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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 13 2012 09:43 GMT
#3281
On February 13 2012 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
Just tried a trollish Ryze build : Tear, Cata, Shroud, TRIFORCE. Worked out quite well in fact since you spam spells and have time to cast autos inbetween (QE auto QW auto QR auto ...). Funny. Triforce just works on anybody >.>


I wish singed ult still gave 65% attack speed, my god triforce singed was so entertaining.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
February 13 2012 10:03 GMT
#3282
On February 13 2012 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
Just tried a trollish Ryze build : Tear, Cata, Shroud, TRIFORCE. Worked out quite well in fact since you spam spells and have time to cast autos inbetween (QE auto QW auto QR auto ...). Funny. Triforce just works on anybody >.>


And then upgrade your tear to manamune :>
Romanes eunt domus
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 13 2012 10:11 GMT
#3283
On February 13 2012 18:26 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:51 Alaric wrote:
It's not only that: they have such a huge slow, if he somehow manages to catch them on you you're effectively rooted for 2-3s. Not talking about Q's range/damage/cd combination, nor ult range/damage, nor minefield/charge utility, etc. I think Ziggs just comes with too much packed together.

On February 13 2012 13:37 seRapH wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:28 unichan wrote:
sup guys the only one i played is leaf green and that pokemon mystery dungeon shit which was tite

what does this have to do with league of legend

There are 649 pokemon, created over 14 years, which is about 46 pokemon/year.
There are 92 champions, created over 2.5 years, which is about 36 champions/year.

The challenge is to catch them all.


Goddamnit.

PSA: the batteries to power your old Gameboy games last for about 15 years. You have about a year left with red/blue until their save files vanish into oblivion.



my cousin played my gameboy and immediately erased my pokemon blue save file with 151 pokemon and like 120 hours of play on it. it felt like a part of me just vanished
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 10:40:23
February 13 2012 10:39 GMT
#3284
On February 13 2012 19:03 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
Just tried a trollish Ryze build : Tear, Cata, Shroud, TRIFORCE. Worked out quite well in fact since you spam spells and have time to cast autos inbetween (QE auto QW auto QR auto ...). Funny. Triforce just works on anybody >.>


And then upgrade your tear to manamune :>

I'm pretty sure that AA is still more cost effective. Wait. I don't know anymore.

HYBRID RYZE INCOMING.
The legend of Darien lives on
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
February 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#3285
roa roa roa roa triforce atma's

just sayin
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#3286
On February 13 2012 19:55 turdburgler wrote:
roa roa roa roa triforce atma's

just sayin

Lich bane would be better in that case :p
The legend of Darien lives on
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
February 13 2012 11:10 GMT
#3287
I wish you couldn't play free rotation champions in ranked games.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 13 2012 11:44 GMT
#3288
On February 13 2012 20:10 Zhiroo wrote:
I wish you couldn't play free rotation champions in ranked games.

Shikyo thread.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
February 13 2012 11:58 GMT
#3289
On February 13 2012 20:44 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 20:10 Zhiroo wrote:
I wish you couldn't play free rotation champions in ranked games.

Shikyo thread.


Not a QQ.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
February 13 2012 12:05 GMT
#3290
On February 13 2012 19:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:03 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
Just tried a trollish Ryze build : Tear, Cata, Shroud, TRIFORCE. Worked out quite well in fact since you spam spells and have time to cast autos inbetween (QE auto QW auto QR auto ...). Funny. Triforce just works on anybody >.>


And then upgrade your tear to manamune :>

I'm pretty sure that AA is still more cost effective. Wait. I don't know anymore.

HYBRID RYZE INCOMING.


Manamune for late game tower pushing powaz! He ain't got AS, AP nor the AD so he is forever stuck doing crap damage to towers if you build like everyone builds him.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 12:11:51
February 13 2012 12:10 GMT
#3291
Eh, AP is added to autoattack damage to towers, so Archangels Staff still edges out Manamune for the fringe benefit AP brings to his spells (especially lategame when, despite their weak ratios, they're being spammed out/bouncing continously).

Damage with autoattacks to a turret or an inhibitor is based on your base attack damage plus, either your bonus attack damage, or 40% of your ability power, whichever is higher.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 12:26:41
February 13 2012 12:25 GMT
#3292
On February 13 2012 19:55 turdburgler wrote:
roa roa roa roa triforce atma's

just sayin


Indirect double Shikyo:

Cata Cata Banshees Banshees FH #1 Ryze build.

(the real one, not the thread)


Edit: For real content, AA is completey fine on Ryze. By the time you usually get it (hint: last item) you're sitting on mana from Banshees, FH, stacked Tears. You just get SO much AP from it that you will definitly notice the damage increase on your spells.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
February 13 2012 12:45 GMT
#3293
On February 13 2012 18:18 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:52 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 17:38 sob3k wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:48 Treadmill wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:42 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
On February 13 2012 16:36 Treadmill wrote:
One thing I know is Teemo shrooms do the base damage of the level you had in your ult when you placed them, not when they go off. BUT, I believe, they do bonus damage based on the AP you have when they go off, rather than when you placed them. Looked this up when I was having fun with AP Teemo. If you haven't tried it you need to, by the way.


teemo shrooms level up now as you level up your ulti

(http://www.lol-patch.com/teemo.html)

Whoa hey thanks. Now I need to start playing AP teemo again. 1000 damage shrooms are just too funny.


I decided to go AP Teemo a few games ago in a normal and just randomly someone on their team also went AP Teemo...I crushed top and then dueled their teemo with hundreds of shrooms in their jungle for 40 minutes and refused to end the game. Nobody could dislodge me from my mushroom fortress and they didnt dare to approach the sacred red buff after a while. Needless to say I was a finer AP Teemo than theirs...ended the game 26-6 or something, lots of fun. Got about 8 kills just from random shrooms.

On February 13 2012 17:35 Lorken wrote:
I don't know if it's just me, but do you guys think Ziggs' circle of like 15 bombs that slow you down stays there too long?


its 10 seconds...which is pretty ridiculous, skill is on a 16 second CD though at all levels which is very long and unforgiving if you place them wrong. I reallllly am thinking of buying Ziggs, he looks like alot of fun with a high skillcap. But I dont know if i can make myself spend 6300 after buying viktor and xerath ....I still only have 3 runepages.


And I already have so many mids that I play: Kassadin/LeBlanc/Viktor/Xerath/Sion/Ryze/Morgana/Lux/Veigar/TF/Zilean

I already feel like I can counterpick pretty much any mid with just LB/Vik/Xerath, who are my favorites.

Anyone have any Ziggs experience? Is he as fun as he looks?


And then they buy an oracles and don't walk through bushes and you cry.

Shut up. Just... shut up. AP Teemo is a beautiful butterfly. It will fly free and roam the fields and meadows despite your naysaying and your talk of this oracles nonsense. Power of the god damn mushrooms, man. Feel the love.


If reading this post please make sure to play this in the background: AP Teemo music
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
February 13 2012 14:37 GMT
#3294
On February 13 2012 21:25 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:55 turdburgler wrote:
roa roa roa roa triforce atma's

just sayin


Indirect double Shikyo:

Cata Cata Banshees Banshees FH #1 Ryze build.


For what it's worth, as a Ryze-main player who actually played Dom seriously, that is actually a viable variation of a build I use for Ryze top (of cos the other veil tho). Although I usually change the 4th cata to wota. 4th cata perhaps only if I need to tank for team AND need that bit of extra tankiness to survive a huge initial burst. Which is almost never.


Edit: For real content, AA is completey fine on Ryze. By the time you usually get it (hint: last item) you're sitting on mana from Banshees, FH, stacked Tears. You just get SO much AP from it that you will definitly notice the damage increase on your spells.


Again for what it's worth, I want to stamp my approval on this too. Yes, a small part of me dies everytime I see a Ryze player rush AA first. But I also feel that a lot of people are on the other extreme, and underestimate AA staff/benefits of AP on Ryze.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
February 13 2012 14:39 GMT
#3295
On February 13 2012 13:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:39 ManyCookies wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:37 seRapH wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:28 unichan wrote:
sup guys the only one i played is leaf green and that pokemon mystery dungeon shit which was tite

what does this have to do with league of legend

There are 649 pokemon, created over 14 years, which is about 46 pokemon/year.
There are 92 champions, created over 2.5 years, which is about 36 champions/year.

The challenge is to catch them all.


The rate is more like ~25 champions a year, plus the initial 40 release champions.

Also, did Riot program their game in Adobe Flash or something?


Adobe Air


no it's not. The client is in adobe air, i'm pretty sure the game itself is in c++
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
February 13 2012 14:45 GMT
#3296
I'm pretty sure he answered it in this thread http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=1995934 and it's a combination of things.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 13 2012 14:46 GMT
#3297
On February 13 2012 23:37 pschiu wrote:
Show nested quote +

Edit: For real content, AA is completey fine on Ryze. By the time you usually get it (hint: last item) you're sitting on mana from Banshees, FH, stacked Tears. You just get SO much AP from it that you will definitly notice the damage increase on your spells.


Again for what it's worth, I want to stamp my approval on this too. Yes, a small part of me dies everytime I see a Ryze player rush AA first. But I also feel that a lot of people are on the other extreme, and underestimate AA staff/benefits of AP on Ryze.


I'd still get a void staff before.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
February 13 2012 14:49 GMT
#3298
On February 13 2012 23:46 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 23:37 pschiu wrote:

Edit: For real content, AA is completey fine on Ryze. By the time you usually get it (hint: last item) you're sitting on mana from Banshees, FH, stacked Tears. You just get SO much AP from it that you will definitly notice the damage increase on your spells.


Again for what it's worth, I want to stamp my approval on this too. Yes, a small part of me dies everytime I see a Ryze player rush AA first. But I also feel that a lot of people are on the other extreme, and underestimate AA staff/benefits of AP on Ryze.


I'd still get a void staff before.


Yep, and wota. I guess they weren't mentioned cos they didn't give mana. But he did say "last item".
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 13 2012 14:59 GMT
#3299
No, the game is not in adobe air, that would mean its a flash game basically.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 15:27:47
February 13 2012 15:27 GMT
#3300
I can confirm they use the following programs/languages to make LoL:
  • C++
  • ActionScript
  • Adobe Flex/Adobe AIR
  • Flash
  • Java
  • MySQL/NoSQL
  • Erlang
  • Ruby/Perl
  • Python

Art Direction:
  • Maya
  • 3D Max
  • Mudbox
  • ZBrush
  • Adobe CS5
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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