[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 52

On January 20 2012 11:31 Bladeorade wrote:
So I have been playing the new champ in jungle a bunch and I think AP is pretty strong. Her ratios arent the greatest but AP tank is working pretty well.

When I'm rolling kids Deathcap first is a ton of damage, and her ganks are very powerful so its pretty easy to roll kids if you are ganking well. Abyssal and Rylais are good. I dont think I like Zhonyas but Randuins and Frozen Heart are both solid like they are.

I unfortunately feel like she has to start cloth +5 because she clears slowly but after the first clear its not bad. I have been going WQEE E>W>Q. Q into camps then W E is insta clear. She is blue reliant early. But once you get Philo or Dorans its quick. You really do need one or the other. She can burn through mana fast going through jungle.

I have been getting 2 dorans. I haven't tried starting catalyst -> rod seems like it will take forever so I am wary, but extra health and mana couldnt be bad since she seems very mana dependent, W scales off health and everything else is AP so maybe thats something to try.

I don't know how she is top lane but she can probably assist ganks very well though I couldnt see her really dueling people. But I would imagine Cata->Rod would be best top for sustain.

She doesn't seem like a great WotA user but maybe haven't tried it.

I want to try a Nashors/Gunblade/DC/Lichbane type built but you would have to be absolutely trucking kids, so expensive, and I would imagine you would have to be doing so well they are going to surrender at 20.

Anyway she seems decent in jungle, good ganks but kind of slow clears.

/noonecares

On January 20 2012 11:29 r.Evo wrote:


So he will show up with the real day9 apartement next to a guy with a fake one? =D

On January 20 2012 12:05 R04R wrote:
I think this Sejuani guide has some nice insight on how to build her.
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=15220

On January 20 2012 11:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


moonbear is still here with a kawaii as fuck username. ever noticed that king of anime new guy who posts tons of useful stuff? it's moonbear!! unfortunately i have no idea how his name is spelled.

On January 20 2012 12:04 Juddas wrote:
Guys I love Teemo. He is such a fun champ, but no one ever talks about him, and no one seems to pick him. I have been doing a D-ring opening into malady then Nashors then WotA and then some tanky AP (Scepter) and lastly I get an Evil Tome or a situation dependent item. It is such a great feeling to be able to clear lanes from halfway across the map and then have full HP again, or just shroom killing their entire team after you just destroy them

So tell me, why don't people play Teemo more? He is such a dick and I certainly hate playing against him. He can lane anywhere, and can carry, support, or just CC like a boss. I can not tell you how many times I have saved my solo q ally dumbass who was getting raped by their AD carry just by pressing q and getting the hell out of there with my W

On January 20 2012 12:19 r.Evo wrote:


This guy is stupid, don't take that guide seriously.

a) He recommends Rylais and/or FM for health. Those two are the WORST FUCKING ITEMS you can build on someone with so many slows built in.

b) He recommends Madreds BR for damage. Seriously?

c) He uses flat MR for jungling instead of scaling MR.

d) His suggested "core" build is Mercs, Shurelyas, HoG, Aegis (k so far if you opt for a supportive build), GA (!?!?!?!). -> Madreds/Triforce/Atmas.

e) His comments for jungling and teamfighting is like saying "You can do a standard route clear!" and "Go in and use your skills!"


...so, for the love of god, please stop listening to baddies (everyone who thinks FM/Rylais are good on her is bad. Period.) so I get flamed less when I pick her solo top. :S


PS: If I still love her in like 1-2 weeks I might work on a guide for TL, but I'm still having a hard time vs some common solo top champs. >_<

On January 20 2012 12:04 Juddas wrote:
Guys I love Teemo. He is such a fun champ, but no one ever talks about him, and no one seems to pick him. I have been doing a D-ring opening into malady then Nashors then WotA and then some tanky AP (Scepter) and lastly I get an Evil Tome or a situation dependent item. It is such a great feeling to be able to clear lanes from halfway across the map and then have full HP again, or just shroom killing their entire team after you just destroy them

So tell me, why don't people play Teemo more? He is such a dick and I certainly hate playing against him. He can lane anywhere, and can carry, support, or just CC like a boss. I can not tell you how many times I have saved my solo q ally dumbass who was getting raped by their AD carry just by pressing q and getting the hell out of there with my W

On January 20 2012 12:12 r.Evo wrote:


Why would you pick her jungling over Maokai?

2x her cleartime, less blue dependant (can give the 2nd away which should be considered standard atm) and similar gank strength, especially at early levels.

Jungling her is just bad imo since she can't keep up.


Top lane she's pretty baller tho.

On January 20 2012 12:23 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Why does anyone build on hit on someone like kayle? Like full AP bloodrazors, malady, wits end, nashors, ionic spark?

You end up doing less damage overall than a full AD build come late game and I think it's about the same strength mid game.
http://www.leaguecraft.com/builder/Kayle/?items=89,60,70,89,111&runes=45,45,45,45,45,45,45,45,45&masteries=1302400410013030100000000000000000000000000000000&level=18
Compare any kayle you can build on hit, with this.


You also don't have any sustain. The only reason I can think of is if your opponents are all stacking armor because the rest of your team is AD.

On January 20 2012 12:42 Juddas wrote:
But I get it completely for the shrooms, and the spell vamp from the Q has saved me in numerous occasions, most recently today, when a WW was chasing me forever, I would W, run run run run run, when he got close, Q, tank a hit or two, W run run run run, Q, then I would have enough HP from a creep wave or some source somewhere that I could straight up beat him. Don't chase a teemo

On January 20 2012 12:31 R04R wrote:


Which is why I appropriately chose the word insight and not say knows how to build Sejuani. She came out 2 days ago. Nothing is set in stone yet so critiquing with such vulgarity is not going to prove anything. I was going to comment on the GA but I decided to just leave the link there because I can see how GA works with getting in someones face and forcing confusion with GA to cause people to deaggro from you while still continuing to do your job.

I don't like full flat MR either, but a mix of flat MR and scaling MR has its merits when ganking APs early game.

On January 20 2012 12:42 Juddas wrote:
But I get it completely for the shrooms, and the spell vamp from the Q has saved me in numerous occasions, most recently today, when a WW was chasing me forever, I would W, run run run run run, when he got close, Q, tank a hit or two, W run run run run, Q, then I would have enough HP from a creep wave or some source somewhere that I could straight up beat him. Don't chase a teemo

On January 20 2012 12:46 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Why did moonbear have to make a new name? I missed that conversation somewhere. It's a good idea though, you don't want to get smacked for breaking the NDA, etc by accident. Smurf name protects you.

I mean, as far as I know, when I worked at Riot, nobody even knew what teamliquid.net was. Heck, there weren't even that many people who knew much about SC2. (Besides Zileas)