[Patch 1.0.0.133: Ziggs] General Discussion - Page 129
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NSANE.hydra
United States644 Posts
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
edit: that teamfight by CLG O_O | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 10 2012 02:58 Requizen wrote: That's a question I've been meaning to ask as a jungler. When should I start investing in Oracles'? Should I always have one for clearing wards, or only if they're being aggressive about warding? It's a matter of playstyle. You are ceding aggro and possibly kills for better map control. | ||
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
So much aoe there GP kennen and mao all ult that circle of death. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Oh and 5 0 4 Mao doesn't hurt either. wut | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Keep chasing, blow ults on soraka, get triple ulted. Aced. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On February 10 2012 03:03 daemir wrote: MYM should have seen that coming after they failed a shurelias engage. Back off, take dragon, go lanes. Keep chasing, blow ults on soraka, get triple ulted. Aced. Only Skarner ulted far as I could see, too bad that the skarner ult is instrumental in keeping the aoe comp in line. Doesn't help that Taric is starting to lose power. | ||
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rapidash88
United States194 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Has anyone done the mathcraft for early Abyssal? This is not the first time I've seen a fast Abyssal on some AP players. Edit: And it's not like MYM is running double AP where Kennen could really/urgently need the MR. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 10 2012 03:01 NeoIllusions wrote: It's a matter of playstyle. You are ceding aggro and possibly kills for better map control. So would you say it's a good early buy on non-ganking junglers like Shy/GP/etc? | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 10 2012 03:07 Requizen wrote: So would you say it's a good early buy on non-ganking junglers like Shy/GP/etc? Yes. Shy especially, bitch is so fast. Wards don't stand a chance. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On February 10 2012 02:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Vlad was OP before his buffs ever since new masteries came out, people just didn't realize it. Then they buffed Vlad and now he's bat-shit insane OP and everyone realizes it ;d I don't understand where the misconception of "Vlad sucks lategame" came from. Tides of Blood does ridiculous damage, he has ridiculous healing, and is unkillable with Pool/Hourglass, while amplifying the entire team's damage with ult. Where does the idea that Vlad falls off late game come form...? I think he's one of the best scaling APs. Also Vlad outpushes and outtrades everyone once he has Revolver. Incredible lane bully past 1-4... I think it comes from the fact that he is definitively lacking in cc, and has no actual hard cc, meaning his utility drops the longer the game goes on. On the other hand, his cd's are so low, he ends up with crazy sustained damage output, so the lack of cc should really just be a conscious decision of damage/survivability over utility. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On February 10 2012 03:06 NeoIllusions wrote: Abyssal before Cap for FrogKennen. Has anyone done the mathcraft for early Abyssal? This is not the first time I've seen a fast Abyssal on some AP players. Edit: And it's not like MYM is running double AP where Kennen could really/urgently need the MR. There was a post on Ele's blog with some mathcraft on it. It ended up being relatively situational depending on AP Scaling and CDR but Abyssal + Blasting Wand being just a bit cheaper but still offering close power output. So Abyssal lets you get a full item faster, but it tails off compared to the DCap Passive. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Lancer723
United States486 Posts
On February 10 2012 03:06 NeoIllusions wrote: Abyssal before Cap for FrogKennen. Has anyone done the mathcraft for early Abyssal? This is not the first time I've seen a fast Abyssal on some AP players. Edit: And it's not like MYM is running double AP where Kennen could really/urgently need the MR. I forget what game it was, but during Kiev there was an Ahri vs Karthus mid match-up where the Ahri rushed abysal and it worked really well. I'm not sure on the math, but it did allow Ahri to basically kill Karthus at will by dashing around in his defile. I guess the reasoning being something like she needs the AP and Abyssal passive to kill Karthus, but also the MR to stand in his defile long enough to not die. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On February 10 2012 03:10 NeoIllusions wrote: MYM buckfutts CLG's bot lane early on but it doesn't seem to matter. CLGeu team fighting is simply superb. I am constantly surprised how Snoopeh always seems to get out of crazy situations by the skin of his teeth. BASERACE! CLG BARONBUFF TOO GUD. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Base race vs Sivir? Edit: lawlz, I eat crow. | ||
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On February 10 2012 03:12 NeoIllusions wrote: Don't agree with CLGeu's decision here. Base race vs Sivir? Baron too strong I guess. | ||
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
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