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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 06 2012 03:05 GMT
#1461
On February 06 2012 10:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
Buff control has been getting more and more important as LoL has developed. I remember when I first started playing pro teams in tourneys wouldn't control or contest buffs nearly as much as they do now. M5 wasn't the first team to do it; pro teams have been stepping up their buff control for quite a while now. What M5 did was extremely aggressive jungle control, stealing not just buffs, but also small camps, with atypical champions.


I think I remember somebody saying TSM used to play like that a while back. Not as drastic, but still done.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2012 03:06 GMT
#1462
Hey neo.

neo.

NEOOOOOOOOOOOO


Guess who jiji is playing.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 06 2012 03:14 GMT
#1463
On February 06 2012 12:06 Two_DoWn wrote:
Hey neo.

neo.

NEOOOOOOOOOOOO


Guess who jiji is playing.


I spy a little girl.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2012 03:15 GMT
#1464
And only people who watch archer actually get the first part of my post.

Or my quote.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
February 06 2012 03:17 GMT
#1465
On February 06 2012 12:01 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 09:42 Shikyo wrote:
On February 06 2012 09:38 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On February 06 2012 09:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 06 2012 08:51 starfries wrote:
Oddone discovering the joys of ranked placement matches right now


Says this proves there is no elo hell, admits he can't carry this team a minute later.
Real baylife logic.

He says stuff like this even at high ELO.

Also a few nights ago he ended up in a game with Saint and Doublelift where he still lost (some people say Saint was also trolling).

If there is an ELO Hell where people troll a lot and games are unwinnable because of bad team comps and bad play, then it exists in the ELO range of 0 to 3000.

IMO elo hell would be below 1400. Above that people generally pick proper team comps and generally don't megafeed the lanes. At lower elos it's not rare that you have no support or no jungler or have some fullretard feeders. Sure there's unwinnable games after 1400 as well but even so it's more of the outplaying stuff and not just full idioticness. Also almost no leavers after that point.

Btw this chainsaw baron analogy = why TOO has better quotes than saint imo!


1400+ don't megafeed? I'm not too sure about that one chief. If you'd like I can document famous streamers scores when in solo lanes. Seen Regi start as bad as 0-7 on Cass at 18 minutes.

It's more often that at least one lane heavily feeds in a game than none do in my games. A good portion of games are lost before lane phase ends.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 06 2012 03:24 GMT
#1466
Yeah idk why I'm starting to take Shikyo seriously.
Hey! How you doin'?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2012 03:26 GMT
#1467
On February 06 2012 12:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Yeah idk why I'm starting to take Shikyo seriously.

You can take him seriously about some stuff, but there IS a reason he has the QQ thread to his name.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 06 2012 03:35 GMT
#1468
Randomly, is morde's ghost off his ult suppose to not have minion collision?
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 03:41:09
February 06 2012 03:40 GMT
#1469
On February 06 2012 11:08 0123456789 wrote:
Every1 knows that you control wraiths, you control game. Which is why morde is always picked/banned in Brasil.

FYI, if you didn't know I'm just kidding. Since the dawn of time, whoever got baron won game. I think this is still prevelant today(get baron, win game), just that baron isn't as strong as it once was, but still really strong.


Right now it feels like 1 baron nullifies any lead the enemy team had, and a second one wins the game. If you were already ahed, a baron is instawin.

Pretty dumb considering how close barons often end up being about who's jungler is the "best" at smiting, when truly a good smite is about as "skillful" as a cross-map ashe arrow.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
February 06 2012 03:41 GMT
#1470
On February 06 2012 12:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Yeah idk why I'm starting to take Shikyo seriously.

He has the most... unique theorycrafting of anyone on TeamLiquid. Be it Brood War, SC2, LoL, DOTA, or life.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 06 2012 03:41 GMT
#1471
On February 06 2012 12:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
And only people who watch archer actually get the first part of my post.

Or my quote.


HE REMEMBERS ME
Remember Violet.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2012 03:43 GMT
#1472
I want an ocelot.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 06 2012 03:48 GMT
#1473
On February 06 2012 12:41 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 12:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Yeah idk why I'm starting to take Shikyo seriously.

He has the most... unique theorycrafting of anyone on TeamLiquid. Be it Brood War, SC2, LoL, DOTA, or life.

My life theorycraft is amazing by the way. I'm an agnostic who believes in rebirth.

Also I think 4x gp5 poppy is imba as support
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 06 2012 03:50 GMT
#1474
I'm intensely curious and yet intensely not curious at the same time...
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 06 2012 04:29 GMT
#1475
Well the amazing idea behind that is the fact that her passive is imba in lane -> won't die easily, and doesn't need a ton of farm early to be useful with the kills as Q still deals plenty of dmg, and lategame with 4 gp5 items you have so much income that you will be able to carry hard

Only downside is that the lane's 1v2 for 20min
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2012 04:31 GMT
#1476
On February 06 2012 13:29 Shikyo wrote:
Well the amazing idea behind that is the fact that her passive is imba in lane -> won't die easily, and doesn't need a ton of farm early to be useful with the kills as Q still deals plenty of dmg, and lategame with 4 gp5 items you have so much income that you will be able to carry hard

Only downside is that the lane's 1v2 for 20min

So its no different than playing with anyone not named sona/soraka.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 06 2012 04:37 GMT
#1477
http://www.twitch.tv/darksupremacyx

duo queue with my buddy here in Edmonton, come watch me feed :D

stream not guaranteed to be from my POV
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
February 06 2012 04:42 GMT
#1478
LoL I actually did say to my friend that the first Ziggs trolling would be him AD. I can actually see it working quite well since his kit is almost pure utility besides his Q and R. Other than that, I could see a nashors/malady/lichbane build wokring on him, or just straight up AD and making minefeild.

Another way to troll could be jungle, not sure if that's trolling, but it would be funny as hell to see him gank with his ulti up.

Cant wait for his free week
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
February 06 2012 04:43 GMT
#1479
Although nobody is really watching this (especially since EU is more interesting), the US go4lol finals are now:

http://www.twitch.tv/national_esl1

Goose vs UpTG (the team with Captain America + Korea)
the farm ends here
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2012 05:04 GMT
#1480
SV:

"I was watching TOO play in the go4lol today and Shyvana is the perfect hero for him. He gets to run to lanes to drop wards faster."
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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