EPT[Patch 1.0.0.133: Ziggs] General Discussion - Page 126
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ihasaKAROT
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r.Evo
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Xedat
Germany358 Posts
Its lategame, nashor and dragon are down, won't respawn until ~5 minutes, no one has Baron buff. Your team has destroyed the enemies mid inhibitor, all lanes are at the river (not pushed), the all from outer towers are down. The enemies team would win in a team fight. Now in my theory you would attack one tower with the whole team, trying not to get caught and let the mid lane push itself until someone has to go mid and then maybe try something 5v4. What if their poke is better then ours and they can hold us off reasonable well 4v5? Keep all lanes pushed and then try to get all the objectives? Fake Nashor and let someone backdoor their towers? Thanks for your input. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
:3 Loco such a qt e: loco going in hard on that ESPORTS razer stuff | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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seRapH
United States9777 Posts
MAKNAE RAPIDSTAR | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On February 09 2012 20:58 Xedat wrote: I need some help deciding when to do what to win games, lets think about this hypothetical situation(s) and what are the best courses of action: Its lategame, nashor and dragon are down, won't respawn until ~5 minutes, no one has Baron buff. Your team has destroyed the enemies mid inhibitor, all lanes are at the river (not pushed), the all from outer towers are down. The enemies team would win in a team fight. Now in my theory you would attack one tower with the whole team, trying not to get caught and let the mid lane push itself until someone has to go mid and then maybe try something 5v4. What if their poke is better then ours and they can hold us off reasonable well 4v5? Keep all lanes pushed and then try to get all the objectives? Fake Nashor and let someone backdoor their towers? Thanks for your input. in this situation where you have mid inhib down then you have great potential for vision, plus lanes are at mid river. best way to press your advantage in this situation is to over-ward and steal buffs. hit the key points in THEIR jungle and make sure they stay warded, while combing as a team and stealing their shit. it depends on your comp. sometimes you have a beefy solotop who's good at escaping and can just push top while the other 4 push bot. you have the whole jungle warded, so top should get away if ganked, and if that happens then bot gets a tower. if you dont feel your team can split then the best thing to do is pick whichever tower is best supported by your minions and try to break it. this involves (in your scenario where the other team is stronger) a lot of pandering, trying to find the best engage, catching someone off guard. there's no clear solution, you just have to find an opening and expose it. in these situations, it's important for your AD to right click on the tower and whittle it down with every minion wave that passes. this is what separates good AD's from bads, the abillity to force down towers. even if a team fight breaks out, try to kill the tower if you can, don't participate in the fight, otherwise if you do the tower is just shooting at your team and yall shouldn't be fighting there anyway so ya. split push if possible, otherwise do a lot of pandering and rely on your ad to carry. | ||
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
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Shiv.
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On February 09 2012 20:58 Xedat wrote: I need some help deciding when to do what to win games, lets think about this hypothetical situation(s) and what are the best courses of action: Its lategame, nashor and dragon are down, won't respawn until ~5 minutes, no one has Baron buff. Your team has destroyed the enemies mid inhibitor, all lanes are at the river (not pushed), the all from outer towers are down. The enemies team would win in a team fight. Now in my theory you would attack one tower with the whole team, trying not to get caught and let the mid lane push itself until someone has to go mid and then maybe try something 5v4. What if their poke is better then ours and they can hold us off reasonable well 4v5? Keep all lanes pushed and then try to get all the objectives? Fake Nashor and let someone backdoor their towers? Thanks for your input. There's a lot of things that play a role when it comes to deciding stuff like that. Basically, your #1 priority at this point should be to get a tower. The question is how you get there, and the answer to that is reliant on your team comp (is split pushing possible, do 4 of you even have great disengage, does the enemy team run a hard engage comp) and theirs. I had this very situation in a game the other day: I was GP and won my top lane by a fair amount, but their bot lane RAPED ours. Mid was even. I was easily able to go top and push while my team went bottom to do the same thing. We did that twice and it netted us the 2nd top turret and the bottom inhib turret. First time, they sent their Renekton top who wasn't able to stop me, which resulted in a top tower and a disengage from our team via Sona+my Ult ult down bottom. Second time, they sent Noc and Renekton top, which made it 3v4 bottom. All the while, mid was pushing, which eventually lead to a favorable situation for us. I think it's important to know your priorities and act accordingly. We were behind in an actual teamfight scenario, so I tried getting objectives while avoiding teamfights. That was possible because of the variables of this very game, if the game had played out ANY differently, things might have panned out the other way around. Sometimes, it's better to steal their jungle and farm lanes, sometimes you want to LOOK for a fight, sometimes setting up an ambush is the way to go. The key factor to winning late game is knowing HOW to reach WHAT you know you need in a given situation. Edit: Madlife new #2 favourite Korean, too shy to look at the camera. Also #2 QT, nothing beats Loco in terms of cuteness. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Am I stupid for not realizing earlier ? | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On February 09 2012 22:37 mr_tolkien wrote: Just realized fp was always blue side in ranked. Am I stupid for not realizing earlier ? TIL. Seriously, that's neat. Thanks for the heads up. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On February 09 2012 21:50 r.Evo wrote: I don't even know how I should write down how he said "Ziggs". <3333333³ zzJiggs or Jiggs. Zhiggs? | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
We should ask Ressshjinald. Seriously, Loco #1. | ||
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Xedat
Germany358 Posts
On February 09 2012 22:37 mr_tolkien wrote: Just realized fp was always blue side in ranked. Am I stupid for not realizing earlier ? "Your Team" and "Enemy Team" in champ select have a hue of the colour you will play as, it is almost impossible too see if you don't know it. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
<3 Edit: Fuck, that looks like a cool ID right there. Edit 2: IMAGINE THE FUN TO BE HAD ON VENT WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO SPEAK TO YOU LOL. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On February 09 2012 18:21 Seuss wrote: I've periodically felt like my smartcasts are off since the patch but it hasn't been consistent. I wrote it off as skill degradation from playing so many coop vs ai games with a friend I recently brought into the fold. do you guys have the new range display on? cause with it you smartcast on key release, without it you cast on key press, its a huge difference. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On February 09 2012 23:53 LaNague wrote: do you guys have the new range display on? cause with it you smartcast on key release, without it you cast on key press, its a huge difference. Also flash! I have both summoners on smart cast (for when i dont use flash) and is shows te range of flash. But that also means he runs to the point where he can flash to the exact position. No more fail flash but often delayed/not instant when you click too far and you die zzz | ||
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