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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
Malderon
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 15:54:19
February 09 2012 15:52 GMT
#2521
Query: What would be a good, cheap champion to jungle with on a level 11 smurf account, using only Tier 1 runes?

Nunu can clear the jungle and stay at high health thanks to consume, though afaik he is out of favour as a jungler atm because he is slow.

Trying Maokai in custom b.c he's free this week. With him I can do a full clear with Regrowth + pot and end up at 200something health without leash, so with leash on blue I might even have enough health left for a gank.

Edit: As for masteries, I'm putting my 11 points in Defense to compensate for the lack of Armor runes.

Thoughts/suggestions?
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 09 2012 15:53 GMT
#2522
Good rule of thumb: If you could jungle properly in the 'old' jungle with a champion, its ok to jungle with it lower lvl in the 'new' jungle.
KCCO!
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
February 09 2012 16:01 GMT
#2523
On February 10 2012 00:52 Malderon wrote:
Query: What would be a good, cheap champion to jungle with on a level 11 smurf account, using only Tier 1 runes?

Nunu can clear the jungle and stay at high health thanks to consume, though afaik he is out of favour as a jungler atm because he is slow.

Trying Maokai in custom b.c he's free this week. With him I can do a full clear with Regrowth + pot and end up at 200something health without leash, so with leash on blue I might even have enough health left for a gank.

Edit: As for masteries, I'm putting my 11 points in Defense to compensate for the lack of Armor runes.

Thoughts/suggestions?

Warwick has really really good sustain but Udyr is only 3150 IP and has insane clear times.

If you don't mind spending the 3150 IP go with Udyr, otherwise I'd go with Warwick.

With Warwick, if you start blue first you can basically buy whatever items you want at the beginning because Hungering Strike plus his passive gives you plenty of life steal for your first clear.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 16:10:28
February 09 2012 16:02 GMT
#2524
go with udyr. udyr with cloth 5 opening is stupidly safe and fast with very little in the way of runes and such.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Cavaman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada12 Posts
February 09 2012 16:03 GMT
#2525
I think the smart casting issue has to do with the little update they did with the 'show smartcast ranges' options change. I turned it on, tried it, then off again, and still have to hold shift during the whole key down-key up process in order for it to actually work. Not sure if the actual option is related but it has been that way for this patch for me at least.
Malderon
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands136 Posts
February 09 2012 16:03 GMT
#2526
Excellent, thanks for the input .

And what about our old bovine pal Alistar?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 09 2012 16:11 GMT
#2527
On February 10 2012 01:03 Malderon wrote:
Excellent, thanks for the input .

And what about our old bovine pal Alistar?

if you're still talking about jungling, he's pretty rune dependant iirc and is actually much more about just roaming around and camping lanes than actually clearing jungle. in other words, he's a very niche jungler who would not be good to learn the basics on, or do well without runes.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 09 2012 16:32 GMT
#2528
Sorry if this has already been posted, but go4lol December finals are on soon. CLG fighting!

Brackets: http://www.esl.eu/eu/lol/west/go4lol/monthly_december2011/rankings/

Stream: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_studio1
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 09 2012 16:40 GMT
#2529
On February 10 2012 01:32 emperorchampion wrote:
Sorry if this has already been posted, but go4lol December finals are on soon. CLG fighting!

Brackets: http://www.esl.eu/eu/lol/west/go4lol/monthly_december2011/rankings/

Stream: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_studio1

Is that a re-run of Kiev that's currently on?
currently rooting for myself.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 09 2012 16:41 GMT
#2530
Rerun of Kiev, yes.

Go4LoL starts in 20 min (from this post).
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 16:45:49
February 09 2012 16:45 GMT
#2531
On February 10 2012 01:41 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rerun of Kiev, yes.

Go4LoL starts in 20 min (from this post).

Thanks, Neo.

Do you guys think they're currently some sleepers to be discovered? Moonie called Kennen months ago and I'm pretty sure we've had discussions about double WotA before it was getting more popular. Anything you see becoming really big in the next couple of weeks-months? Galio, more Ahri, Ziggs?
currently rooting for myself.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 09 2012 16:50 GMT
#2532
On February 10 2012 01:03 Cavaman wrote:
I think the smart casting issue has to do with the little update they did with the 'show smartcast ranges' options change. I turned it on, tried it, then off again, and still have to hold shift during the whole key down-key up process in order for it to actually work. Not sure if the actual option is related but it has been that way for this patch for me at least.


i use ctrl+Q/W/E/R for smartcasting and it works just as before, i tried the range option once but i found it too slow, i rather press Q W E R when i really need a range indicator and then i can still smartcast as usual or just left click.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22060 Posts
February 09 2012 16:52 GMT
#2533
I think its to much to call really. There is a whole host of champions who are good enough to do well in the hands of experianced players but dont get played in tournament games. Any of em could break out any moment.

Personaly if I had to name one it would be Ashe.


(just dont let it be voli, hes all mine!)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 09 2012 16:54 GMT
#2534
On February 10 2012 01:50 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 01:03 Cavaman wrote:
I think the smart casting issue has to do with the little update they did with the 'show smartcast ranges' options change. I turned it on, tried it, then off again, and still have to hold shift during the whole key down-key up process in order for it to actually work. Not sure if the actual option is related but it has been that way for this patch for me at least.


i use ctrl+Q/W/E/R for smartcasting and it works just as before, i tried the range option once but i found it too slow, i rather press Q W E R when i really need a range indicator and then i can still smartcast as usual or just left click.

If someone's already fond of smartcasting in general and has accustomized to having smartcast on Q W E R, I'd suggest trying to bind their normal casts to Shift or Ctrl + Q W E R. It's what I'm doing and it's great for stuff like GP and Cass Ult.
currently rooting for myself.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 09 2012 16:57 GMT
#2535
On February 10 2012 01:54 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 01:50 LaNague wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:03 Cavaman wrote:
I think the smart casting issue has to do with the little update they did with the 'show smartcast ranges' options change. I turned it on, tried it, then off again, and still have to hold shift during the whole key down-key up process in order for it to actually work. Not sure if the actual option is related but it has been that way for this patch for me at least.


i use ctrl+Q/W/E/R for smartcasting and it works just as before, i tried the range option once but i found it too slow, i rather press Q W E R when i really need a range indicator and then i can still smartcast as usual or just left click.

If someone's already fond of smartcasting in general and has accustomized to having smartcast on Q W E R, I'd suggest trying to bind their normal casts to Shift or Ctrl + Q W E R. It's what I'm doing and it's great for stuff like GP and Cass Ult.


yeah that would work too, i just have a keyboard where it makes no difference for my fingers wether i press ctrl or not since i do that with my hand itself.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 09 2012 17:09 GMT
#2536
On February 09 2012 20:58 Xedat wrote:
I need some help deciding when to do what to win games, lets think about this hypothetical situation(s) and what are the best courses of action:

Its lategame, nashor and dragon are down, won't respawn until ~5 minutes, no one has Baron buff. Your team has destroyed the enemies mid inhibitor, all lanes are at the river (not pushed), the all from outer towers are down.
The enemies team would win in a team fight.

Now in my theory you would attack one tower with the whole team, trying not to get caught and let the mid lane push itself until someone has to go mid and then maybe try something 5v4.

What if their poke is better then ours and they can hold us off reasonable well 4v5?
Keep all lanes pushed and then try to get all the objectives? Fake Nashor and let someone backdoor their towers?

Thanks for your input.


If you have a middle inhibitor all your lanes will push because your minions get a buff. The lanes cannot equalize at the river.

Why can you not win a teamfight though? If it's because their comp outscaled yours then you need to try to split them up or force a mistake. If you're down in gold you can try to hang out for objectives, but since all your lanes are pushing it's far easier for them to farm than you so it could be hard to come out ahead in that department as well.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 09 2012 17:25 GMT
#2537
MYM:
Bans: Anivia, Ahri, Galio
Picks: Morg, Irelia, Taric, Sivir, Skarner

CLG.eu:
Bans: Vlad, Rammus, Kass
Picks: Maokai, Corki, GP, Kennen, Soraka
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Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
February 09 2012 17:28 GMT
#2538
On February 10 2012 01:57 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 01:54 Shiv. wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:50 LaNague wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:03 Cavaman wrote:
I think the smart casting issue has to do with the little update they did with the 'show smartcast ranges' options change. I turned it on, tried it, then off again, and still have to hold shift during the whole key down-key up process in order for it to actually work. Not sure if the actual option is related but it has been that way for this patch for me at least.


i use ctrl+Q/W/E/R for smartcasting and it works just as before, i tried the range option once but i found it too slow, i rather press Q W E R when i really need a range indicator and then i can still smartcast as usual or just left click.

If someone's already fond of smartcasting in general and has accustomized to having smartcast on Q W E R, I'd suggest trying to bind their normal casts to Shift or Ctrl + Q W E R. It's what I'm doing and it's great for stuff like GP and Cass Ult.


yeah that would work too, i just have a keyboard where it makes no difference for my fingers wether i press ctrl or not since i do that with my hand itself.


The point of smartcasting is to be as fast as possible and one keypress is always faster than two, even if only from a latency perspective.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 09 2012 17:39 GMT
#2539
On February 10 2012 02:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
MYM:
Bans: Anivia, Ahri, Galio
Picks: Morg, Irelia, Taric, Sivir, Skarner

CLG.eu:
Bans: Vlad, Rammus, Kass
Picks: Maokai, Corki, GP, Kennen, Soraka

Banning Vlad? was his buff that big?

Also, MYM has the stronger champ assortment imo. Sivir and Skarner are just so dominant right now, and Irelia should be able to go even/demolish GP top with no problem.
It's your boy Guzma!
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
February 09 2012 17:40 GMT
#2540
On February 10 2012 02:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
MYM:
Bans: Anivia, Ahri, Galio
Picks: Morg, Irelia, Taric, Sivir, Skarner

CLG.eu:
Bans: Vlad, Rammus, Kass
Picks: Maokai, Corki, GP, Kennen, Soraka


Is this still going on? if so could you post a link?
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