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jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
February 13 2012 07:41 GMT
#3261
chaox and a bunch of other pros just played an aram (well not all random but w/e) in ranked. it was golden.
DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
February 13 2012 07:42 GMT
#3262
On February 13 2012 16:36 Treadmill wrote:
One thing I know is Teemo shrooms do the base damage of the level you had in your ult when you placed them, not when they go off. BUT, I believe, they do bonus damage based on the AP you have when they go off, rather than when you placed them. Looked this up when I was having fun with AP Teemo. If you haven't tried it you need to, by the way.


teemo shrooms level up now as you level up your ulti

(http://www.lol-patch.com/teemo.html)
"I am an iconic role model for everyone aspiring to be better at League of Legends." - Roffles
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
February 13 2012 07:47 GMT
#3263
It isn't trolling if everyone agrees to it.

Also high elo is such a small community its kind of like an in-house anyways. Team captains try to ban out the opposing team's main/preferred champions or you see people try out crazy stuff all the time.

Doing ARAM it in soloqueue is good for the streaming community, but may not be for the general population.

Calling it now prepared to be "ARAM'D"
FADC
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 13 2012 07:48 GMT
#3264
On February 13 2012 16:42 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 16:36 Treadmill wrote:
One thing I know is Teemo shrooms do the base damage of the level you had in your ult when you placed them, not when they go off. BUT, I believe, they do bonus damage based on the AP you have when they go off, rather than when you placed them. Looked this up when I was having fun with AP Teemo. If you haven't tried it you need to, by the way.


teemo shrooms level up now as you level up your ulti

(http://www.lol-patch.com/teemo.html)

Whoa hey thanks. Now I need to start playing AP teemo again. 1000 damage shrooms are just too funny.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
February 13 2012 07:49 GMT
#3265
On February 13 2012 16:41 jadoth wrote:
chaox and a bunch of other pros just played an aram (well not all random but w/e) in ranked. it was golden.



Saw it on scarras stream, it was fun :D
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 13 2012 07:54 GMT
#3266
Just played my first game as Orianna...sooo much fun. It's hard to position her ult correctly to roll their team though unless you have good initiation.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
February 13 2012 07:55 GMT
#3267
Apparently they're doing another ARAM. No Scarra or Chaox though.
http://www.own3d.tv/live/49897/CLG_Chauster
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 13 2012 08:29 GMT
#3268
On February 13 2012 16:32 arnath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 16:07 gtrsrs wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:00 Xevious wrote:
On February 13 2012 15:59 arnath wrote:
If a champion puts a damage over time effect on me and then I exhaust them, does the damage of the previously applied DOT effect get reduced?

no


... yes it does
everything in LoL is updated in near-realtime. if you exhaust someone as their projectile is in the air, their damage will be reduced by the appropriate amount. the same holds true for anything that is not true damage

i'm pretty sure the same applies for skills that you level up mid-animation or mid-duration. i.e. you can be using shyvana's W and level it up during it's application, and it will increase in damage from then on (i'm not 100% sure on this, testing it now)

edit: tested, proved incorrect. i was wrong. i tested both popping a red-pot mid-W on shyvana, AND leveling a skill mid-use on shyvana. both should have increased my dps (the redpot by about 2 per W tick, the level up by about 10 per W tick) and neither did. now i'm not so sure about the exhaust on the DoT either. gonna test that now

edit2: retested the exhaust mid-DoT and i was correct. the damage will be reduced as quickly as the next tick AFTER the DoT

Does this apply to stuff like Rumble ult too?

Also, in an unrelated note, I just want to say that resource-less champions are stupid. There's no interesting decisions to make with ability usage (since there's almost no reason to ever NOT cast your skills) and they're not fun to play against in lane because you're just constantly being skill spammed. Resource-less champions are honestly the single biggest reason I hate laning in this game and just jungle all the time.


yes, it does

and yes, as i was saying about a week ago, whoever it was that designed renekton, rumble, and trynd remake are total *trollface.jpg*
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
February 13 2012 08:35 GMT
#3269
I don't know if it's just me, but do you guys think Ziggs' circle of like 15 bombs that slow you down stays there too long?
LOUD NOISES!!!
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 08:48:56
February 13 2012 08:38 GMT
#3270
On February 13 2012 16:48 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 16:42 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:36 Treadmill wrote:
One thing I know is Teemo shrooms do the base damage of the level you had in your ult when you placed them, not when they go off. BUT, I believe, they do bonus damage based on the AP you have when they go off, rather than when you placed them. Looked this up when I was having fun with AP Teemo. If you haven't tried it you need to, by the way.


teemo shrooms level up now as you level up your ulti

(http://www.lol-patch.com/teemo.html)

Whoa hey thanks. Now I need to start playing AP teemo again. 1000 damage shrooms are just too funny.


I decided to go AP Teemo a few games ago in a normal and just randomly someone on their team also went AP Teemo...I crushed top and then dueled their teemo with hundreds of shrooms in their jungle for 40 minutes and refused to end the game. Nobody could dislodge me from my mushroom fortress and they didnt dare to approach the sacred red buff after a while. Needless to say I was a finer AP Teemo than theirs...ended the game 26-6 or something, lots of fun. Got about 8 kills just from random shrooms.

On February 13 2012 17:35 Lorken wrote:
I don't know if it's just me, but do you guys think Ziggs' circle of like 15 bombs that slow you down stays there too long?


its 10 seconds...which is pretty ridiculous, skill is on a 16 second CD though at all levels which is very long and unforgiving if you place them wrong. I reallllly am thinking of buying Ziggs, he looks like alot of fun with a high skillcap. But I dont know if i can make myself spend 6300 after buying viktor and xerath ....I still only have 3 runepages.


And I already have so many mids that I play: Kassadin/LeBlanc/Viktor/Xerath/Sion/Ryze/Morgana/Lux/Veigar/TF/Zilean

I already feel like I can counterpick pretty much any mid with just LB/Vik/Xerath, who are my favorites.

Anyone have any Ziggs experience? Is he as fun as he looks?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
February 13 2012 08:49 GMT
#3271
On February 13 2012 15:57 Xevious wrote:
http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/stonewalls-jungle/5564-shut-up-and-stop-kidding-yourself

stonewall speaks words of gold


This guy indeed speaks the truth. So many baddies who think they're the greatest thing to ever grace the game. I can deal with people who are bad and are trying to get better without blaming anyone, but they seem to be really rare.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 13 2012 08:51 GMT
#3272
It's not only that: they have such a huge slow, if he somehow manages to catch them on you you're effectively rooted for 2-3s. Not talking about Q's range/damage/cd combination, nor ult range/damage, nor minefield/charge utility, etc. I think Ziggs just comes with too much packed together.

On February 13 2012 13:37 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:28 unichan wrote:
sup guys the only one i played is leaf green and that pokemon mystery dungeon shit which was tite

what does this have to do with league of legend

There are 649 pokemon, created over 14 years, which is about 46 pokemon/year.
There are 92 champions, created over 2.5 years, which is about 36 champions/year.

The challenge is to catch them all.


Goddamnit.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 13 2012 08:52 GMT
#3273
On February 13 2012 17:38 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 16:48 Treadmill wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:42 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:36 Treadmill wrote:
One thing I know is Teemo shrooms do the base damage of the level you had in your ult when you placed them, not when they go off. BUT, I believe, they do bonus damage based on the AP you have when they go off, rather than when you placed them. Looked this up when I was having fun with AP Teemo. If you haven't tried it you need to, by the way.


teemo shrooms level up now as you level up your ulti

(http://www.lol-patch.com/teemo.html)

Whoa hey thanks. Now I need to start playing AP teemo again. 1000 damage shrooms are just too funny.


I decided to go AP Teemo a few games ago in a normal and just randomly someone on their team also went AP Teemo...I crushed top and then dueled their teemo with hundreds of shrooms in their jungle for 40 minutes and refused to end the game. Nobody could dislodge me from my mushroom fortress and they didnt dare to approach the sacred red buff after a while. Needless to say I was a finer AP Teemo than theirs...ended the game 26-6 or something, lots of fun. Got about 8 kills just from random shrooms.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:35 Lorken wrote:
I don't know if it's just me, but do you guys think Ziggs' circle of like 15 bombs that slow you down stays there too long?


its 10 seconds...which is pretty ridiculous, skill is on a 16 second CD though at all levels which is very long and unforgiving if you place them wrong. I reallllly am thinking of buying Ziggs, he looks like alot of fun with a high skillcap. But I dont know if i can make myself spend 6300 after buying viktor and xerath ....I still only have 3 runepages.


And I already have so many mids that I play: Kassadin/LeBlanc/Viktor/Xerath/Sion/Ryze/Morgana/Lux/Veigar/TF/Zilean

I already feel like I can counterpick pretty much any mid with just LB/Vik/Xerath, who are my favorites.

Anyone have any Ziggs experience? Is he as fun as he looks?


And then they buy an oracles and don't walk through bushes and you cry.
Hey! How you doin'?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 13 2012 09:17 GMT
#3274
On February 13 2012 17:52 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:38 sob3k wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:48 Treadmill wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:42 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:36 Treadmill wrote:
One thing I know is Teemo shrooms do the base damage of the level you had in your ult when you placed them, not when they go off. BUT, I believe, they do bonus damage based on the AP you have when they go off, rather than when you placed them. Looked this up when I was having fun with AP Teemo. If you haven't tried it you need to, by the way.


teemo shrooms level up now as you level up your ulti

(http://www.lol-patch.com/teemo.html)

Whoa hey thanks. Now I need to start playing AP teemo again. 1000 damage shrooms are just too funny.


I decided to go AP Teemo a few games ago in a normal and just randomly someone on their team also went AP Teemo...I crushed top and then dueled their teemo with hundreds of shrooms in their jungle for 40 minutes and refused to end the game. Nobody could dislodge me from my mushroom fortress and they didnt dare to approach the sacred red buff after a while. Needless to say I was a finer AP Teemo than theirs...ended the game 26-6 or something, lots of fun. Got about 8 kills just from random shrooms.

On February 13 2012 17:35 Lorken wrote:
I don't know if it's just me, but do you guys think Ziggs' circle of like 15 bombs that slow you down stays there too long?


its 10 seconds...which is pretty ridiculous, skill is on a 16 second CD though at all levels which is very long and unforgiving if you place them wrong. I reallllly am thinking of buying Ziggs, he looks like alot of fun with a high skillcap. But I dont know if i can make myself spend 6300 after buying viktor and xerath ....I still only have 3 runepages.


And I already have so many mids that I play: Kassadin/LeBlanc/Viktor/Xerath/Sion/Ryze/Morgana/Lux/Veigar/TF/Zilean

I already feel like I can counterpick pretty much any mid with just LB/Vik/Xerath, who are my favorites.

Anyone have any Ziggs experience? Is he as fun as he looks?


And then they buy an oracles and don't walk through bushes and you cry.

Did you read «normal game» wrong ?
The legend of Darien lives on
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 13 2012 09:18 GMT
#3275
On February 13 2012 17:52 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:38 sob3k wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:48 Treadmill wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:42 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:36 Treadmill wrote:
One thing I know is Teemo shrooms do the base damage of the level you had in your ult when you placed them, not when they go off. BUT, I believe, they do bonus damage based on the AP you have when they go off, rather than when you placed them. Looked this up when I was having fun with AP Teemo. If you haven't tried it you need to, by the way.


teemo shrooms level up now as you level up your ulti

(http://www.lol-patch.com/teemo.html)

Whoa hey thanks. Now I need to start playing AP teemo again. 1000 damage shrooms are just too funny.


I decided to go AP Teemo a few games ago in a normal and just randomly someone on their team also went AP Teemo...I crushed top and then dueled their teemo with hundreds of shrooms in their jungle for 40 minutes and refused to end the game. Nobody could dislodge me from my mushroom fortress and they didnt dare to approach the sacred red buff after a while. Needless to say I was a finer AP Teemo than theirs...ended the game 26-6 or something, lots of fun. Got about 8 kills just from random shrooms.

On February 13 2012 17:35 Lorken wrote:
I don't know if it's just me, but do you guys think Ziggs' circle of like 15 bombs that slow you down stays there too long?


its 10 seconds...which is pretty ridiculous, skill is on a 16 second CD though at all levels which is very long and unforgiving if you place them wrong. I reallllly am thinking of buying Ziggs, he looks like alot of fun with a high skillcap. But I dont know if i can make myself spend 6300 after buying viktor and xerath ....I still only have 3 runepages.


And I already have so many mids that I play: Kassadin/LeBlanc/Viktor/Xerath/Sion/Ryze/Morgana/Lux/Veigar/TF/Zilean

I already feel like I can counterpick pretty much any mid with just LB/Vik/Xerath, who are my favorites.

Anyone have any Ziggs experience? Is he as fun as he looks?


And then they buy an oracles and don't walk through bushes and you cry.

Shut up. Just... shut up. AP Teemo is a beautiful butterfly. It will fly free and roam the fields and meadows despite your naysaying and your talk of this oracles nonsense. Power of the god damn mushrooms, man. Feel the love.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 13 2012 09:22 GMT
#3276
On February 13 2012 17:38 sob3k wrote:
Anyone have any Ziggs experience? Is he as fun as he looks?


Yes!

Heaps of fun, explosions man! You know that feeling when you play lux and you catch 2 enemys after a big fight with your ult and doublekill? Image that, but then with MORE EXPLOSIONS! Incoomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing boooom

Definately one of the more fun ults to use. Also Ziggs bot works. The range on the Q gets AD carrys, while E and W keep you safe. One full combo blows up pretty much any AD carry bot at lvl6
KCCO!
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 13 2012 09:26 GMT
#3277
On February 13 2012 17:51 Alaric wrote:
It's not only that: they have such a huge slow, if he somehow manages to catch them on you you're effectively rooted for 2-3s. Not talking about Q's range/damage/cd combination, nor ult range/damage, nor minefield/charge utility, etc. I think Ziggs just comes with too much packed together.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:37 seRapH wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:28 unichan wrote:
sup guys the only one i played is leaf green and that pokemon mystery dungeon shit which was tite

what does this have to do with league of legend

There are 649 pokemon, created over 14 years, which is about 46 pokemon/year.
There are 92 champions, created over 2.5 years, which is about 36 champions/year.

The challenge is to catch them all.


Goddamnit.

PSA: the batteries to power your old Gameboy games last for about 15 years. You have about a year left with red/blue until their save files vanish into oblivion.
currently rooting for myself.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 13 2012 09:36 GMT
#3278
Just tried a trollish Ryze build : Tear, Cata, Shroud, TRIFORCE. Worked out quite well in fact since you spam spells and have time to cast autos inbetween (QE auto QW auto QR auto ...). Funny. Triforce just works on anybody >.>
The legend of Darien lives on
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 09:46:23
February 13 2012 09:40 GMT
#3279
On February 13 2012 17:38 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 16:48 Treadmill wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:42 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:36 Treadmill wrote:
One thing I know is Teemo shrooms do the base damage of the level you had in your ult when you placed them, not when they go off. BUT, I believe, they do bonus damage based on the AP you have when they go off, rather than when you placed them. Looked this up when I was having fun with AP Teemo. If you haven't tried it you need to, by the way.


teemo shrooms level up now as you level up your ulti

(http://www.lol-patch.com/teemo.html)

Whoa hey thanks. Now I need to start playing AP teemo again. 1000 damage shrooms are just too funny.


I decided to go AP Teemo a few games ago in a normal and just randomly someone on their team also went AP Teemo...I crushed top and then dueled their teemo with hundreds of shrooms in their jungle for 40 minutes and refused to end the game. Nobody could dislodge me from my mushroom fortress and they didnt dare to approach the sacred red buff after a while. Needless to say I was a finer AP Teemo than theirs...ended the game 26-6 or something, lots of fun. Got about 8 kills just from random shrooms.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:35 Lorken wrote:
I don't know if it's just me, but do you guys think Ziggs' circle of like 15 bombs that slow you down stays there too long?


its 10 seconds...which is pretty ridiculous, skill is on a 16 second CD though at all levels which is very long and unforgiving if you place them wrong. I reallllly am thinking of buying Ziggs, he looks like alot of fun with a high skillcap. But I dont know if i can make myself spend 6300 after buying viktor and xerath ....I still only have 3 runepages.


And I already have so many mids that I play: Kassadin/LeBlanc/Viktor/Xerath/Sion/Ryze/Morgana/Lux/Veigar/TF/Zilean

I already feel like I can counterpick pretty much any mid with just LB/Vik/Xerath, who are my favorites.

Anyone have any Ziggs experience? Is he as fun as he looks?


So much fun. Hes got a lot of small things to improve on your play, has a really strong lane, fun team fights and a fun ult. I've enjoyed him a lot, and would definitely recommend him. (I enjoy him more than lb/vik/xer/ryze even )

Edit: forgot to compare him to Ahri - about as fun as her! (Lots of fun)
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
February 13 2012 09:41 GMT
#3280
On February 13 2012 13:39 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:36 R04R wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:21 ManyCookies wrote:
I just don't know; his Earthquake move just seems super-effective against me.



In teamfights wait for him to taunt someone else before going in. If you have quicksilver sash you don't have to worry about this and just make sure you keep your distance from rammus in fights while he has tremors on. Other than that Rammus doesn't have much influence on you if you stay away from his aoe damage.


I think you missed the joke. Kennen is lightning type, Rammus is ground type.


Why are there pokemon jokes in my general discussion ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
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