the event was as important, I think because of the rules involved, the actual grievance was more serious.

Also, I think people would care if the event was given enough visibility (people criticize pros for what they do on STREAM ffs). If people didn't say anything about a pro trolling a Go4SC2 match, it would have more to do with the fact that people don't follow them.
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 06 2012 14:02 GMT
#1579
Seriously people are actually hard enough to give CLG.eu some shit just because they did one fun game and lost?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 06 2012 14:05 GMT
#1580
On February 06 2012 23:02 WhiteDog wrote:
Seriously people are actually hard enough to give CLG.eu some shit just because they did one fun game and lost?

They had fun. They should clearly be blamed and maybe banned for life from the LoL scene. LoL is srs bznss.
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