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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 20 2012 00:55 GMT
#1001
So I've had this ahri guide draft (incomplete) in my comp for a couple of weeks now. I haven't posted it because I think I'm terrible at this game and what i say is prolly wrong but it's a pretty big guide detailing many match ups mid. Is anyone interested in a guide of a 1500 player who has played over 80 ranked games with her or should I just wait for someone better to start her thread (why isn't there one yet lol).
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 00:59:43
January 20 2012 00:59 GMT
#1002
On January 20 2012 09:55 Cloud wrote:
So I've had this ahri guide draft (incomplete) in my comp for a couple of weeks now. I haven't posted it because I think I'm terrible at this game and what i say is prolly wrong but it's a pretty big guide detailing many match ups mid. Is anyone interested in a guide of a 1500 player who has played over 80 ranked games with her or should I just wait for someone better to start her thread (why isn't there one yet lol).


Well, if you're willing to monitor/update your thread you can just post your info/thoughts and update it as 'better' players criticize certain aspects.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 20 2012 01:16 GMT
#1003
On January 20 2012 09:05 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 08:53 turdburgler wrote:
the whole point of korean pro houses was never the hours involved. it was how you practice not how long. current lol pros put in 8 hours of pointless solo queue shit, and even then just troll about and dont work on mechanics. they might aswell not practice at all

Its hyperbole like this that makes these kind of conversations so heated. Is their practice 100% efficient, probably not. Is their practice 0% efficient, definitely no. Some players practice really well.

And we could also get into the whole 'korean practice method is inefficient' especially for a game that IS new and so depends more on intelligent and creative play than refined mechanics. But frankly this whole discussion is rather tiresome so lets not.


well do so then. my comment may be hyperbole but its true 90% of the time. if you want to say the korean method isnt good either thats fine.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 20 2012 01:24 GMT
#1004
Day9 just announced Riot is gonna participate in the afterhours gaming league
He will also be in State of the League for this.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 20 2012 01:26 GMT
#1005
this is awesome. love that guy. well who doesnt
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 01:31:49
January 20 2012 01:30 GMT
#1006
On January 20 2012 09:55 Cloud wrote:
So I've had this ahri guide draft (incomplete) in my comp for a couple of weeks now. I haven't posted it because I think I'm terrible at this game and what i say is prolly wrong but it's a pretty big guide detailing many match ups mid. Is anyone interested in a guide of a 1500 player who has played over 80 ranked games with her or should I just wait for someone better to start her thread (why isn't there one yet lol).


If its a good read and well structured then post it. Don't be afraid of stating a few things that might or might not be popular or even correct. This is a forum after all . I also honestly think that the basic knowledge you need to write a champion guide is not something only 2k+ players have. They tend to know alot of matchup details we don't but that often doesn't show in a champion guide at all anyway.

(sry for double post!)
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 20 2012 01:41 GMT
#1007
Off topic but...where did moonbear go? :O
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 01:49:40
January 20 2012 01:43 GMT
#1008
On January 20 2012 10:41 Ryuu314 wrote:
Off topic but...where did moonbear go? :O

Moonbear's been posting, just not as Moonbear

On January 20 2012 10:30 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 09:55 Cloud wrote:
So I've had this ahri guide draft (incomplete) in my comp for a couple of weeks now. I haven't posted it because I think I'm terrible at this game and what i say is prolly wrong but it's a pretty big guide detailing many match ups mid. Is anyone interested in a guide of a 1500 player who has played over 80 ranked games with her or should I just wait for someone better to start her thread (why isn't there one yet lol).


If its a good read and well structured then post it. Don't be afraid of stating a few things that might or might not be popular or even correct. This is a forum after all . I also honestly think that the basic knowledge you need to write a champion guide is not something only 2k+ players have. They tend to know alot of matchup details we don't but that often doesn't show in a champion guide at all anyway.

(sry for double post!)

I think matchup details is the most valuable part of a guide. Even in lengthy guides the only information I really get out of it is basic stuff like R>Q>W>E, start boots 3 pot, and build these items which I can pretty much find on a mobafire guide. Runes and situational item builds I can generally figure out for myself. But how to play each matchup is something you learn only after many games, and it's one of the most important things.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
January 20 2012 02:14 GMT
#1009
Is it just me or is it impossible to find the tribunal on the LoL homepage.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 20 2012 02:17 GMT
#1010
On January 20 2012 09:04 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 08:53 turdburgler wrote:
the whole point of korean pro houses was never the hours involved. it was how you practice not how long. current lol pros put in 8 hours of pointless solo queue shit, and even then just troll about and dont work on mechanics. they might aswell not practice at all


I think that this is pretty wrong. Chauster used solo queue to practice AP carry while jiji used it to practice AD carry when those two were considering swapping up roles. HotshotGG used solo queue to expand his champion pool. Chaox uses it to test out duo bots with Xpecial. TOO and saintvicious try out new and weird junglers.

The NA teams scrim too. Probably just as much as the Korean teams who have team houses scrim. It's been discussed to death on these forums so I don't wanna talk much about it again but I really don't think that solo queue is "pointless." The pro NA players who primarily play solo queue are a hell of a lot better at this game now than they were a year ago. And like I said in an earlier post, the only thing that the Korean teams do that the NA/EU teams don't do is review their replays which I do think will help them but I don't think it'll give them a huge edge over the NA/EU teams.

There's a reason why all of the Korean and Chinese teams still play solo queue on the NA server and it isn't because it's fun.

This isn't StarCraft. Team houses were so helpful in Brood War because you had a wide range of practice partners who were available every day. You don't have practice partners in a game like LoL.

Until teams with teamhouses start having inhouse B-teams, I'll mostly agree with this. I think if one team puts together a B-team of decently coordinated players, I think itll start showing pretty fast when they're able to do coordinated inhouse practice/analysis and nobody else has the manpower to.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
January 20 2012 02:20 GMT
#1011
On January 20 2012 11:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Is it just me or is it impossible to find the tribunal on the LoL homepage.

It is down the bottom of the page under community.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 20 2012 02:27 GMT
#1012
On January 20 2012 09:28 r.Evo wrote:
PPS: Is it "organisation" or "organization"? =P


Depends on which country you are from. Uk English is organisation. Us English is organization.

Stupid language.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 02:29:13
January 20 2012 02:28 GMT
#1013
so after playing about 30 games in the last few days where 90% of the time i atleast beat my counterpart if not outright carry, i think i understand the people who say trondomere or feed. whats the point of talking to your retarded team if they pick ad carry and then cant last hit. play gang plank and never use his ult at 4v4s at dragon

these people who its easy to hate on because their dicks, they were probably like you before but the stupidity of 90% of lol players has changed them.

User was temp banned for this post.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 20 2012 02:29 GMT
#1014
On January 20 2012 10:24 RogerX wrote:
Day9 just announced Riot is gonna participate in the afterhours gaming league
He will also be in State of the League for this.


So he will show up with the real day9 apartement next to a guy with a fake one? =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
January 20 2012 02:31 GMT
#1015
So I have been playing the new champ in jungle a bunch and I think AP is pretty strong. Her ratios arent the greatest but AP tank is working pretty well.

When I'm rolling kids Deathcap first is a ton of damage, and her ganks are very powerful so its pretty easy to roll kids if you are ganking well. Abyssal and Rylais are good. I dont think I like Zhonyas but Randuins and Frozen Heart are both solid like they are.

I unfortunately feel like she has to start cloth +5 because she clears slowly but after the first clear its not bad. I have been going WQEE E>W>Q. Q into camps then W E is insta clear. She is blue reliant early. But once you get Philo or Dorans its quick. You really do need one or the other. She can burn through mana fast going through jungle.

I have been getting 2 dorans. I haven't tried starting catalyst -> rod seems like it will take forever so I am wary, but extra health and mana couldnt be bad since she seems very mana dependent, W scales off health and everything else is AP so maybe thats something to try.

I don't know how she is top lane but she can probably assist ganks very well though I couldnt see her really dueling people. But I would imagine Cata->Rod would be best top for sustain.

She doesn't seem like a great WotA user but maybe haven't tried it.

I want to try a Nashors/Gunblade/DC/Lichbane type built but you would have to be absolutely trucking kids, so expensive, and I would imagine you would have to be doing so well they are going to surrender at 20.

Anyway she seems decent in jungle, good ganks but kind of slow clears.

/noonecares
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 20 2012 02:49 GMT
#1016
On January 20 2012 10:41 Ryuu314 wrote:
Off topic but...where did moonbear go? :O


moonbear is still here with a kawaii as fuck username. ever noticed that king of anime new guy who posts tons of useful stuff? it's moonbear!! unfortunately i have no idea how his name is spelled.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
January 20 2012 02:51 GMT
#1017
so why do so many people on NA hate on rumble? ive been playing him recently and he feel likes a solid tanky ap champ with alot of damage cc and that ult is just so strong when chasing. dunno just my 2 cents i guess but ive been getting alot of hate for playing him even when doing well
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 20 2012 02:53 GMT
#1018
On January 20 2012 11:51 Kyhron wrote:
so why do so many people on NA hate on rumble? ive been playing him recently and he feel likes a solid tanky ap champ with alot of damage cc and that ult is just so strong when chasing. dunno just my 2 cents i guess but ive been getting alot of hate for playing him even when doing well


wat. He's generally accepted as one of the biggest assholes of top lane, and a massive annoyance to lane against, not to mention one of the highest sustained aoe damage kits of all time. Honestly, it's i think it's a blessing no1 plays that guy.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 20 2012 02:55 GMT
#1019
On January 20 2012 09:48 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 09:15 superstartran wrote:
She got nerfed big time so her ball doesn't blow kids up instantly.

The range nerfs hurt more than anything


i thought they reverted that?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 20 2012 02:56 GMT
#1020
On January 20 2012 11:53 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 11:51 Kyhron wrote:
so why do so many people on NA hate on rumble? ive been playing him recently and he feel likes a solid tanky ap champ with alot of damage cc and that ult is just so strong when chasing. dunno just my 2 cents i guess but ive been getting alot of hate for playing him even when doing well


wat. He's generally accepted as one of the biggest assholes of top lane, and a massive annoyance to lane against, not to mention one of the highest sustained aoe damage kits of all time. Honestly, it's i think it's a blessing no1 plays that guy.


Rumble, almost a bigger asshole than Yorick lol.
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