EPTbut as soon as you start getting matched up against curse and shit, and you actually try hard and still lose, it's the worst thing ever. nothing's more demoralizing
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
but as soon as you start getting matched up against curse and shit, and you actually try hard and still lose, it's the worst thing ever. nothing's more demoralizing | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Did you ace or nearly ace (4 dead) the enemy team? If yes -> Is there a lane pushed to an inhibitor tower? -> If yes, take the inhibitor. If no -> Can you take the inhibitor without a minion wave before the other team respawns? -> If yes, take the inhibitor. If no, take baron. It's obviously all situational. If your team is super low after a big team fight it might be best to do neither especially if no wave is pushed up. Having everyone at low HP commit to taking an inhib can give the other team a free baron, but at the same time playing like a pussy will usually make your team lose. At some point you have to take risks and if I can choose between an inhib and a baron I will take an inhib every single time. | ||
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Ryrk
United States82 Posts
Then next game i got drafted to go AP Mid and I'm really bad at that.  We got rolled again and then everyone went to bed. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:23 gtrsrs wrote: 5s is the best thing ever as long as you're playing teams worse than yourself. it's like solo queue but where you have good communication and teamwork and no one is a fucking chode afk bitch. but as soon as you start getting matched up against curse and shit, and you actually try hard and still lose, it's the worst thing ever. nothing's more demoralizing True story. Have been playing with a couple of friends on LoL, we all met there and even had a meeting 'in real life'. Was all fun n stuff cus we were winning everything. But then we got on the level where we lost more then we won and its really hit the group. We still together with our 6 pack tho  But its really different when you lose if you play with 5s | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:23 gtrsrs wrote: 5s is the best thing ever as long as you're playing teams worse than yourself. it's like solo queue but where you have good communication and teamwork and no one is a fucking chode afk bitch. but as soon as you start getting matched up against curse and shit, and you actually try hard and still lose, it's the worst thing ever. nothing's more demoralizing Wrong imo. Playing against strong teams and losing shows who is really up to the task of improving and who is not. There are people who ragequit, blame and are pissed for the next few hours and there are people who want to watch the replay together, go over mistakes and requeue. There is nothing demoralizing in losing to a superior opponent. In fact, I love the feeling of losing to someone who played better than me. No matter which game. I just go batshit insane when I'm losing due to my own mistakes & when I lose to someone I perceive as inferior because I played way below my A-game. | ||
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Xevious
United States2086 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:23 gtrsrs wrote: 5s is the best thing ever as long as you're playing teams worse than yourself. it's like solo queue but where you have good communication and teamwork and no one is a fucking chode afk bitch. but as soon as you start getting matched up against curse and shit, and you actually try hard and still lose, it's the worst thing ever. nothing's more demoralizing my team got paired against v8 on the 5s ladder, and even though we got shitsmashed if was still really cool playing against pro players  | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:30 r.Evo wrote: Wrong imo. Playing against strong teams and losing shows who is really up to the task of improving and who is not. There are people who ragequit, blame and are pissed for the next few hours and there are people who want to watch the replay together, go over mistakes and requeue. There is nothing demoralizing in losing to a superior opponent. In fact, I love the feeling of losing to someone who played better than me. No matter which game. I just go batshit insane when I'm losing due to my own mistakes & when I lose to someone I perceive as inferior because I played way below my A-game. never said curse was a superior opponent :ookalooka: no, i realize the importance of getting better, but i just meant there's a point in 5s where you go from completely shit opponents to totally competent ones, without warning. one game we'll be trying new stuff, duo mid lanes, unconventional carries, etc etc etc, next game we run into megazero&co running super-tryhard comps. you can definitely learn from those games, but it's tough when you are trying to convince your teammates that jungle ziggs is totally legit and you run into a good team without any notice | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Demoralized simply because you lost to Curse? Poor mindset. Demoralized because you lost a game because of your own mistake or team misplay? Good, it's ok. Take it as a lesson to heart. You should only get mad if you keep making the same mistake over and over again. Cause you're just dumb then. :DEdit: ok, if it's a discrepancy between good and bad opponents, use Arranged Ranked to tryhard comp, practice teamwork/team objectives. Use Draft Normal for practicing new champions. Arranged 5, you will sometimes run into pro teams like Curse, Goose, CLG Blind Pick Normals, you will sometimes run into fun police. afaik, no really tryhard players/teams play Draft Normal. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
but yeah that's a good idea to practice "new stuff" in draft normals. hard to convince treebeard to do it though, because apparently his normal elo is high enough that our queue times will be longer in draft normals than ranked XD edit:: speaking of good players and SG we're playing against rambo, exlynn, delerium, hirishin and maybe some other people in a tourney game next week anyone know if they run any gimmicky/cheese comps that we should look out for OR anyone know any good ban snipes? | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
SG: trololol, Ranked 5s so ezpz Riot: have some Goose :D But yeah, fighting A tier teams with a joke team comp will be demoralizing in the sense that it's 20 minutes of no fun because you're starting out with a disadvantaged comp. hoho... high normal elo. Come blind pick bro. :3 Edit: just spy on rambo and see what he plays lately. Kara will be support obv. rambo typically plays the impactful roles during early/mid game. Jungle or solo. n/m, Exlynn and Hiri are gud gud players. They'll carry rambotroll and Kara. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:19 gtrsrs wrote: yaya i agree completely with both of you. every time SG loses a ranked 5s or scrim we sit down for like 15 minutes to discuss every error we made and why we made them. but it's just super deflating to win like three 20 minute games in a row and you're laughing and joking on vent and you pick twitch + annie bot lane and you're like LOL THESE NOOBS SO TRYHARD LOOK THEY PICK CAIT ALIST-OH MY GOD IT'S GOOSE. FK HOW WE WIN DIS but yeah that's a good idea to practice "new stuff" in draft normals. hard to convince treebeard to do it though, because apparently his normal elo is high enough that our queue times will be longer in draft normals than ranked XD edit:: speaking of good players and SG we're playing against rambo, exlynn, delerium, hirishin and maybe some other people in a tourney game next week anyone know if they run any gimmicky/cheese comps that we should look out for OR anyone know any good ban snipes? thought draft normal q time higher than rank q time for everyone? | ||
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Ryrk
United States82 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:19 gtrsrs wrote: edit:: speaking of good players and SG we're playing against rambo, exlynn, delerium, hirishin and maybe some other people in a tourney game next week anyone know if they run any gimmicky/cheese comps that we should look out for OR anyone know any good ban snipes? With a proper elo donation I'll go undercover for you and make an off-hand comment asking what secret strats they're going to do. Cause all they do with me is troll normals. I didn't even know rambo made a team LOL. And for random trivia, rambo looks EXACTLY like Marn (fighting games person). It's quite uncanny. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:28 De4ngus wrote: thought draft normal q time higher than rank q time for everyone? tried draft normal queue once Tried just the queue that is, hadn't found a match in 25min after I had finished eating so I went back to blind pick, finding a match in half a minute | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
IMO they need to increase the penalty for dodging in draft normals. Like, you can't queue for one hour or something. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:26 NeoIllusions wrote: Go4LoL.EU Finals is TSM vs AL. Finals haven't been played yet because AL went to sleep before TSM beat SK in semis. oO Do you know who eliminated CLG.eu? If I could find the bracket I wouldnt ask such questions, just really interested to see who overcame arguably the top team right now. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
http://www.esl.eu/eu/lol/west/go4lol/cup75/rankings/ | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
http://www.esl.eu/eu/lol/ - Pick server - Mouse over "Team" and click on the appropriate tournament you're interested in looking up - Click on "Tournament Tree" You get to see the brackets for that tournament. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:27 Senx wrote: oO Do you know who eliminated CLG.eu? If I could find the bracket I wouldnt ask such questions, just really interested to see who overcame arguably the top team right now. CLG eu troll picked because they were tired and had already played the whole day. | ||
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