EPT[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 7
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:15 ihasaKAROT wrote: I belief the Shaco boxnerf is aimed at not getting 2 buffs at the 2minutemark anymore. Wich is a good thing. But it make trollface roaming AP shaco a lot harder to play.... and that wasn't even waht made him broken >.> | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:17 Craton wrote: I maintain my position that Riven isn't nerfed It was the slighest nerf ever. She'll still out bully everyone on top lane. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:03 ihasaKAROT wrote: So no Viktorbuff... what? And the Vaynenerfs seem kinda odd to me. Its not the movementspeed that gets you killed, its her max W. Still thats untouched... argh... this was discussed to death a while ago and there was a very good post on reddit talking about this. I'll summarize: Vayne's 'w' is NOT the majority of her damage, she gets more damage from her tumble - which they nerfed. And it IS the movement speed that gets you killed, the most common complaint about Vayne isn't that she can kill you 1v1 (since thats the whole point of vayne) but that its really hard to escape from her if you get even a little overextended (which isn't far at all). | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:24 Treadmill wrote: argh... this was discussed to death a while ago and there was a very good post on reddit talking about this. I'll summarize: Vayne's 'w' is NOT the majority of her damage, she gets more damage from her tumble - which they nerfed. And it IS the movement speed that gets you killed, the most common complaint about Vayne isn't that she can kill you 1v1 (since thats the whole point of vayne) but that its really hard to escape from her if you get even a little overextended (which isn't far at all). That reddit post was well addressed. It's not the majority of her damage, but absolutely no champion in the game has a skill that accounts for the majority of their damage. Saying it's not problematic just because of that is an absolutely meaningless statement. What was established that as a steroid that has 100% uptime, it has a disproportionately high gold value in comparison to activate-able steroids that have less than 50% uptime. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:18 wei2coolman wrote: But it make trollface roaming AP shaco a lot harder to play.... and that wasn't even waht made him broken >.> AP shaco is sortof like AP Yi tho. Its fun to play but in the end, the AD variant is just better. The doublebuff was broken, since no other champ ingame could do that. AD shaco is counterable, people are just too afraid it seems. AAAA a shaco gtfooo Or just kill him? | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:29 TheYango wrote: That reddit post was well addressed. It's not the majority of her damage, but absolutely no champion in the game has a skill that accounts for the majority of their damage. Saying it's not problematic just because of that is an absolutely meaningless statement. What was established that as a steroid that has 100% uptime, it has a disproportionately high gold value in comparison to activate-able steroids that have less than 50% uptime. Neh, I guess. Still, nerfing her tumble will have more or less the same effect as nerfing her silver bolts, she'll just have less damage, which is what people complain about at the end of the day. | ||
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HavokTheorem
New Zealand250 Posts
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
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hustling
Korea (South)14 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:34 ihasaKAROT wrote: AP shaco is sortof like AP Yi tho. Its fun to play but in the end, the AD variant is just better. The doublebuff was broken, since no other champ ingame could do that. AD shaco is counterable, people are just too afraid it seems. AAAA a shaco gtfooo Or just kill him? Well, in that sense all Champions are counterable. The idea of Shaco, is that he exposes positioning, and forces lanes to be more passive. I don't think this nerf is going to do too much to regular Shaco players, and he's still going to be a bitch to deal with. As far as I see it, only AP Shaco got nerfed, which as you said is like AP Yi, and probably played just as much as AP Yi. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
 Graves, Vayne, Tyrn, Shaco, Skarner, Riven nerfs all welcome. I play 3 of those champions alot and I welcome some nerfs to some overpowered things. Not that it will stop me from playing them alot still. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:49 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: I recall we had a discussion about how once you got hit by ashe you couldn't run. I don't think it's going to be fun to play against sejuani. On the one hand, if you have flash it might not save you. On the other, if you don't have flash, not even wards will save you since she can flash dash stun you. -newb Then again, her damage didnt look very impressive. In the spotlight ashe did all the damage on the dives... | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:11 Craton wrote: Only thing Viktor needs is Q to come back faster. precisely how I feel, if his Q missile speed were normal I think he'd be quite comparable to swain in power. Maybe better, even. | ||
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Sponge75
England194 Posts
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hustling
Korea (South)14 Posts
On January 17 2012 18:10 Sponge75 wrote: Sejuani looks like she could have good ganks from jungle with dash/slow/biggerslow. Any jungler that can start regrowth, and has any kind of CC is definitely viable. I predict OP. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On January 17 2012 18:18 hustling wrote: Any jungler that can start regrowth, and has any kind of CC is definitely viable. I predict OP. I predict Vollibear 2.0, but with more slow and less damage. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On January 17 2012 17:19 wei2coolman wrote: It was the slighest nerf ever. She'll still out bully everyone on top lane. it's a interesting nerf to me, with her q damage actually being good, you might not be able to save it for getaway as often. but honestly, my whole fear since the announcement of the nerf was that they would touch the passive, and they didn't so power wise I'll bet she will come out about the same. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
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Brockster
Germany82 Posts
Now with the both top contenders nerfed i think its a pretty clean choice that sivir is the go-to first pick carry, for solo q at least. the spell shield is just so stupidly strong both in lane and in teamfights. i m really sad that i didnt pick vlad up already, would really like to play him more now, just tried him out in one free week. i do own jax though, and i m looking forward to his remake, these remakes are always a dice-roll for totally broken or meaningless weak and i think this one tends to the broken side of the dice :D | ||
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